Look mom, my that's my kindergarten teacher!

[Imzadi]

The mother should be investigated for child abuse for taking an 8 year old boy into a female showering area.

More like adding to the delinquency of a minor.

OK, I'm a teacher and the thought of one of my students ever seeing me naked is just terrifying!

Granted, I teach junior high...

I guess you don't teach how to give speeches, and for the person to imagine everyone sitting in class and in the audience, is in their underwear?

 

[Hillbeans]

I exit the curtained area in my underwear. There is no reason not to do so. I frankly don't want to sit on a bench where someone else has sat, without underwear, without a towel, putting on their shoes, socks, make up and blow drying there hair before they bother to put on their underwear.

OMG, when you put it that way!

I agree, no reason to walk out of the shower, curtained area totally nude expecting no one to look at you. My gym does not allow kids in the locker rooms at all, so we don't have this issue - there is a family changing room for everyone under 16.

 

[minkydog]

Is there also a policy of no girls over 5 in the mens locker room??
Just curious, but does anyone notice these threads ALWAYS involve a boy/man/male of some sort seeing a female of some sort naked? Why aren't there ever threads about little Susie seeing a naked guy??

That said, I think an 8 year old is too old to be in a locker room designated for the opposite sex. They can wait in a "family" area or outside the locker area if necessary.

At our community pool the policy goes both ways--no children over the age of 5 of opposite gender in the locker rooms. As my DD used to say "Boys can see boys and girls can see girls."

 

[KandD]

I'm confused, why are there so many kids at a gym that they need a family locker room at all? Is this like a YMCA?

 

[kaytieeldr]

Just curious, but does anyone notice these threads ALWAYS involve a boy/man/male of some sort seeing a female of some sort naked? Why aren't there ever threads about little Susie seeing a naked guy??

Because men have too much common sense to bring their daughters into the MALE ONLY dressing room.

Because I am sick of seeing older boys in the women's locker room, I told the mom that there was a family room. Her reply, her son was 8 and too old for the family locker room.

Totally here? How is EIGHT too OLD for a FAMILY locker room? Do families not have eight-year-olds?????

 

[Beckypooh1972]

Omg! I would be so embarrassed - it's not like he's 3 or something! Yikes! Come to think of it - I wouldn't want even my 3 year old boys to see a random person naked... what are people thinking?

 

[monsterkitty]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks it's weird for someone to walk out of a shower totally nude.

What if one of her girl students was in the locker room? Would that be okay?

She didn't walk out of the shower nude - she had just thrown the towel she was wearing in the used towel bin and was getting ready to get dressed.

self-centered in your own bubble = selfish. Can't imagine any other outcome if you never think of others.

Are we going to have a thread debate between self-centered vs. selfish?


Maybe I'm one of those who don't have hangups about it, but I don't have (much) of a problem with a girl student seeing a woman.

A boy to see more than he should, goes into a different category.

After the boy left the teacher said that she never thought she would see any of her students there as she taught in a few districts over. She said that is what she gets for thinking!

I'm confused, why are there so many kids at a gym that they need a family locker room at all? Is this like a YMCA?

It is not the YMCA, but it does have two leisure pools and two lap pools. During the day there is open swim in the outdoor pool for kids.

Totally here? How is EIGHT too OLD for a FAMILY locker room? Do families not have eight-year-olds?????

That is the killer here - there is no age limit for the family room!

I would die if I saw in of my students there. However, since I teach in another district and since 90% of my kids are are free/reduced lunch I probably won't have to worry about it!

 

[Imzadi]

I would die if I saw in of my students there. However, since I teach in another district and since 90% of my kids are are free/reduced lunch I probably won't have to worry about it!

But. . . but. . . that's what the nude kindergarten teacher thought, too.

 

[NHdisneylover]

Well nude beach is so different then this situation. I mean on a nude beach one would expect to be seen and to see other nude people of both sexes.

In a locker room like the gym the OP said, you would expect only same sex to see you.

But like others have said, I don't see it as end of the world or that horrible. But our family is more open about nudity.

I agree with every word of this.

I guess I'm the only one who thinks it's weird for someone to walk out of a shower totally nude.

What if one of her girl students was in the locker room? Would that be okay?

Single sex locker rooms are FOR showering and changing. Nudity is involved at stages in this activity I would think nothing of it if one of her female students was in the locker room. They all have the same parts and are doing what they are supposed to do in that room, right?

Just curious, but does anyone notice these threads ALWAYS involve a boy/man/male of some sort seeing a female of some sort naked? Why aren't there ever threads about little Susie seeing a naked guy??
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I think this is largely due to the tendency of our society to view MEN as predators from whom our children need to be protected. Thus, a boy plenty old enough to change on his own would not be allowed into the men's locker room because of the fear that he would be molested or killed but that same fear does not exist in nearly so pervasive a way for girls/women (so a girl of the same age and abilities would be allowed to change in the ladies room if Dad were taking her out). I really worry about the horrible message we are sending to our children by teaching them that men should not be trusted. I mean, how does that make a boy (who will grow up to be a man--duh) feel? How will it affect a girl's relationships? I don't know, but it worries me.

 

[bumbershoot]

What if one of her girl students was in the locker room? Would that be okay?

I agree with the way you're thinking. If I had a student, I wouldn't want that student to see me nekkid no matter "what" that kid was. Of course, that's really not likely to happen, since I change in a curtained room, wear a towel over to the curtained shower area (I choose to not use the "wall o showers"), wear a towel out of the shower, and dress again in the curtained room. Just not interested in showin' it all!

In the women's locker room at my gym, there is a shower and a curtained area outside the shower so there is no excuse to wander around naked for an length of time. I exit the curtained area in my underwear. There is no reason not to do so. I frankly don't want to sit on a bench where someone else has sat, without underwear, without a towel, putting on their shoes, socks, make up and blow drying there hair before they bother to put on their underwear.

I so agree. If only everyone felt that way. Gah.

I don't know ANYONE who is comfortable being naked in front of anyone and everyone. Eeeeeps.

I do. Man she's embarrassing sometimes.




Next year I'll be in a tough spot with DS. We go to the Y and he takes classes most days of the week. At our Y there are adult locker rooms, one for men, one for women. They are upstairs, and NO KIDS are allowed.

If you have kids, you take them into the family locker rooms, there's a women's and a men's...opposite sex kids are allowed until they are 7.

And after that...who knows? I see plenty of boys going alone into the male family locker room...but gosh...that feels a little scary to me.

The only other choice is to use one of the three big bathrooms off the pool deck (the only time DS needs a locker room is to get to the pool, as it's the best way to get there after checking in, and everyone needs to shower (most do so with their swimsuits on) before getting in the pool). However, our Y has a thriving aquatic program for people with physical disabilities, and the bathrooms are very accessible, and so they are either filled with caregivers and their clients OR I feel incredibly rushed to get out so that those who need those bathrooms more than we do can get into them! I really dislike using those bathrooms (each has a roll-in shower, along with room for changing, a toilet, and sink) b/c I feel like others should use them. But next year, that's where we'll be, unless DS grows up so much that I feel comfy sending him into the boy's/men's locker room on his own.

 

[Mickey's Minion]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks it's weird for someone to walk out of a shower totally nude.

What if one of her girl students was in the locker room? Would that be okay?

I don't find it strange at all. You are in a women's locker room with the expectation of being with all women.

In our fitness club, there is a hot tub in the locker room. Many women go right from the shower into tub - nothing on.

Every women's locker room I have ever been in, from the local Y to the poshest fitness club has always had unclothed women walking from the shower to the lockers.

At the town pool, there is just a large room with showerheads, no curtains, no separate dressing areas. You go in, you shower, you change - all out in the open.

 

[Mickey's Minion]

The mother should be investigated for child abuse for taking an 8 year old boy into a female showering area.

Child abuse to see the human body?

I guess an 8 year old cannot go to an art museum either? Keep him out of Louvre as there are plenty of nudes to see.

Rude of the mother to not respect the rules and take him to the family area.

But hardly child abuse.

 

[Art 1]

Child abuse to see the human body?

I guess an 8 year old cannot go to an art museum either? Keep him out of Louvre as there are plenty of nudes to see.

Rude of the mother to not respect the rules and take him to the family area.

But hardly child abuse.

There is a difference between this and art. The normal and decent people that I know would not think an 8 year old boy should be in a woman's locker room.

Imagine an 8 yr old girl in a men's locker room, is that alright as well?

 

[NHdisneylover]

There is a difference between this and art. The normal and decent people that I know would not think an 8 year old boy should be in a woman's locker room.

Imagine an 8 yr old girl in a men's locker room, is that alright as well?

I think it is inappropriate to bring an 8 year old into an opposite gender locker room regardless of sex. I think this because the the people in the dressing room have a reasonable expectation of not having to be seen by people of the opposite gender. Some people are very bothered by this and that should be respected when they are in a place which is meant to be for their gender only. But my concern is not in the child seeing nude people (of either gender). I don't think it would be child abuse to take a child to a nudist beach either. T touch, fondle, leer at them in a sexual way is abusive, but for them to see, in a setting where it is the "norm" other naked humans is not in and of itself abuse. It is just humanity.

 

[polkadotsuitcase]

Child abuse to see the human body?

I guess an 8 year old cannot go to an art museum either? Keep him out of Louvre as there are plenty of nudes to see.

This reminds me of a time we were with a 3rd grade school group at the art museum. The guide was leading us around, and we stopped at a stone sculpture of a woman. She had no arms. No facial features. She was all blue. And yes, she had no clothing, but it was a completely smooth sculpture, not detailed or anything.

The guide asked the kids what they noticed. And the first little boy said not that she was blue. Or had no arms. He said, staring in a trance, "Her booooobs."

 

[chicagodisneyfan]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks it's weird for someone to walk out of a shower totally nude.

What if one of her girl students was in the locker room? Would that be okay?

I generally walk out of a shower nude? Did not know there was another way to shower.

I will be naked in a womens locker room (not hanging out naked) while drying off and dressing. It is so annoying when a crazy helicopter mom thinks the rules don't apply to them and brings their boys to the locker room.

 

[npmommie]

in the winter I take the kids swimming at a fitness center, there is no family dressing room, there is a sign right on the door to the locker room alerting everyone who goes in of this fact, and to just be respectful.

well it never fails that someone is walking around naked, and gives me a dirty look because my 5 yo ds is in there
hello, there is a sign on the door, I think the people IN the dressing room need to be respectful too in that situation.
no I don't want my ds to see YOU naked, he doesn't walk around naked after coming out of the pool, neither does my dd.......they go into the shower which is behind a curtain, and then change in the area within the shower area, but still behind the curtain.

If there was a family dressing room, I would gladly use it

 

[mommycrawford]

If there is a family locker room, I agree, that should have been used.

That said,....I went to a public pool with my DD and a friend and her son. The kids were about 8. There was only a Men's and Women's dressing room.

I would certainly not send the one male child into the Men's locker room alone....Add to the mix that he is autistic, and could not advocate for himself if he needed help!!!!

Sometimes, we don't know the whole story of why people do things that seem to defy common sense/courtesy/custom! Embarrassment and harm are different, and we all try to keep our children safe the best way we can (I hope anyway!)

 

[Mrs. Charming]

if the boy was too old for the 'family' locker room, then surely he shouldn't be in the women's one.

For what it is worth, when I used to belong to the YMCA there was a family locker room, a boys locker room, a girls locker room, a mens and a womans locker room. The locker room rules were pretty straightforward and obvious:

No children in the adult locker rooms PERIOD. That was an absolute. If you are 17 years and 364 days old, you go in the boys or girls locker room.

No children (or adults) of the opposite sex in the children's locker room.
Female parent + female child(ren) = girls locker room
Female parent + male child or a mix of male/female children = family locker room
Male parent + male child(ren) = boys locker room
Male parent + female child or a mix of male/female children = family locker room.

Nice setup! It's too bad other places didn't work like that!

 

[Green Tea]

Eight is too old for the family room so she thinks the ladies room is proper? Yea, that makes sense. Ugh.