Math help on a slope question

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OK, There are 3 of us looking at this problem... none of us see a problem (I won't tell you what our answer is). We are convinced the answer is correct, but I want to see what other Disser's say before we send it back in with a question....



Can anyone tell me what they get for this:

Find an equation of the line that crosses the x-axis at (-4,0) with a slope of 2
 
y=mx +b

so 0=2(-4) +b
b=8

Therefore the equation is y = 2x + 8
 
BLAST IT!

That WAS DS's answer & the teacher marked it wrong... she really hates him :sad2:

Thanks for the help guys... This has to be brought back to the teacher :(
 

Perhaps she wanted him to use another formula - the point slope formula?

y-y1=m(x-x1)

y-0=2(x-(-4))

y=2x +8

Maybe the marks were for using this formula.
 
Do you honestly think the teacher purposely marked a correct answer wrong because she hates him? It couldn't be an honest mistake? Did your son ask why it was wrong? Did he compare his answer to other kids who got it right?
 
Perhaps she wanted him to use another formula - the point slope formula?

y-y1=m(x-x1)

y-0=2(x-(-4))

y=2x +8

Maybe the marks were for using this formula.


I guess this could be the reason, although it didn't indicate you were supposed to use any particular formula.....

He never looked at the quiz until he got home, even if he had, he would never compare his quizzes or tests with other kids in the class, and of course since he didn't look at it until he got home Friday he couldn't ask the question of what was wrong... He hates bringing stuff back to this teacher :( they don't have a good relationship at all.....
 
y=mx +b

so 0=2(-4) +b
b=8

Therefore the equation is y = 2x + 8


Perhaps she wanted him to use another formula - the point slope formula?

y-y1=m(x-x1)

y-0=2(x-(-4))

y=2x +8

Maybe the marks were for using this formula.

I think the teacher might have wanted the problem to be solved using the second formula; I checked with my algebra notes and that's the one used when the line crosses an A (x,y) spot while the first is the formula generally used when we don't know which spot the line crosses.

I guess this could be the reason, although it didn't indicate you were supposed to use any particular formula.....

He never looked at the quiz until he got home, even if he had, he would never compare his quizzes or tests with other kids in the class, and of course since he didn't look at it until he got home Friday he couldn't ask the question of what was wrong... He hates bringing stuff back to this teacher :( they don't have a good relationship at all.....

I hope it all goes well for your son.:hug: If I were his teacher I would accept both and maybe note why I would probably prefer the second formula.
 
I think the teacher might have wanted the problem to be solved using the second formula; I checked with my algebra notes and that's the one used when the line crosses an A (x,y) spot while the first is the formula generally used when we don't know which spot the line crosses.



I hope it all goes well for your son.:hug: If I were his teacher I would accept both and maybe note why I would probably prefer the second formula.

Thanks, if he could get an explanation that would be beneficial for future exams... they have a very tenuous relationship, so that definitely doesn't help (we try to intervene as little as possible, he had her last year as well)... it's the only thing he got wrong this go round, so he really does need an explanation of why it's marked wrong, it could very well be the formula used.
 
Thanks, if he could get an explanation that would be beneficial for future exams... they have a very tenuous relationship, so that definitely doesn't help (we try to intervene as little as possible, he had her last year as well)... it's the only thing he got wrong this go round, so he really does need an explanation of why it's marked wrong, it could very well be the formula used.

Since they have such a bad relationship, maybe DS could approach the situation by telling her that he tried several times over the weekend to solve the problem, but always ended up with the same answer and would she mind taking the time to show him the correct way to solve the problem. This way DS doesn't appear to acknowledging the poor relationship or sound like he thinks she deliberately marked his paper incorrectly.

I would think she would then look at his work again and if it is wrong show him the correct way, and if not, give him credit for the work.
 
Since they have such a bad relationship, maybe DS could approach the situation by telling her that he tried several times over the weekend to solve the problem, but always ended up with the same answer and would she mind taking the time to show him the correct way to solve the problem. This way DS doesn't appear to acknowledging the poor relationship or sound like he thinks she deliberately marked his paper incorrectly.

I would think she would then look at his work again and if it is wrong show him the correct way, and if not, give him credit for the work.

This would be a very good approach to take, thanks, this is what I'll ask him to do. The worst thing he can do is to come across presumptuous...
 
Did he show any work or just give the answer? Technically, unless clearer explanations are given, both methods should be totally acceptable and I don't know why the teacher would have a problem with either. As a math teacher, I just like the kids to find one method and stick with it. I don't care which it is but since it is a very important concept that will be used a lot, they need to learn one and remember it.

It is disappointing if the teacher is marking it wrong just because she doesn't like your son. That 'susually hard to do when you are a math teacher!!! I've come across some teachers who will give the benefit of the doubt and award many part marks to a student they feel knows what they are doing but award few part marks to students who don't usually get it. Usually the student can go to the teacher and argue for those marks.

If this was a new teacher for him he could try to build a relationship but at this point, I'm not sure what to suggest other than going in for extra help and trying to convince the teacher that he really wants to do well.
 
Did he show any work or just give the answer? Technically, unless clearer explanations are given, both methods should be totally acceptable and I don't know why the teacher would have a problem with either. As a math teacher, I just like the kids to find one method and stick with it. I don't care which it is but since it is a very important concept that will be used a lot, they need to learn one and remember it.

It is disappointing if the teacher is marking it wrong just because she doesn't like your son. That 'susually hard to do when you are a math teacher!!! I've come across some teachers who will give the benefit of the doubt and award many part marks to a student they feel knows what they are doing but award few part marks to students who don't usually get it. Usually the student can go to the teacher and argue for those marks.

If this was a new teacher for him he could try to build a relationship but at this point, I'm not sure what to suggest other than going in for extra help and trying to convince the teacher that he really wants to do well.

Well, he's a 2nd year student for her and their troubles started last year... He's had several quizzes and tests he's brought back for review, but this is the first one this year. DS just believes she doesn't like anyone who doesn't get straight A's (it's an honors program) She doesn't connect with DS at all, we've hired another math teacher as his tutor twice a week. He wishes the tutor could be the class teacher because they totally get one another. Since he started with the tutor he's getting A's, but his regular teacher knows DS is working with the other teacher. The work he's doing with the tutor is totally coming through for him, and he's where he now needs to be, and he is HAPPY! We brought the problem to the tutor before I posted it, and he says it is correct for what was asked. The quiz doesn't ask for you to show your formula, so DS showed NO formula's for any problem. However, I suspect she marked him down on this problem for lack of doing so. The teacher we are working with thinks this isn't right, but there's really no way for us to fight for the points. DS is going to take the tact mentioned above, saying he worked on it over the weekend and could she please explain the answer to him.... then we'll see if she will mark the problem correct or not, or explain why she marked it wrong.

It's amazing what the tutor (who teaches other honor programs at the high school) can do with DS in one session, covering a week's worth of what is done in class. The other session of the week is dedicated to the work he did in this woman's class last year where he is not showing a strong enough foundation.

We're trying to teach DS that you will not always get the teachers you like, or the teachers you need, if it's truly a problem, then find a tutor who can help you through whatever troubles you are having and that you can relate with. We are extraordinarily lucky to have the resource. DS says at least 3/4's of the class has a much lower grade than he does, but unfortunately they are all supposed to carry a 92 to stay in the class. DS is 4 points short, but based on his trajectory since hiring the tutor we will fight for him to stay in the class.

It's complicated... I hope for a teacher DS connects to next year, meanwhile, if he is dropped from the class, he breezed through the college entrance exam to take the College Algebra class & we'll have him take it in January (he's in 8th grade). I found a really good professor, and DS has really good academic references so they'll let him take it at the college.

In my sons exact quote "He (the tutor) owns her (the teacher)", he's totally psyched to be working with the tutor... he really likes math, but he really doesn't get this teacher.....
 


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