Marathon Weekend 2020

My memory is the same for 2011 and 2012; only CMs in EPCOT in first part.

However, in mile 3 and before we entered the park, I remember high-fiving my family and many spectators as we ran through the EPCOT parking lot -- they were lined up on the side of the course route and it was a very fun experience.

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I found this video from 2012 which shows the runners entering the Epcot lot and the spectators lined up to greet them. Interesting to see the area was just partially coned off -- and no barricade fence like TTC.

This link starts at the 6:17 mark with the Epcot lot:

 
Starting to drive to Florida tomorrow morning for what will be a crazy few weeks. The entire family is driving down to stay with my in-laws in Port Charlotte. We then fly back on NYE leaving the car in long term parking at MCO. Then flying back on the 8th for MW! Hard to believe I'm packing all my running gear for Dopey. Glad my next two long training runs will be in warmer weather. I am tired of the treadmill.
 
RACE -half
NAME -Shannon
DIS'er name -
gemini1131
Costume/Clothing -
pink/blue aurora
Corral -
f
Pre-Race Meet-up? -
(Yes or No) yes
Early Bird or Late Arriver - early
Front, Middle, or Back of corral -middle?
Expected Pace -
14-15

RACE -full
NAME -Shannon
DIS'er name -
gemini1131
Costume/Clothing -
Minnie
Corral -
F
Pre-Race Meet-up? -
(Yes or No) yes
Early Bird or Late Arriver -early
Front, Middle, or Back of corral -middle?
Expected Pace -
1430-1530
 

Okay, I'll ask. @DopeyBadger -- what should we be doing for heat acclimation? Our temps have been in the 30s and 40s and I've done most of my long runs outside, short runs on the treadmill. I do NOT run well in heat and this is my first full. Teach me, jedi master!

I put them behind spoilers for anyone who wants to skip past it.

A post from November 2017:

Another option to help prepare for training in winter but racing in the unpredictable Florida weather is heat acclimation training outside (similar to your strategy on the treadmill):

So during most of your training you'll be wearing just enough clothes to border on being cold when training outside but staying comfortable. When you enter those last two weeks of training during your taper, switch to overdressing on everyday. It takes approximately 8-10 workouts to acclimate to a different condition (thus for people who run 4+ times per week about 2 weeks).

For example, for a cold workout I might wear columbia long sleeve, tights, and gloves. This would keep me comfortable in the cold weather but wouldn't hinder my performance. But during the taper during the same workout, I'd wear two columbia long sleeves, a cheap running jacket, two pairs of tights, and gloves. It was INCREDIBLY hot and uncomfortable to run in. I didn't care about pace anymore because I was in the taper. I was more concerned with giving the same effort but in this simulated heated environment. By wearing a poorly circulating running jacket, I semi-created a humid environment close to my skin (not allowing the moisture to leave). It is ABSOLUTELY critical that you continue to drink water as if it were a hot environment because this technique will dehydrate you very quickly and you'd like to continue to recover (taper) in advance of the race as well. Also, be very careful during your cool down because without the massive heat being generated by your body you'll get cold quick because of the sweat.

I used this Heat Acclimation strategy in preparation for the 2016/2017 Dopey Challenge. The 2016 marathon was relatively hot and humid (Temp + Dew Point of 140) compared to when I left WI (WC of -50F). That year was the slowest Disney Marathon winning time (2:33) ever. The winner, Fredison Costa, mentioned while accepting the award that he was about 15 minutes off his predicted time (because of the weather). That year, I was roughly 10 minutes off my time (3:45 vs 3:55) using my Heat Acclimation strategy even though I came from the frozen tundra. Is it perfect? Of course not. But it certainly can help make some of the necessary physiological changes in the body to enable you to be better prepared for racing in the heat (on the completely unknown chance it'll be T+D of 140 or like this past year with a T+D of 67).

And a different post with similar information, but some different stuff from December 2016.

According to the research I've read, it takes about 14 days or 10 workouts to acclimate to a new temperature. So around today marks a good time to consider starting. For me personally, I typically dress in whatever I would normally wear for the weather conditions, and then act as if it's the next level of cold. So when I would wear shorts and tank normally in such weather, now I'll wear tights and a thermal. Or if I were to dress in a thermal and tights, now maybe a thermal+jacket and two tights. The point is to dress warmer than you need to be to create a micro-climate close to your skin. You want to be sweating and "feel" hot. This sweating and feeling of being "hot" will induce an adaptation in your body to acclimate to a warmer climate (primarily higher blood plasma and volume level, increased sweat rate, decreased salt amount in sweat, decreased fatigue rate of sweat glands, and quicker onset of sweating).

A few things to keep in mind if you choose to heat acclimate and have never done it before:
-Make sure to increase your fluid intake. Because you'll be sweating more, you'll need more fluids than a normal winter run. So make sure to stay hydrated. There is conflicting research as to whether dehydrated training is the key to heat acclimation, but I personally will not intentionally withhold water from myself.
-Be prepared to sacrifice some of the quality of your workout. You're going to be hot and you may find your pace will slow a bit naturally. In my opinion, that's ok. Don't push it. I would prefer to sacrifice a touch on pacing so that I can better prepare my body for the possible heat in Florida. The minimal gains made in pacing at this point in training would be far-outweighed by the potential gains made through heat acclimation training.
-When the run is finished, make sure to get inside quickly. Because of the excessive sweat rate for a winter run, you're more susceptible to getting cold quickly with all that moisture hanging around your body. So as soon as you finish the run, get inside your home, gym or car. Stretch indoors if possible.
-I will use this method on all types of paced runs from easy to long run to tempo so that my body acclimates at all types of paces, but more-so to get in the necessary workouts (or days) I'm looking for.

Sources:

http://www.irunfar.com/2009/02/heat-acclimation.html
https://runnersconnect.net/running-training-articles/science-of-hot-weather-running/
https://runnersconnect.net/running-training-articles/summer-training-for-a-marathon/
http://home.trainingpeaks.com/blog/article/preparing-for-a-hot-race-while-training-in-the-cold
 
I’m having a dilemma. I originally registered for the 10k. I decided to pay the fee to upgrade to the half. I have no idea if Disney did something wrong or I did something wrong - but now I have both race bibs. I’m afraid I’ll have FOMO if I don’t do the 10k now. But my running partner is a lot faster than me, so I don’t want to be too tired for the half (although he hasn’t trained in weeks so maybe I won’t be at such a disadvantage). I’m trying to figure out what I have scheduled that Friday and if my husband would be ok doing it alone (although he’s alone with them often in the parks anyhow since I don’t actually do many rides, so not a big change for him).
 
Goofy here I come!
Thanks @DopeyBadger

RACE - Half
NAME - Beverly
DIS'er name -bevcgg
Costume/Clothing - I ❤ 13.1 Minnie Shirt/ Blue polka dot Minnie skirt and ears
Corral - E
Pre-Race Meet-up? -
Yes
Early Bird or Late Arriver - Early
Front, Middle, or Back of corral - Mid
Expected Pace - 12:00/12:30 (when running- not including photo ops!)

RACE - Full
NAME - Beverly
DIS'er name - bevcgg
Costume/Clothing - I 459799 26.2 Mickey Shirt/colorful sparkle skirt
Corral - E
Pre-Race Meet-up? -
Yes
Early Bird or Late Arriver - Early
Front, Middle, or Back of corral - Mid
Expected Pace - 12:00/12:30 (when running- not including photo ops!)
 
RACE - HM
NAME - Grace
DIS'er name - Mumof4Mice
Costume/Clothing - Likely Whinnie The Pooh
Corral - C
Pre-Race Meet-up? - (Yes or No) Yes
Early Bird or Late Arriver - Late
Front, Middle, or Back of corral - Front
Expected Pace - 8:23
 
RACE - Marathon
NAME - Laura
DIS'er name - Nightriders19
Costume/Clothing - Captain Marvel
Corral - A
Pre-Race Meet-up? -
(Yes or No) Probably not
Early Bird or Late Arriver - Whenever the monorail gets me there!
Front, Middle, or Back of corral -
Front
Expected Pace - 7:45ish

I'm mostly just a lurker around here, but if you see Captain Marvel waving at any of you, that's me! DH is running as well. Iron Man in Corral H, likely running 14 - 15 min pace.
 
RACE - Half
NAME - Marsha
DIS'er name -
DIS-OH
Costume/Clothing -Ink-n-Burn skirt
Corral -E
Pre-Race Meet-up? -
(Yes or No) Yes
Early Bird or Late Arriver -Early
Front, Middle, or Back of corral -Front/Middle
Expected Pace -11:30-12:00
 
Did my last long run yesterday. Kind of rehearsal type of run. Did not worked out as expected. Sore between my legs and nipples have been burning and bleeding.
Glad that happenend yesterday and not during Marathon Weekend
 
Thanks for the heat acclimation info @DopeyBadger

Still hoping the weather is cool enough I won't need it, but I'll definitely start including it into my training after my peak long run tomorrow.
 
RACE - Half/Full
NAME - Bree
DIS'er - Bree
Costume/Clothing - Not sure yet
Corral - C
Pre Race Meet Up - yes
Early/Late - Depends on what happens the night before the race and when I get to bed
Front/Middle/Back - See answer above
Expected Pace: @lhermiston @rteetz @FFigawi @Princess KP can I join the race party :wave:

Goof Troop!
 
Use liquid bandage to coat your nipples on race day. #realtalk
I highly recommend the 'Band-Aid Clear Spots' for nipple protection -- they never come off, even during marathon races and my 22 mile training runs in which I'm completely soaked from the Florida heat. I use them on every run from 5 miles on up. For convenience, and to save money, you can buy 10 boxes on Amazon for about $2.24 a box (for an average of 8 cents per run).

Note: You need to buy the 'Band Aid' brand. Generic versions always seem to fall off.

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https://www.amazon.com/Band-Aid-Bra...ywords=circle+band-aids&qid=1576946773&sr=8-4
 
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I was looking at the time(s) that I got up in 2017 for the 10k and the Marathon. Looks like I got up around 3. With the earlier start for the Marathon, I'm assuming that I should push that time back about a half an hour?

Well just an FYI. The race starts at 5:00am and as we've mentioned prior the race goes through the EPCOT parking lot and crosses the path to the starting corrals. The event guide has a warning about showing up too late:

"Just a friendly reminder that participants for the 2020 Walt Disney World Marathon should arrive at Epcot by 3:30 a.m. on Sunday, January 12. With the new course running through Epcot’s parking lot, late arrivals could miss the start or experience significant delays getting to their corral."

Having a "suggested" time to be at the parking lot isn't anything new (the HM says be there by 4:00am) and in the past people have shown up later than suggested and been fine. Although there have been cases where people didn't show up early enough and missed the start of their corral. But the suggestion of missing the start or delays to the corral is a new message based on the new course design. Since the walk to the corrals isn't estimated to open until 3:45am anyways (based on the last few years but no guarantee to be the same) I'd say that's a little early. But the later you arrive (or head to the bus?) the more risk you are accepting. Just depends on your personal preference.
 
Thanks @DopeyBadger !

RACE -5-K
NAME -Patrick
DIS'er name -GuinessRunner
Costume/Clothing - Lady Tremaine (DDs are Drizella and Anastasia)
Corral
- ?
Pre-Race Meet-up? - (Yes or No) Yes
Early Bird or Late Arriver - Early
Front, Middle, or Back of corral -Middle
Expected Pace -13-14

RACE -10-K
NAME -Patrick
DIS'er name -GuinessRunner
Costume/Clothing - No Clue yet
Corral - ?
Pre-Race Meet-up? - (Yes or No) Yes
Early Bird or Late Arriver - Early
Front, Middle, or Back of corral -Middle
Expected Pace -10-11

RACE -Half
NAME -Patrick
DIS'er name -GuinessRunner
Costume/Clothing - No clue yet
Corral - D
Pre-Race Meet-up? - (Yes or No) Yes
Early Bird or Late Arriver - Early
Front, Middle, or Back of corral -Middle
Expected Pace -11-12

RACE -Full
NAME -Patrick
DIS'er name -GuinessRunner
Costume/Clothing - No clue yet
Corral - D
Pre-Race Meet-up? - (Yes or No) Yes
Early Bird or Late Arriver - Early
Front, Middle, or Back of corral -Middle
Expected Pace -11-12
 












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