Looks Like Someone Got Banned From Disney At FW.

[tiggerdad]

Well, at the risk of throwing fuel on this fire, here's a kicker for you.

Just witnessed the rental company's flat bed pickup come collect a rental 5er from site 1449 directly opposite to us (1458). They vacated the site at 12:10 pm, well after the published 11:00 a.m. checkout time.

Do they get special treatment from FW?
If so, why. The cleaning crew needs the same amount of time to return a campsite to service no matter who the previous renter/guest was.
If not, why didn't a CM come challenge the driver over the late departure? Another case of rules for some...not for all.

Doesn't seem fair to me.

Maybe it was the time? The original culprit was a good 2.5 hours late, this latest incident was about an hour. I'd wager FW allows a certain amount of time to be late before they go knocking on doors. 2 hours, in my opinion, would be a safe amount of time for a guest to be out or at least notify the staff if they have a complication that is slowing them down.

 

[bama_ed]

Well, at the risk of throwing fuel on this fire, here's a kicker for you.

Just witnessed the rental company's flat bed pickup come collect a rental 5er from site 1449 directly opposite to us (1458). They vacated the site at 12:10 pm, well after the published 11:00 a.m. checkout time.

Do they get special treatment from FW?
If so, why. The cleaning crew needs the same amount of time to return a campsite to service no matter who the previous renter/guest was.
If not, why didn't a CM come challenge the driver over the late departure? Another case of rules for some...not for all.

Doesn't seem fair to me.

Stork,

Any idea if the name of the rental company was one of the Disney-approved rv rental vendors? Maybe they get a buffer time due to their official status.

Also, on a Monday or Tuesday, there may not be arriving guests circling the block waiting to get their assigned campsite. There may be enough "slack" in demand to let laggards slide and move arriving guests to other available sites at their reserved level (who will never know that they were not getting their pre-assigned site). Around the weekends (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) there is huge turnover at the Fort (guests leaving, lots of sites being prepped, guests arriving). It's more of an issue then and less so on Mon-Thur.

I'm generally a rule follower and expect others to be so also. My comment to the late guy is "who do you think you are?". He's a nobody just like I am. So my Old Testament reference was only in regards to the Mosaic Law with clear do's and don'ts. DO leave by the official check-out time. DON'T think you're special and the rules don't apply to you. That seems pretty logical, balanced, and even-tempered to me.

The same rules apply to you AND me. Sounds good.

Thanks for the update, Stork.

Bama Ed

PS - I remember back in the day when Greenberg was doing huge rental business at the Fort. I arrived early to check-in and had to wait until well after lunch to get to my assigned site. I saw Greenberg vehicles pick up trailers at camp sites and roll them into the big field by the hitch/un-hitch loops and clean/service them right there and haul them back to new campsites that same day. I tell that story to mean that Disney may be easy on official vendors (for sure) and other vendors who help them get their campsites booked with rental trailers.

But the Fort is so full now for the most part, Disney doesn't need the help any more.

 

[Stork]

I wonder why the guy was late leaving? Everybody Some here seem to assume it is entitlement. It could be any number of things - maybe even something caused by Disney.

At the same time the guy in the overflow lot is not 'entitled' to his site until 3pm. Seems like another sense of entitlement to feel that they can impose their opinion on a total stranger during that stranger's interaction with a company.

Surprised at this response from you. Have read your posts for years and found them entertaining and even tempered.

Do I agree with how it was handled? No. Would I interfere? Definitely not.

Edit noted, Judique. Thank you.

 

[Stork]

Thank you all for your input.

....They may have been moving to another site also, and that one needed to be ready first....

I'm sure the overflow lot was available from 11:00 - 3:00 just like it is for the rest of us. I can see, however, with consecutive days (nights) being paid for that staying in situ until moving was required would be deemed appropriate and acceptable.

 

[bigdisneydaddy]

I chalk it up to the general decline in social graces, my Mom taught me to be polite (until its time to not be polite) it opened a lot of doors for me as a child and an adult.

 

[Stork]

Stork,
....Any idea if the name of the rental company was one of the Disney-approved rv rental vendors? Maybe they get a buffer time due to their official status.

I'll have to ask. Don't remember seeing any signs on the truck as I was looking to see who to call. Interested in looking to book them for our son's family to join us some time in the future.

 

[amcc]

Stork,

Any idea if the name of the rental company was one of the Disney-approved rv rental vendors? Maybe they get a buffer time due to their official status.

Also, on a Monday or Tuesday, there may not be arriving guests circling the block waiting to get their assigned campsite. There may be enough "slack" in demand to let laggards slide and move arriving guests to other available sites at their reserved level (who will never know that they were not getting their pre-assigned site). Around the weekends (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) there is huge turnover at the Fort (guests leaving, lots of sites being prepped, guests arriving). It's more of an issue then and less so on Mon-Thur.

I'm generally a rule follower and expect others to be so also. My comment to the late guy is "who do you think you are?". He's a nobody just like I am. So my Old Testament reference was only in regards to the Mosaic Law with clear do's and don'ts. DO leave by the official check-out time. DON'T think you're special and the rules don't apply to you. That seems pretty logical, balanced, and even-tempered to me.

The same rules apply to you AND me. Sounds good.

Thanks for the update, Stork.

Bama Ed

PS - I remember back in the day when Greenberg was doing huge rental business at the Fort. I arrived early to check-in and had to wait until well after lunch to get to my assigned site. I saw Greenberg vehicles pick up trailers at camp sites and roll them into the big field by the hitch/un-hitch loops and clean/service them right there and haul them back to new campsites that same day. I tell that story to mean that Disney may be easy on official vendors (for sure) and other vendors who help them get their campsites booked with rental trailers.

But the Fort is so full now for the most part, Disney doesn't need the help any more.

I'm one of those undesireable semi-local campers that takes up holidays and weekends so I'm used to seeing the Fort packed with people. But how full is it during the week at non-peak times? I can still get my choice of weekends for August and July. I wonder what the occupancy rate is throughout the year and overall.

 

[Stork]

We got here Tues April 20 staying thru Fri April 30. Witnessed a mass exodus on Sunday morning, minor version also occurred Saturday. Sunday night and Monday night numerous vacancies on our loops (Little Bear and Big Bear). Little Bear alone had 5 vacancies. Tuesday started filling in, but still vacant pads. Today looks to be a busy arrival day.

 

[Jimsig]

Meh. Assuming he travels with family (as most campers do), it would be easy enough for him to have a family member make the reservation next time. That won't stop him from coming back if he wants to come back, unfortunately.

I have a feeling Disney also goes by addresses and probably licensee plates, so if the address popped in the system a flag would be raised alerting them to the previous issue. Of course they could use another family members address but the plate number could catch that. I also wonder if when Disney does ban someone like this do they send them a registered receipt requested letter after the fact alerting them to this and say if they are caught on property they are subject to arrest for trespassing?

The original post:
Around 130p a CM pulled up and asked the guy in the site across from ours if he would be gone soon as it was his check out day and he was supposed to be out by 11a. The guy says "I'll leave when I'm damn well ready to leave, not a moment sooner, got it?" The CM them told him they had someone waiting for that site and it still needed to be cleaned after he left. Guy says "I' don't care. I already told you I'll leave when I'm ready." The CM says sir you agreed to be out by 11a when you checked in. Guy says "Oh well."

I think it pretty clear from that the individual did not seem to be having anything more than an entitled moment going on here. No mention of mechanical problem or other issue.

No "assumption" here based on that description and certainly no indication it was a Disney reason.

I wonder why the guy was late leaving? Everybody Some here seem to assume it is entitlement. It could be any number of things - maybe even something caused by Disney.

At the same time the guy in the overflow lot is not 'entitled' to his site until 3pm. Seems like another sense of entitlement to feel that they can impose their opinion on a total stranger during that stranger's interaction with a company.

Surprised at this response from you. Have read your posts for years and found them entertaining and even tempered.

Do I agree with how it was handled? No. Would I interfere? Definitely not.

This individual had not even started packing up. All his stuff was still out all over the place etc. like he had no intention of leaving. Maybe he thought he could get a free night of he just stayed? If you are having an issue copping an attitude is not the way to handle it. If when asked if he was leaving and he said he was having an issue etc I'm sure Disney would have offered some sort of help, heck even gone out of their way to help.

 

[bama_ed]

I'm one of those undesireable semi-local campers that takes up holidays and weekends so I'm used to seeing the Fort packed with people.

Noooo you're not, Allie. You and U are good people. And the kids too.

Bama Ed

 

[4077]

At the same time the guy in the overflow lot is not 'entitled' to his site until 3pm. Seems like another sense of entitlement to feel that they can impose their opinion on a total stranger during that stranger's interaction with a company.

As has all ready at least been implied in other responses, it has nothing to do with the arriving guest, but the rule for checkout. Generally, I would assume it does not take 4 hours to clean/prepare a site between each guest, but they do not show up at each site RIGHT at 11 to start cleaning. Some sites they may be there right at 11, some not until 1 or 2, hence the 4 hour window to get to all vacated sites in need of preparation.

As stated, who knows the exact reason, but the described behavior without any further explanation as to the attitude (not that the attitude towards the CM’s would be acceptable in any case), doesn’t sound like someone who had a problem (mechanical, late bus, etc) to deal with. I would think any reasonable person (even if done with a rude attitude...which is still just that...rude) would have said “I’m late because......” if there was a good reason other than “just because.”

 

[PaHunter]

Hey does anyone have a good recipe for soft chewy chocolate chip cookies ?

 

[Stratman50th]

Hey does anyone have a good recipe for soft chewy chocolate chip cookies ?

Yup. That's the way I like them. So unfortunately you can't count on any of them to be soft so I put them in a tupperware or even a cookie tin and put a couple slices of bread, white works the best on top and the cookies absorb the moisture and turn soft and tasty! The bread turns into rock but who's going to eat the bread!

 

[PaHunter]

Yup. That's the way I like them. So unfortunately you can't count on any of them to be soft so I put them in a tupperware or even a cookie tin and put a couple slices of bread, white works the best on top and the cookies absorb the moisture and turn soft and tasty! The bread turns into rock but who's going to eat the bread!

I have done that for years also, and when my DW and I met she thought I lost my mind the first time I did it.

 

[Teamubr]

I didn't realize it was cookie time, but it does make sense.

DW has some secret to making them soft. I think it is lots of real butter. I prefer the center to be soft and the edges to be a little crunchy. Best of both worlds.

You know what I'm going to go home and do now, right?

j

 

[serenitygr]

We are fans of butter flavored crisco, the nestle toll house recipe, insulated cookie sheets, and baking just until barely tan

 

[tiggerdad]

Yes, butter Crisco for sure.

Speaking of cookies, anyone catch the latest discussion on Zingers?

 

[4077]

We are fans of butter flavored crisco, the nestle toll house recipe, insulated cookie sheets, and baking just until barely tan View attachment 571645

WOW!! Those look REALLY GOOD

 

[bigdisneydaddy]

Thanks for the cookie comment, now this cup of coffee I was enjoying seems so inadequate and in need of a chocolate chip cookie

 

[jkh36619]

Google double tree cookie recipe. They released it not to long ago. They are legit.