Men are such fools.

[jemgumby]

I'll take my reality over yours any day.

Just remember that people who are right are usually in the minority. It takes guts to stand up for what you believe in and be different. Hey you live in your reality and I will live in mine. Your reality is just because I said men should be accountable for their actions equals me HATING men.....wow very intelligent indeed!!!!

 

[goofyernmost]

Duh men ARE USUALLY attracted so someone younger....

If this thread has proven nothing else it proves how ironic people of any age are. Younger women for the most part are verbally and physically repulsed by older men. Older women think of older men as fools. And have the nerve to point fingers at the men for being foolish and attracted to younger women. We all have aging problems, men and women. We all end up looking like Rand McNally road maps and yet only the men are fools.

I don't suppose any woman of advanced years, was ever attracted to a younger man and for the same reasons that the older man is attracted to a younger woman. It is to hang on to youth.

I hear it all the time, it's like I'm not even in the room. I hear woman talk about how repulsed they are by older men. That's young women and older women...it is universal. But men are the slim.

My years have taught me that woman are equally, if not more, shallow then men are. I have never heard a man say "ewww" when looking at an older woman but, I have heard a lot of woman say it.

Speaking for older men everywhere. We are very aware of how we look now. We are also aware that if we don't have money we also don't have passion. We have cultivated our personalities, senses of humor and life experiences through-out the years and yet they have absolutely no bearing on any given relationship. If we are not physically attractive, which becomes almost impossible as we age, then we are disgusting. We are disgusting if we compliment a woman on her looks. If a young man did that there would surely be an element of flattery recognized in the statement. If he is old, he is disgusting.

Apparently the very thing that women criticize men for...only looking for the physical attributes...is a highly popular pastime for women as well. I guess that makes both sexes shallow and disgusting doesn't it. Since we get looked down on if we attempt a relationship with an older woman as well as a younger woman...we might just as well go for the prize. That's what women do, why can't we?

Oh yea, I forget...it's because men are fools.

 

[LuvCuteBoys]

Just remember that people who are right are usually in the minority. It takes guts to stand up for what you believe in and be different. Hey you live in your reality and I will live in mine. Your reality is just because I said men should be accountable for their actions equals me HATING men.....wow very intelligent indeed!!!!

Hang on to that martyrdom. I'm sure it will come in very handy someday.

 

[jemgumby]

No one made a statement about your virginity nor your life but rather your shortsighted attempt to justify why two people who are legal adults cannot fall in love and your rather crass judgmental statements about a situation that you know close to nothing about. You do not welcome debate because to debate would mean to bring intelligent statements that are not only valid but do not contain the adolescent squealing of "ewww". If you would want a debate, then I would suggest at least bringing some decorum and not bring in aspects that do not make any sense, for example the fact that you were a virgin when you married.

The reason why I mentioned that was because grumpy pirate said that men and women can have something in common not just sex as in trying to tell me that like I didn't know that. Grumpy pirate was implying that older men could be interested in a younger woman not just simply on a physical attraction. I was reiterating that of course they can since I had many relationships before I married my husband that did involve sex. That's why I said that. I will say "eewwww" when I think of me at my age having sex with a man twice my age. It does gross me out. When I think of my husband growing older it does NOT gross me out of course. True love is more than that. Heck, his hair has thinned and of course we are not as skinny as on our wedding day but since our relationship was not based on a total SEXUAL attraction our relationship can withstand that and hopefully we will grow old together and be happily ever after!

 

[jemgumby]

Hang on to that martyrdom. I'm sure it will come in very handy someday.

Thanks I will!

 

[Tink888]

So there you go you admitted the truth that older men do lust after younger woman, which is my point. It is DISGUSTING. My friend's husband (who she was married to for 17 years) left her a couple of years ago for a girl in her 20's. This was a little flouzie at work (who was married) that he had the affair with. She was 17 years younger than him and everyone that knew of the situation told my friend that the little harlot looked like a YOUNG version of my friend. He laughingly referred to her as his "mulligan." If you people are going to deny the trend of husbands leaving their wives for women half their age then none of you live in reality. Also for all you female posters who are in your 40's and enjoy dating younger men enjoy it while you can cause in about 10 years all the men your age are gonna want the 20 year olds and all the men younger than you are more than likely not gonna wanna be with an older lady. My point is if we hold men accountable for their actions then none of this would be a problem. It should NOT be acceptable for older men to lust after younger women just as it should not be acceptable for a younger woman to marry an older man just for his money. I remember when I was 17 or so how older men would flirt with me in front of their wives and I was really embarrassed and felt so bad for their wives. Their wives didn't seem surprised at all by their husband's behavior. That is SAD!!! Yes men are more visual but that doesn't excuse their disgusting behavior. They should learn to control themselves but how can they learn that when we as a society just expect that from them?

What is your issue with men? It doesn't sound like you like them very much as a species.

And if older men, all men, are nothing more than lustful perverts who are disgusting and need to control their behavior, then what are your thoughts on women (not just younger women) but women who cheat on their husbands because that goes on too and we are all as individuals responsible for our own behavior.

I'm not trying to be rude but you, from your posts, from your standpoint, you seem to think it all boils down to sex and it doesn't. Sex is ONE part of a relationship. ONE PART.

I don't understand how you, if you yourself had a relationship that wasn't based on sex, have such a hard time understanding that other people's relationships aren't only based on sex as well.

Some men (young & old) do lousy no-good things. NOT ALL. Some women (young & old) do lousy no-good things. NOT ALL. How do you know that the older man with a younger woman didn't have a wife his own age who was unfaithful to him? You don't. Yet in your eyes, he's automatically a pig? Right? That's a very sheltered and judgmental way to view things.

 

[allison443]

Actually LAST YEAR when it started, it was DH's superiors-all men , who had attended the party-(we didnt)-who were talking nonstop about his too young girlfriend.

So is it the same young girlfriend that he's been with for a year? Eh, there are many same-age couples who don't last a year together, some even here on the Dis...

 

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

The reason why I mentioned that was because grumpy pirate said that men and women can have something in common not just sex as in trying to tell me that like I didn't know that. Grumpy pirate was implying that older men could be interested in a younger woman not just simply on a physical attraction. I was reiterating that of course they can since I had many relationships before I married my husband that did involve sex. That's why I said that. I will say "eewwww" when I think of me at my age having sex with a man twice my age. It does gross me out. When I think of my husband growing older it does NOT gross me out of course. True love is more than that. Heck, his hair has thinned and of course we are not as skinny as on our wedding day but since our relationship was not based on a total SEXUAL attraction our relationship can withstand that and hopefully we will grow old together and be happily ever after!

please do not reference me, and twist my posts to your so obvious issues with age.

because that is really the heart of the matter. You seem to have some sort of problem with the idea that couples may vary in age.

one thing I have learned in life is that karma can bite you when you are not looking.

perhaps the NEW-NEW rule would help you?

 

[LilBlackSheep]

If you people are going to deny the trend of husbands leaving their wives for women half their age then none of you live in reality.

So, are you prepared for the day your husband's gonna leave you for a younger woman? Or is it that he HAS already and that's why you're so bitter?

Also for all you female posters who are in your 40's and enjoy dating younger men enjoy it while you can cause in about 10 years all the men your age are gonna want the 20 year olds and all the men younger than you are more than likely not gonna wanna be with an older lady.

My point is if we hold men accountable for their actions then none of this would be a problem. It should NOT be acceptable for older men to lust after younger women just as it should not be acceptable for a younger woman to marry an older man just for his money.

Well, you are younger than your husband, does that make him a disgusting person because he lusts after you?

I remember when I was 17 or so how older men would flirt with me in front of their wives and I was really embarrassed and felt so bad for their wives. Their wives didn't seem surprised at all by their husband's behavior. That is SAD!!! Yes men are more visual but that doesn't excuse their disgusting behavior. They should learn to control themselves but how can they learn that when we as a society just expect that from them?

Ah, a do as society expects of us person are ya?

 

[LilBlackSheep]

If I am half his age then again eeewwwww (35 year old and 70 year old having sex)

Ah, then you would have married him for his money then.

 

[Boxley]

The reason why I mentioned that was because grumpy pirate said that men and women can have something in common not just sex as in trying to tell me that like I didn't know that. Grumpy pirate was implying that older men could be interested in a younger woman not just simply on a physical attraction. I was reiterating that of course they can since I had many relationships before I married my husband that did involve sex. That's why I said that. I will say "eewwww" when I think of me at my age having sex with a man twice my age. It does gross me out. When I think of my husband growing older it does NOT gross me out of course. True love is more than that. Heck, his hair has thinned and of course we are not as skinny as on our wedding day but since our relationship was not based on a total SEXUAL attraction our relationship can withstand that and hopefully we will grow old together and be happily ever after!

So do you know a lot of older men? Some men (and women) have an attraction to a person not just on a physical level but also intellectually regardless of age. In fact, I think you are basing your arguments either on your own personal history and vague assumptions despite the various examples of happy couples who love each other, despite age gaps. As you have said that true love is based more then that, then you soon will have to realize that some people have found "true love" even though one member is older/younger then the other. No one has made the love you and your husband share a dreadful thing and yet it appears that you alone have made others relationships, based on your own assumptions, not as valid as yours. You may not like the idea of someone your age having sex with another person who is older, but then again there are some who do not mind the other person's body and in fact love that body.

 

[Tink888]

The reason why I mentioned that was because grumpy pirate said that men and women can have something in common not just sex as in trying to tell me that like I didn't know that. Grumpy pirate was implying that older men could be interested in a younger woman not just simply on a physical attraction. I was reiterating that of course they can since I had many relationships before I married my husband that did involve sex. That's why I said that. I will say "eewwww" when I think of me at my age having sex with a man twice my age. It does gross me out. When I think of my husband growing older it does NOT gross me out of course. True love is more than that. Heck, his hair has thinned and of course we are not as skinny as on our wedding day but since our relationship was not based on a total SEXUAL attraction our relationship can withstand that and hopefully we will grow old together and be happily ever after!

Yep, and that is EXACTLY what most of the people on this board have been trying to tell you but you are being hypocritical because you fail to understand that no matter what age people are, no matter what the age between two consenting adults, everyone is looking for, hoping, for the same thing.

You judge, criticize and write off the relationships of others because they don't fit into the box of your relationship. And again, no one has any clue about another person's relationship unless they are in it. So while dating an older (or younger) person may not be for you, don't make judgments of relationships you know nothing about.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

Oh and I never said that an older person and younger person could not have things in common. One of my best friends was old enough to be my mother!!! I personally have friends who are older in their mid 40's and adore our friendships. My point was that when an older man is attracted to a much younger woman it is not for her intellect or personality. It is for one thing and that would be sex.....That is the plain truth. That is the bottom line. Sorry no other way to say it but it's the truth!!!![/QUOTE]

Not for nothing but you have a very limited knowledge of what men want considering that your dh was your only boyfriend etc. How on earth do you know what all men want? Do you think they are all wild animals waiting to rut the first thing that flashes their way?

 

[LuvCuteBoys]

^^ While the sweet, innocent, doe-eyed girl blushes and bats her eyelashes....

 

[Mouse House Mama]

Just remember that people who are right are usually in the minority. It takes guts to stand up for what you believe in and be different. Hey you live in your reality and I will live in mine. Your reality is just because I said men should be accountable for their actions equals me HATING men.....wow very intelligent indeed!!!!

What ACTIONS do they need to be held responsible for? Liking an attractive woman? Wanting to have sex with a grown woman who is attractive to them? Is that some sort of law? Wanting to date a young woman who might be more fun and have more energy than someone their own age? What exactly are they accountable for? Wanting to enjoy life?

 

[Tink888]

Oh and I never said that an older person and younger person could not have things in common. One of my best friends was old enough to be my mother!!! I personally have friends who are older in their mid 40's and adore our friendships. My point was that when an older man is attracted to a much younger woman it is not for her intellect or personality. It is for one thing and that would be sex.....That is the plain truth. That is the bottom line. Sorry no other way to say it but it's the truth!!!![/QUOTE]

Not for nothing but you have a very limited knowledge of what men what considering that your dh was your only boyfriend etc. How on earth do you know what all men want? Do you think they are all wild animals waiting to rut the first thing that flashes their way?

Apparently she does. The little buggers need to be contained and controlled because they are running rampant. Hurry and look out your window, you may catch a few of them doing unspeakable things out in the street!!

 

[LuvCuteBoys]

What ACTIONS do they need to be held responsible for? Liking an attractive woman? Wanting to have sex with a grown woman who is attractive to them? Is that some sort of law? Wanting to date a young woman who might be more fun and have more energy than someone their own age? What exactly are they accountable for? Wanting to enjoy life?

That was in response to me asking her why she hated men after posting this story (because it's only the men who need to be held responsible... the "flouzie", apparently, did nothing wrong):

So there you go you admitted the truth that older men do lust after younger woman, which is my point. It is DISGUSTING. My friend's husband (who she was married to for 17 years) left her a couple of years ago for a girl in her 20's. This was a little flouzie at work (who was married) that he had the affair with. She was 17 years younger than him and everyone that knew of the situation told my friend that the little harlot looked like a YOUNG version of my friend. He laughingly referred to her as his "mulligan." If you people are going to deny the trend of husbands leaving their wives for women half their age then none of you live in reality. Also for all you female posters who are in your 40's and enjoy dating younger men enjoy it while you can cause in about 10 years all the men your age are gonna want the 20 year olds and all the men younger than you are more than likely not gonna wanna be with an older lady. My point is if we hold men accountable for their actions then none of this would be a problem. It should NOT be acceptable for older men to lust after younger women just as it should not be acceptable for a younger woman to marry an older man just for his money. I remember when I was 17 or so how older men would flirt with me in front of their wives and I was really embarrassed and felt so bad for their wives. Their wives didn't seem surprised at all by their husband's behavior. That is SAD!!! Yes men are more visual but that doesn't excuse their disgusting behavior. They should learn to control themselves but how can they learn that when we as a society just expect that from them?

 

[jemgumby]

So do you know a lot of older men? Some men (and women) have an attraction to a person not just on a physical level but also intellectually regardless of age. In fact, I think you are basing your arguments either on your own personal history and vague assumptions despite the various examples of happy couples who love each other, despite age gaps. As you have said that true love is based more then that, then you soon will have to realize that some people have found "true love" even though one member is older/younger then the other. No one has made the love you and your husband share a dreadful thing and yet it appears that you alone have made others relationships, based on your own assumptions, not as valid as yours. You may not like the idea of someone your age having sex with another person who is older, but then again there are some who do not mind the other person's body and in fact love that body.

Of course I know alot of older men. How would I not? The world is full of them. I can't tell you how many times OLDER men have hit on me and it was gross. My old boss (as in a long time ago not exactly that he was old) who was married behaved VERY inappropriate with me. He should not have said the things he said. Yes I was half his age. I have been out in public and have had dirty old men try to hit me. It is gross. If men viewed women with respect then they would think this is someone's daughter, sister, etc. If that was the case then there would be no porn, prostitutes, strippers, etc. I am not saying ALL men but I think ALOT of men just view women as sexual objects and that if they have a young hottie on their arm it is like their trophy. Hence the term "trophy wife". Now also I never said that any relationship in which there was an age difference was wrong or just based solely on sex. I am saying that the majority of times a much older man looks at a much younger woman it is for physical attraction.

 

[LuvCuteBoys]

Please don't have any boys.

 

[jemgumby]

That was in response to me asking her why she hated men after posting this story (because it's only the men who need to be held responsible... the "flouzie", apparently, did nothing wrong):

Well if I didn't think she had NOT done anything wrong I probably would not have called her a flouzie......