Max Occupancy in DVC Resorts

[castleri]

Thank you for pointing me to this thread, but...

I am not trying to squeeze 5 into a studio or anything. I only wanted to know if the recent renovations (OKW, BWV, as examples) where sleeper chairs have been added, have made capacity options different than what is reflected on my 2011 point charts.

The point charts show only these 2 resorts as having a capacity of 5 in a 1Br. Is that unchanged?

Just stayed in 1 BR at BW and there was no sleeper chair in that villa so don't count on that one.

 

[bookwormde]

DVC allows 5 in all 1br except AKV values. For the ones officially listed as 5 you can add a 1 child under 3 to bring the occupancy to 6.

POS is just a statement of the rules of the timeshare at the time of the sale offering. With a few limited exceptions, DVC can change those rules per FL timeshare law as long as it is in the best interests fo the majority of the memebers. If they are not advertising a resort for sale they do not have to amend the POS to reflect currnet practices.

bookwormde

 

[Dean]

POS is just a statement of the rules of the timeshare at the time of the sale offering. With a few limited exceptions, DVC can change those rules per FL timeshare law as long as it is in the best interests fo the majority of the memebers. If they are not advertising a resort for sale they do not have to amend the POS to reflect currnet practices.

bookwormde

That's not my understanding. If they are in violation of the rules as recorded in the POS, rules and regs, etc; they will need to amend them to be in compliance. Their risk is likely small if they are giving additional options but more if they are taking them away. Giving the voting representative setup, it's easy as long as the change does not take away from the membership as a whole. If it does, it depends on the given area as to their options. Pertinent to this area I feel they could add to occupancy (change the rules) themselves by the legal rep but it'd take a vote of the membership to reduce it. One thing to note for those looking to exchange in, DVC is more strict in this area than they are directly with members.

 

[Melmarie622]

Will disney ever allow you to have 10 people in a 2 bdrm suite that sleeps 9? We are thinking of renting a 2 bdrm and now my mom may want to come also. Would we be allowed to add her on so she can have ME and dining plan too? Thanks

 

[vicki_c]

There is a dedicated thread for occupancy questions at the top of the boards somewhere. The answer is no, AFAIK, unless one occupant is under 3 years of age (but check the thread).

It is here:
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=901569

 

[dianeschlicht]

Will disney ever allow you to have 10 people in a 2 bdrm suite that sleeps 9? We are currently renting a 2 bdrm and now my mom wants to come also. Would we be allowed to add her on so she can have ME and dining plan too? Thanks

NO! You will need a Grand villa for 10, and even that will be crowded. I really feel the sleeping capacity has been challenged with the addition of sleeper chairs and pullout sofas. In a 2 bedroom villa, you will usually get (with some exceptions) 1 king bed and 2 queen beds. Beyond that, the other 3 guests are getting either a pull out sofa or a pull out chair. That means potentially 6 people (2 to a bed) get "real" beds, and 3 people get to share the pull outs. I'm not sure where you would put a 10th person in a 2 bedroom unless they were able to sleep in the provided Pac N Play for toddlers.

As far as I know, you will NOT be allowed to have 10 on the dining plan in a 2 bedroom. Dining plan rules are changing though, so stay tuned about that.

 

[Dean]

NO! You will need a Grand villa for 10, and even that will be crowded. I really feel the sleeping capacity has been challenged with the addition of sleeper chairs and pullout sofas. In a 2 bedroom villa, you will usually get (with some exceptions) 1 king bed and 2 queen beds. Beyond that, the other 3 guests are getting either a pull out sofa or a pull out chair. That means potentially 6 people (2 to a bed) get "real" beds, and 3 people get to share the pull outs. I'm not sure where you would put a 10th person in a 2 bedroom unless they were able to sleep in the provided Pac N Play for toddlers.

As far as I know, you will NOT be allowed to have 10 on the dining plan in a 2 bedroom. Dining plan rules are changing though, so stay tuned about that.

For the ones that officially sleep 9, I believe ONE under 3 additional is considered OK. That is the only way legally one could get to 10 and at the present time, that would only be for AKV and BLT non value units.

 

[Deb & Bill]

For the ones that officially sleep 9, I believe ONE under 3 additional is considered OK. That is the only way legally one could get to 10 and at the present time, that would only be for AKV and BLT non value units.

But that would only be nine on the dining plan. You can't buy the dining plan for a child under the age of three. The OP wanted ten on the dining plan.

 

[Dean]

But that would only be nine on the dining plan. You can't buy the dining plan for a child under the age of three. The OP wanted ten on the dining plan.

That was not actually the question. The question, as I understood it, was about adding Mom as a 10th person and getting ME and the DDP for her without addressing the demographics of the rest of the group. I'd suspect it's likely true that all of the other 9 are 3 or over and that this either would not or should not be allowed. My answer was to state the specifics and facts as I understand them since I wasn't sure whether there were any under 3 or not in this situation.

 

[tsmith76]

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[chalee94]

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studios sleep 4 (plus one under age 3).

just FYI, any further discussion of occupancy is limited to this thread:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=901569&page=159

 

[Megsmachine]

Is it true that in the one bedrooms you can have 5 people? That they don't deliberately advertise it but it is allowed? Would it be possible to have 5 people, (2 adults, 3 kids) and an infant?

Thanks!

 

[bookwormde]

Yes on points all the 1brs except AKV values allow 5

Here is the thread that occupancy is discussed on.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=901569&page=160

bookwormde

 

[Dean]

Is it true that in the one bedrooms you can have 5 people? That they don't deliberately advertise it but it is allowed? Would it be possible to have 5 people, (2 adults, 3 kids) and an infant?

Thanks!

5 yes but not 5 plus an infant, at least at this time.

 

[jekjones1558]

5 yes but not 5 plus an infant, at least at this time.

Are you sure, Dean? I thought that MS was allowing 5 + an infant under 3 in a Pack 'n' Play in the rooms with the sleeper chair.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Are you sure, Dean? I thought that MS was allowing 5 + an infant under 3 in a Pack 'n' Play in the rooms with the sleeper chair.

I agree. I think if you are in a room with a sleeper chair, you could have 5 plus an infant. It sure wouldn't be my preference, but I think you could do it.

 

[jnsolomon]

I agree. I think if you are in a room with a sleeper chair, you could have 5 plus an infant. It sure wouldn't be my preference, but I think you could do it.

They allowed me to do this in a 1Br at BLT.

 

[Dean]

Are you sure, Dean? I thought that MS was allowing 5 + an infant under 3 in a Pack 'n' Play in the rooms with the sleeper chair.

Yes but only in AKV and BLT currently. OKW may get that option at some point but technically I think they'll have to change to POS to do so. such a POS change is certainly doable if they want. Of course the extra under 3 is a system issue that could change at any point.

 

[divehard]

How many DVC 1 BR can sleep 5 persons and where are they. I thought I heard they were all eventually going to be upgraded to sleep 5. Is this true? Most of them seem to sleep 4 only.
We're ready to purchase a resale (some great deals out there) Trying to decide how many points we will need to make 2 annual trips. One with large group of 8 people and one with smaller group of 4 or 5.

 

[Deb & Bill]

OKW, AKV (Not value villas) and BLT can sleep five in the one bedroom - one king bed, one queen sleeper sofa and one twin sized sleeper chair.