McKinney Texas Pool Party

[AddictedtoDoleWhip]

What is everyones opinion on this issue?

 

[EMom]

When the story broke, I thought, "Something tells me there is going to be a LOT more to this story than is being reported and we're being fed a sensationalist load of BS intended to elicit a certain reaction from the public. The media will not let the facts get in the way of a good story." And I was right. Not because I'm a psychic, but because the media has become SO incredibly predictable.

 

[NewRVLady]

was waiting for this to get here
(and I guess this thread will be closed before too long)

The video I saw was filmed AFTER the incident-where the cop went after the girl with braids and bikini-just a bystander-BUT all of them refusing to leave the area after warned repeatedly
I think a LOT happened before THAT incident-wonder if any filmed?
Mostly kids climbing the walls to get to Subdivision pool-130 showing up uninvited

This is supposedly one of the original incidents-
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...&mid=D29563434AE29B7633B5D29563434AE29B7633B5

 

[AddictedtoDoleWhip]

The cop was to rough on the girl though, in my opinion, she wasn't a threat, the only thing she did that made the cop get all angry is that she talked back to him. That gives him no right to be that rough, he was twice her size and she repeatedly asked him to get off of her because he was hurting her and to call her Mom. Also chasing teenagers with a gun was not okay too.
There is a video of two ladies fighting with another woman, and the group of teens were trying to break up that fight. There is a video of that fight, and there is a video of the woman who was being attacked by the two ladies explaining they were saying inappropriate things to them.

 

[EMom]

Just go online and read the accounts (some by Black residents of the subdivision) of what happened that day. They differ wildly from media reports. Someone on Yahoo joked that they were so tired of the biased reporting and that it would be fair play for a huge crowd of uninvited people to show up at the Yahoo CEO's home and decide THAT pool was a fine place to have a loud party. When asked/told to leave because it is private property, refuse. I wonder if that would go over well?

If you want to show the video and debate whether the policeman was justified, then be honest about EVERYTHING leading up to the event. Put it in proper context. But when you feed me a tiny portion of a story in an attempt to make me form a certain opinion and then I discover you withheld a great deal of pertinent information, it makes everything you reported suspect. Are there NO reputable schools of journalism any longer?

 

[AddictedtoDoleWhip]

Yes, you are right there are multiple reports, and they do differ but I am not talking about the media reports. Should they have been a obnoxious? No. But just as there are reports from residents of the subdivision, there is to much of a difference between the two stories so do we really know who is being truthful?

There was no video of the teenagers trying to "jump the fence" or refusing to leave. The videos we have are of two GROWN woman who are probably in their 40s fighting a 19 year old girl, and the teenagers trying to break it up [which prompted the police being called.]

Also, if the teenagers were trying to break into a pool and didn't belong there, there were many of them who were quick to help the police in the first place. But my opinion still stands, the rough behavior of that police officer was unnecessary.

 

[mr.bungle]

What is everyones opinion on this issue?

Well, the pool parties I attended in Plano were at little better at the time but I always had a good time at the McKinney pool parties I went to. Haven't lived in Texas for a few year now though.

 

[georgina]

Yes, you are right there are multiple reports, and they do differ but I am not talking about the media reports. Should they have been a obnoxious? No. But just as there are reports from residents of the subdivision, there is to much of a difference between the two stories so do we really know who is being truthful?

There was no video of the teenagers trying to "jump the fence" or refusing to leave. The videos we have are of two GROWN woman who are probably in their 40s fighting a 19 year old girl, and the teenagers trying to break it up [which prompted the police being called.]

Also, if the teenagers were trying to break into a pool and didn't belong there, there were many of them who were quick to help the police in the first place. But my opinion still stands, the rough behavior of that police officer was unnecessary.

I agree. It does not matter what happened leading up to that, him picking her up off the ground and slamming her back down more than once then kneeling on her back is way out of control and he should be fired. There is no context, short of her waving a gun at HIM, that would excuse that behavior.

 

[AnAmericanInDisney]

Those teenagers were out of hand, but that was no justification for the little cop to go all bonkers waving his gun and kneeling on top of that teenage girl. He should not be a cop.

 

[Mizzoufan]

It's really hard to tell since we didn't get to see what all went down, I think one of the cops might have went to far.

 

[Dizlvr]

I have to agree, I'm not sure there is any justification for that police officer's force against that unarmed teen girl. I don't care if she was calling him every name in the book, that looks alot like excessive force to me.

 

[olwyngdh]

Two adult women, adult by age not behavior, started making racist remarks to the kids who had been invited there for a birthday party of a girl that lives in that neighborhood, as do a number of the other kids. One of the racist pig women slapped a girl in the face. The cops were called because a couple nasty women weren't capable of minding their own business and thought they owned the pool and everyone in it, but the kids were the ones attacked by the policeman--just one policeman--and only the African American kids. He is as much of a racist as the two women who started all the trouble in the first place. There is a lot of information out there if you look for it. The cop was wrong, and those two women were wrong--and are lucky that I am not the mother of the girl who was slapped or I would be filing assault charges and demanding that she be barred from the pool because she couldn't behave.

 

[Planogirl]

I think that the one policeman went over the top but I don't see why this is getting so much press. A huge number of teenagers crashed a pool party at a private pool and some ignorant woman got into a fight with another woman over it somehow. Police were called and all of the police that came out seemed to behave perfectly fine except for this one policeman. He seemed to lose his cool but no one was hurt except maybe their pride luckily. The kids were trespassing but he should have just told them to leave and stood his ground while they yelled things. Who cares if they yell as long as they go.

As for the women that fought, they should have been separated and then charges pressed if either side wanted to.

At least that's how things sound so far.

 

[Planogirl]

Two adult women, adult by age not behavior, started making racist remarks to the kids who had been invited there for a birthday party of a girl that lives in that neighborhood, as do a number of the other kids. One of the racist pig women slapped a girl in the face. The cops were called because a couple nasty women weren't capable of minding their own business and thought they owned the pool and everyone in it, but the kids were the ones attacked by the policeman--just one policeman--and only the African American kids. He is as much of a racist as the two women who started all the trouble in the first place. There is a lot of information out there if you look for it. The cop was wrong, and those two women were wrong--and are lucky that I am not the mother of the girl who was slapped or I would be filing assault charges and demanding that she be barred from the pool because she couldn't behave.

In that neighborhood you can't just invite people to a pool party without permission or so I'm told. Plus a lot of kids crashed the party. Again, they should have just ordered the kids to go and left it at that as far as they were concerned. The racist women are pathetic.

Also, some are saying that it was an end of school year party not that that means anything.

 

[TaylorEar]

I think that the one policeman went over the top but I don't see why this is getting so much press. A huge number of teenagers crashed a pool party at a private pool and some ignorant woman got into a fight with another woman over it somehow. Police were called and all of the police that came out seemed to behave perfectly fine except for this one policeman. He seemed to lose his cool but no one was hurt except maybe their pride luckily. The kids were trespassing but he should have just told them to leave and stood his ground while they yelled things. Who cares if they yell as long as they go.

As for the women that fought, they should have been separated and then charges pressed if either side wanted to.

At least that's how things sound so far.

Um... it's getting so much press because he physically attacked an unarmed girl and drew his weapon on multiple unarmed teenagers...

The whole thing started because a white woman told a bunch of the black kids that they should go back to their "project 8 housing", and a fight broke out between adults. I think the cop in question was CLEARLY using excessive force and escalating the whole situation. Throughout the video you can see other cops on the scene, calmly talking to people and disbursing the crowd. When he pulled his gun you see two other cops run up to him and he turns and actually shoves one of the them away. The way he is behaving on the video(s) is absolutely insane, especially when contrasted with the behavior of the other responding officers. He snapped - something that police officers are trained NOT to do.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

Have not seen or read anything yet, but it does not sound good...YIKES!

 

[TaylorEar]

It's also getting so much press because ALL of the kids that the cop yelled at to get down on the ground/threatened/handcuffed/attacked/etc. had one thing in common.

The kid who filmed the whole thing was in view of the cop several times, and was never told to get down on the ground or threatened with arrest. And guess what he DIDN'T share in common with those other kids...?

 

[TLSnell1981]

A seven minute video of a forty-five minute altercation, probably doesn't tell the whole story.

 

[asta]

The police officer may have been rough but it looked like he told the girl twice to sit down. She was clearly disregarding his order so what do you expect the officer to do? I also read that several of her friends rushed back to "rescue" her. In my book that is an attempt at attacking the officer. This is much more than an innocent teen in a bikini being attacked by the police.

If she had sat when and where the officer told her then none of the rough handling is necessary. Whether you like it or not the police are the authority and you need to do what they tell you.

 

[moon]

Just notice that the no one bothers the kid (white) who took the video. According to him (I'm paraphrasing) "The cops went after the black, Mexican, Arabic kids. It was like I was invisible"

Then there's this, from one of the white kids:

"Grace Stone, 14, who is white, told BuzzFeed News that she and friends objected to an adult woman making racist comments to other teens at the party and that the woman turned violent. ...................(more)"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/07/texas-pool-party_n_7530502.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013

There is NO justification for the way that cop manhandled the 15-year old girl.

BTW, that roll on the grass was a nice touch. That cretin acted like he was Sylvester Stallone facing the Zombie Apocalypse. What a MORON!