Line holders

[TeresaWen]

I don't abuse this but I don't think it's an issue really at Disney! It's my happy place. Every line I have ever been in families have gone in front of me to join their wife or husband and I have never once been bothered! This is a family friendly park where families go in different directions at all times of the day. We understand each other. I would never do it for every ride, and there are four of us only but I would not feel bad if it happened once a day or if anyone did it to me. I'm happy at Disney. I get it.

You most likely do not feel bad when it is done to you because you do it. This is how it makes me feel because I do not - I feel like a foolish lemming who blindly gets on a line just because it is there while other more enlightened folks merrily go about their day, not bound by silly linear constraints.

I do understand how I feel is my issue. I do not like wasting time and now I feel that I am wasting time waiting in line when there are so many ways around that.

I also feel for the cast members who cannot stop this practice. It puts them in a no win situation when groups ask to be let in the line to meet up with their family. Disney needs to fix this for the safety and enjoyment of others.

I will not put myself in a dangerous situation by confronting this. Someone selfish enough to cut a line to join their family may be selfish enough to make the situation escalate. Not for the cutter's safety and state of mind, but for me, my family, those around me, and the cast member. I will note the time & place and stop by guest services in my own time to discuss the situation.

Deliberate line holding is a selfish practice.

 

[yaddakal]

There's a difference between deliberate line holding and meeting your family in a line because you were at two different places before hand. Oh boy. I think we need to worry about bigger things in life! It may happen 2-3 x in a week long trip and nobody is at the front of the line. I would never stress about this silliness. There are much bigger concerns in life even at Disney than meeting your kids at the back of a line. Really

 

[Nancyg56]

There's a difference between deliberate line holding and meeting your family in a line because you were at two different places before hand. Oh boy. I think we need to worry about bigger things in life! It may happen 2-3 x in a week long trip and nobody is at the front of the line. I would never stress about this silliness. There are much bigger concerns in life even at Disney than meeting your kids at the back of a line. Really

Oh please. It is always different reasons when you are the one who is circumventing the rule. You want to cut in front of people, go ahead, but own that you are no different than the ball team who figured out how to save time and avoid lines. You do not stress because you are the one cutting in front of folks.

When you do this, I am going to let you pass, but I am not going to like it. And I may make a comment. You go ahead and worry about "bigger things", as do the rest of the guests in DIsney. WE all. Have lives outside of this happy place, and we all have 'Bigger things" to think about. Many people who are there have saved fo years, planned fo months, and have left a lot of huge issues behind for their one week get away from whatever they have on their plates, but they will allow you to be more important than they are, because you have decided that there are more important things in life than asking your family to wait at the end of the queue for you.

 

[Easto]

Here is my 2 cents:

1. If a family is waiting in line together and someone has to leave the line (for example a young child needs to use the washroom) I don't have a problem with them re-joining their family. They were already waiting in line and sometimes with kids this happens. Their intention wasn't to skip the line. They got in line to wait like everyone else and had to leave to let a kid use the washroom, etc.

2. In the above scenario if half of the family got in line while the others went to the washroom I don't think it's proper to cut in line to meet up. You were never in line waiting, so I don't think you have any right to skip the line.

3. If you are in a large group and never started in the line you shouldn't push past anyone to get further in the line. If you really really need to ride with your group, the people closer to the front should come back and meet with the people in the back of the group. If they don't want to come back with you, then they aren't that good of friends. If it's a family member and they won't come back to wait with you, then your family sucks and I feel bad for you.

No one likes waiting in line, if they did then FP+ wouldn't be so popular. Every time someone cuts in line that means you are waiting longer.

I do however have a double standard: families vs teenagers (groups) that I won't get into

 

[ChloesDaddy]

There is no rude behavior that can't be rationalized by the offender. All that can reasonably be done is to point it out and hope they do the right thing instead.

 

[Slapshot1188]

There's a difference between deliberate line holding and meeting your family in a line because you were at two different places before hand.

Holding means you were IN line and then had to leave (bathroom etc...) and come back. Having someone from your family get in line and then joining them later so you can intentionally CUT IN FRONT of everyone else is simply selfish and wrong.

Oh please. It is always different reasons when you are the one who is circumventing the rule. You want to cut in front of people, go ahead, but own that you are no different than the ball team who figured out how to save time and avoid lines. You do not stress because you are the one cutting in front of folks.

When you do this, I am going to let you pass, but I am not going to like it. And I may make a comment. You go ahead and worry about "bigger things", as do the rest of the guests in DIsney. WE all. Have lives outside of this happy place, and we all have 'Bigger things" to think about. Many people who are there have saved fo years, planned fo months, and have left a lot of huge issues behind for their one week get away from whatever they have on their plates, but they will allow you to be more important than they are, because you have decided that there are more important things in life than asking your family to wait at the end of the queue for you.

Well said

There is no rude behavior that can't be rationalized by the offender. All that can reasonably be done is to point it out and hope they do the right thing instead.

Absolutely true and you can clearly see that rationalization in areas like this. Their case is always the exception or "it's not quite as bad as (fill in the blank)".

 

[TeresaWen]

There's a difference between deliberate line holding and meeting your family in a line because you were at two different places before hand. Oh boy. I think we need to worry about bigger things in life! It may happen 2-3 x in a week long trip and nobody is at the front of the line. I would never stress about this silliness. There are much bigger concerns in life even at Disney than meeting your kids at the back of a line. Really

I am just curious. What would you consider bad "line behavior"

don't think most of us actually stress about this. Thankfully most Disney Guests are respectful of other's time & space.

 

[piccolopat]

Welcome to my world of working in midtown Manhattan. 10 across on a sidewalk- no problem.

I work midtown as well and you are absolutely right. When a group is walking towards me and taking up the width of the sidewalk, sometimes there is no indication they will yield. I will move as far right as I can but I will NOT move into the street so they can pass. My solution is to simply stop in my tracks. Inevitably, they move around me and I can continue on my way, along with the people behind me.

 

[piccolopat]

Not going to happen.
I have never had an issue and probably never will. I understand when a Mom has to park a stroller and the family is anxious to go on a ride, I would let the Mom meet her party. If it was a group of teenage kids or the boy who was alone and cutting in line that would make me upset and in my opinion (whole other issue).

So I will continue to let my kids go before me.

If you want to let you kids get on line before you, fine. When you get there, go to the back of the line.

 

[Sinderelly]

Before reading this thread I thought Disney had a rule against line cutting. I even thought they tried to enforce it. My naivety is showing

 

[piccolopat]

I have definitely had my husband stand in line for a character while I wait in another with my kids. It doesn't add time to the line.
We have gotten to rides with long lines as a family and 10 mins in my child has had to use the bathroom... or the kids complain about being hot or thirsty and I've hopped out to grab them ice cream or drinks or popsicles or water bottles that we left in the stroller. Sorry if someone finds that obnoxious. I would never think twice seeing anyone else do the same.

See, this is where people have different opinions of what is fair. IMHO, if your kids want to see a character, they should get in line behind everyone who was already there waiting. Just because you are a two parent household doesn't give your kids the right to wait less time than other kids just because your DH gets on line and then allows them to cut in.

Once in a line, most people don't have a problem if a parent of a young child needs to take them out for a quick bathroom break. However in my family, if my DD wanted a drink or snack she either waited until after the ride or she knew we were going to the back of the line. She inevitably decided to wait until after the ride. As a parent, I was also always prepared with a small water bottle and a couple of granola bars.

 

[yaddakal]

See, this is where people have different opinions of what is fair. IMHO, if your kids want to see a character, they should get in line behind everyone who was already there waiting. Just because you are a two parent household doesn't give your kids the right to wait less time than other kids just because your DH gets on line and then allows them to cut in.

Once in a line, most people don't have a problem if a parent of a young child needs to take them out for a quick bathroom break. However in my family, if my DD wanted a drink or snack she either waited until after the ride or she knew we were going to the back of the line. She inevitably decided to wait until after the ride. As a parent, I was also always prepared with a small water bottle and a couple of granola bars.

No worries I'm not going to follow this anymore as it has gotten out of hand. Things got so twisted. We have been there multiple
Times and I would say we have met up like how I said less than a handful of times in past 10 yrs....At the BACK of the line like
I said when other families were doing exact same thing. Never have I ever cut a line where I was zooming past families. I have never just cut. The original
Post was about a large group
And I was just showing another side of families. I'm not going to be hurt anymore by these remarks. I am an open person and was only showing other thoughts. Honestly I have been here for years and never felt this way. Sorry for those who I offended by showing another side.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

So I will continue to let my kids go before me.

My kids wouldn't even think to try this! We've been going to WDW 1-3 times a year since DS11 was 15mos old. Our rule has always been that we get in line once we're all together.

If we split up and DH & DS get to our next ride first, they either wait for us, or ride it just the two of them together and we meet up later.

Wouldn't occur to any of us at this point to do it any differently. And no one feels like they're being put upon to just wait a few minutes.