Legally, it's questionable. Morally, disgusting. Personally, I like it.

[granmanh603]

That's not even a question to me - I don't list the people in the room unless they need a key card. For years I altered birthday's so much Disney thought I had 6 kids (ticket prices!) - not 3. My son stayed 18 for about 3 years

Pre-DVC, I'll never forget the operator who said to me, Mrs. B your son has been 18 forever. I think it's time we let him grow up and have a beer. Loved it. She made paying the extra adult charge in the room bearable.

I find it creepy that Disney is keeping track of your(our) childrens ages!!!! Why do they need to do that....what else do they know about us? Probably that I am writing this post????

 

[CarolMN]

I don't see why it matters or why you even want to do it.

As Dean said, if you get the Dining Plan, you will pay for 5 adults and 3 children. You will have the same number of dining credits no matter which way you list the occupants (MIL & niece are both adults for the DP). You will only be able to use the DDP credits for 5 adults and 3 children at the same meal. You will have to pay OOP for the others if you all dine together.

With your plan, certainly you can figure out who pays for the "extra" adult without changing who is listed in a particular room.

If you only want to pay for 4 adults and 3 children, then you would have to list 2 adults and one child in the studio, which is still allowed. Studios sleep 4 so no problem doing that. (Assuming the studio occupants are not paying for the dining plan). However, then you will only be able to pay for 4 adults and 3 children with the DP credits at any one meal. I don't see a problem if you want to do it that way. No one cares who sleeps in what room (except for you probably, lol) as long as you do not exceed the occupancy for either room.

 

[TDC Nala]

This is what I thought upon first reading it. So long as they are not exceeding capacity in either room, they can register people in whichever room and have them sleep in whichever room they want. Just so long as they do not use DDP to buy more meals at one sitting than they have people actually on the dining plan.

If the MIL wants the dining plan it is likely they want her to have a key card that has dining credits on it, in case they are not always eating together, while the 20 and 10 year old won't have dining credits. Which is the reason they want to switch the MIL with the 10 year old.

 

[brettcw23]

The price would be the same, just who's name and who's paying for it. I'm sure you know all credits will be pooled. You could just leave it as is and pay for it yourself and make sure they don't use more credits than they pay for. You could also leave the 2 in the studio and move the 10 y/o there as well getting less credits and having less guests on the plan. Philosophically I have a lot less issue moving someone to the room to get the dining than I do moving someone out of the room to avoid the cost. I also suspect you'd save a lot more with the TIW than the DDP as long as you're not planning the CS plan.

i am uber scared about breaking rules at Disney for fear of retribution
I fear that if we step outside of the lines they'll strip us of our DVC membership and possibly make us give up our first born!

When I had spoken to the CM months ago, they mentioned that each person can have the DDP charged to their credit card.

So I know that the numbers do not change in regard to whom is paying for the meal plan and how many people are staying in a room. And honestly, had the price not jumped from $15 for my niece to $53, everyone would probably just get it without any debate. But the reality is that my niece just isn't a big eater and to pay $350 for her for the week is a definite loss.

So I know if you remove the names from the process, we end up with 2 people not having a DDP.

But at least if I have the rooms set up according to the DDP, then everyone will be able to present their card legitimately at restaurants and snack spots.

In regard to TIW, that would be the best bet economically. The downside is that I would pay for every meal and then have to track down what the other 6 family members owe me. That's just not worth the headache. Once one of my girls hits the adult rate for the DDP, we'll def go that way...maybe even sooner.

The kick in the shins is that the folks that aren't getting the DDP are still going to have to pay for the pricey meals OOP...and ~$3\snack!

We do a solid 5 character meals, so you can see where the price adds up. Seems like the cost savings for the non-DDP family members will be negligible!

Good think I love my wife's family, huh?

So then looking at letter of the law versus spirit of the law, Disney really could care less about putting a name to a face as long as no one is cheating by sharing food and such.

 

[rentayenta]

I'm totally missing what is wrong with the OPs plan. Where's the disgusting moral issue?

 

[brettcw23]

This is what I thought upon first reading it. So long as they are not exceeding capacity in either room, they can register people in whichever room and have them sleep in whichever room they want. Just so long as they do not use DDP to buy more meals at one sitting than they have people actually on the dining plan.

If the MIL wants the dining plan it is likely they want her to have a key card that has dining credits on it, in case they are not always eating together, while the 20 and 10 year old won't have dining credits. Which is the reason they want to switch the MIL with the 10 year old.

You summarized tht much better than me actually!
Yes, we may at times split up, so it's pertinent that the right folks have the DDP on their cards.

 

[TDC Nala]

If you're going to go to a lot of character meals and fixed price restaurants you should look into getting the dining plan for everyone, as your niece will still pay the full adult prices for those, even if she eats very little. I take it that it is the niece's family that is insisting that they will not pay for DDP for her. They may wish they had when they start paying adult prices OOP for all those character meals.

Where's the disgusting moral issue?

He clarified that he was using a somewhat obscure quote from "Beauty and the Beast" as his title and there isn't necessarily a disgusting moral issue.

 

[dbs1228]

I would do it in a heart beat! Been on cruises many time where I was listed in the trple room and DD was listed with DH because you had to have 18yr old room - we were always next door, even connecting rooms at times but DH and I for sure were in the double and 3 DD's in the triple. We got extra room keys (which we have done at dwd) for each others room also. Have fun!

 

[Anal Annie]

I don't think it's a big deal at all. People do this stuff on cruises all the time when they book 2 cabins. You HAVE to book at least 1 adult in each cabin so technically the parents are booked in 2 separate cabins...but then the sleeping arrangements are such that the Mom & Dad have a cabin & the kiddos have their own cabin... I'm sure DCL is not blind to the fact that this occurs daily.

 

[brettcw23]

So I guess my next question on the topic is, can you have a KTTK that works for 2 different rooms?

 

[Dean]

So then looking at letter of the law versus spirit of the law, Disney really could care less about putting a name to a face as long as no one is cheating by sharing food and such.

The spirit and the letter really are the same in this situation as I understand it. It's just the enforcement that is at issue and IMO, that's up to Disney. The problem with DVC and the DP is that larger units often present just your situation AND that it's more likely for people to come and go or to make last minute decisions on whether they will be attending or not. What if one family wanted it and the other didn't at all. That and the 48 hour ahead requirement really do make it a catch 22 at times.

So I guess my next question on the topic is, can you have a KTTK that works for 2 different rooms?

I don't know, I know in the past it was possible but since the upgrade I haven't seen anything about this. What you can do is get extra keys if you need to but they won't be valid for charging or the DP even though they will list the DP on them for the room in question.

 

[BirdsOfPreyDave]

Looks like you're paying for 5 adult and 3 child dining plans in either case. So long as the two people listed as being in the studio aren't eating any DDP meals, you're not breaking any rules at all.

 

[Dean]

Looks like you're paying for 5 adult and 3 child dining plans in either case. So long as the two people listed as being in the studio aren't eating any DDP meals, you're not breaking any rules at all.

Technically they are because Disney requires you to be listed in the room of occupancy and for each in the room to have the DDP. Not such as issue with kids who may be back and forth between rooms anyway but it's unlikely an adult would do the same very often. I know this is the strictest sense but your post was absolute.

 

[dzorn]

Mind you, I'm not in favor of doing this as I don't make it a habit of breaking rules.

And in reality, the cost that they'll save by doing this isn't much b\c of our meals, several will be buffet or fixed price (Crystal Palace, Akershus breakfast, 1900 Park Fare, Cindy's Royal Table, Tusker House breakfast....etc.)

I am also considering Table in Wonderland b\c it'll save us 20% but then I have to pay for it all and have them reimburse me for their share+tax+gratuity which seems like a logistical nightmare to me.

They will be paying the Adult price on the fixed price menues so I doubt they will be saving anything at all.

Do they realize the cost of just those meals? Breakfast at Akershus is 39.50

Denise in MI

 

[DVC Jen]

This might sound really cold but honestly..... why would anyone on here care if you do that? And if someone cares so much and gets so bent out of shape - man oh man I want to switch my worries with theirs because I have so much else on my plate to really be concerned with something so trivial.

Go for it... do what works best for you and your family and have a wonderful time.

 

[dvc at last !]

The way to go is getting the TIW and saving 20%
on food and drinks !

 

[BigEeyore]

I think what you are doing is fine! No worries.
This might be one of the best thread titles ever! I did not get the Beauty and the Beast reference - even though we have watched the movie 100 times!

 

[DizGirl20]

The way to go is getting the TIW and saving 20%
on food and drinks !

AGREED!!!!

 

[brettcw23]

AGREED!!!!

Yep, not debating TIW being the best bet. The issue with it is me having to calcuate what the other 6 people owe me for their meals\tax\gratutity and then them paying me. Way too much of a hassle.