Liars and stirring the pot

[bumbershoot]

I have seen no evidence that evil-doers get what is coming to them.

So yeah, still waiting for karma to kick in....

I look at what happened to me versus what happened to the liars and I wonder why the heck I don't start lying. When there are no consequences and there are actually rewards -- HUGE rewards -- for lying, you start to feel like a chump for being honest.

If you truly believe in karma, then you might think that what you have gone through is a lesson. Perhaps a lesson in noting that this is only 2 people (plus a kid) who have lied, not everyone in your life.

MIL, who is Korean Buddhist, has now started realizing, with the help of her monks, that the bad stuff that has happened to her in this life could very well be because of bad stuff her soul did in a past life. That has really helped her.

So if you really believe in karma, and not just as insta-karma where a thief falls in a hole after running away, that might be helpful for you.



To the OP, hubby was a liar for no reason. He knows when he started; it was when his mother and father decided he was a liar at a very young age. He was punished because they didn't believe him, and could only get out of the punishment by admitting that he did the infraction. Another person with other parents might have stood their ground, but he gave in, and right then (at about age 6) he decided that if he was going to be punished for lying when he didn't lie, he might as well lie.

By the time I knew him, it was watered down to lie when it was expedient. In his family of birth, to be found out later was just as big a punishment as to be found out immediately. So he just put off the punishment, because there was always the chance they wouldn't find out. Got a B instead of an A? Lie, even though the report cards were coming soon. Won't be punished now, will be punished later, but maybe they'll forget. etc.

I think we've mainly kicked his habit, and I can see through it when he does it now, b/c it's like there are blank spots in the story and him (weird but it's true), like I can literally see through him...so I don't worry about it anymore.

 

[freepixie]

What I can't stand are the people who lie in order to get another person into trouble... been on the recieving end of that more than once at work from a sociopathic liar on staff. Luckily my supervisor knows this and once she calls to ask me about certain "incidents" this person is calling in, and I explain what really happened, no trouble falls on me. However a coworker of mine has been really in trouble due to this one person's lies.

And when we called Ms. Liar on it, she said we were intimidating her and threatening her and wanted a meeting called! Our supervisor had enough of her poop and said no meeting, that we were following chain of command!

 

[TomLovesBecky]

If you truly believe in karma, then you might think that what you have gone through is a lesson. Perhaps a lesson in noting that this is only 2 people (plus a kid) who have lied, not everyone in your life.

MIL, who is Korean Buddhist, has now started realizing, with the help of her monks, that the bad stuff that has happened to her in this life could very well be because of bad stuff her soul did in a past life. That has really helped her.
So if you really believe in karma, and not just as insta-karma where a thief falls in a hole after running away, that might be helpful for you.



To the OP, hubby was a liar for no reason. He knows when he started; it was when his mother and father decided he was a liar at a very young age. He was punished because they didn't believe him, and could only get out of the punishment by admitting that he did the infraction. Another person with other parents might have stood their ground, but he gave in, and right then (at about age 6) he decided that if he was going to be punished for lying when he didn't lie, he might as well lie.

By the time I knew him, it was watered down to lie when it was expedient. In his family of birth, to be found out later was just as big a punishment as to be found out immediately. So he just put off the punishment, because there was always the chance they wouldn't find out. Got a B instead of an A? Lie, even though the report cards were coming soon. Won't be punished now, will be punished later, but maybe they'll forget. etc.

I think we've mainly kicked his habit, and I can see through it when he does it now, b/c it's like there are blank spots in the story and him (weird but it's true), like I can literally see through him...so I don't worry about it anymore.

WHAT??????????????????????????????????????????????? OMG that is one of the craziest things I've ever seen on this board. If people lie to you then you deserve it because you were a really bad person in a previous life?? That's sick. I also can't believe you married a known liar and are okay with it now because you mostly catch him doing it, but whatever.

 

[Pikester]

Before I start my story I'd like to ask everyone who reads this if they have seen the internet joke that has been circling around for a while now. It's about a woman who has a OBGYN appt and she uses a washcloth sitting on the sink that morning to "freshen up." The OBGYN comments on her jazzing things up down there and she just figures "OK. Whatever". When she gets home her daughter is all upset because someone took her glitter that was in the "wash cloth" on the sink.

I'd like to share an incident that happened where I work. I sub at my sons school and one of the para educators and I have become friendly. I feel comfortable around her when I have to work in the same room that she is in and that just makes my day go better. Whenever we have a down period we often talk about what is going on in our lives and our kids lives. I never really thought about it but I figured whatever she is telling me is true. Well, one day I was working and we happened to get on the subject of shaving legs and I said something about when I was pregnant I wouldn't have the energy to shave my legs and figured the OBGYN could just deal with it. She then starts to tell me about the time she went to the OBGYN and tells me the entire above mentioned story as if it really happened to her!

I didn't know what to do. I didn't want to embarrass her by telling her I had heard that before. Now I feel that I can't believe anything that she says. Not long after that she started telling me about her new boyfriend and how wonderful he is with her girls. That he owns a restuarant in FL. He flies a plane and wanted to take her to NY for the weekend.

Hmmmm. True? Not True? I guess I'll never know.

 

[AristocatFan]

A woman I work with is well known for her 'stories.' She has a way of putting her own spin on events, things about people, etc. She also is always the victim of something. When I first met her, I felt sorry for her. But then, when I figured out the out right lies she would tell, I realized all the things that keeps happening to her could very well be her own doing. Things like her house flooding, car got vandalized, fell and broke her shoulder, furnace went out during the coldest of winter, lost her work keys, etc. Maybe her lies and unfortunate events have nothing to do with each other, but I believe they do and ultimately there's only one person she'll have to answer to. That is if she makes it to the pearly gates.