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I thought this was a very well thought out statement made by Ben Stein. I normally dont post things like this for fear of beign bashed, but it really made me smile to see someone who is on the other side of the spectrum from me say somthing that so wrap's up the way I feel. I actually recieved this as an e-mail from a good friend.




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The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.

Herewith a few confessions from my beating heart:
I have no freaking clue who Nick and Jessica are.
I see them on the cover of People and Us constantly when I am buying my dog biscuits and kitty litter. I often ask the checkers at the grocery stores.
They never know who Nick and Jessica are either. Who are they?
Will it change my life if I know who they are and why they have broken up? Why are they so important?

I don't know who Lindsay Lohan is either, and I do not care at all about Tom Cruise's wife.

Am I going to be called before a Senate committee and asked if I am a subversive? Maybe, but I just have no clue who Nick and Jessica are.

If this is what it means to be no longer young, it's not so bad.

Next confession:
I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are: Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, "Merry Christmas" to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getti ng ready to put me in a ghetto... In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu . If people want a creche; it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution, and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship Nick and Jessica and we aren't allowed to worship God as we understand Him?

I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too.
< BR>But there are a lot of us who are wondering where Nick and Jessica came from and where the America we knew went to

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could God let something like e this Happen?" (regarding Katrina)

Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.

And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?"

In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it s tarted when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK.

Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."

Funny how simple it is for people to tra sh God and then wonder why the world's going to hell.

Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.

Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.

Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in.

My Best Regards .. honestly and respectfully,
Ben Stein
 
The part from "In light of the many jokes . . . " up to the end is not part of the original Ben Stein piece.
Snopes link here.
 
Oh your kidding!!! :blush: Well, sorry for wasting time.
 
Billy Graham's daughter made those comments after Sept. 11 not Katrina - although it's a disgusting sentiment in either case. God lets people die because we don't have state-mandated school prayer?


The part that is Ben Stein's original piece makes perfect sense - and happens to concur with what I've always said - there isn't a Jew in the world who isn't perfectly aware of the existence of Christmas, and all the symbols and accoutrements thereof. It's silly and patronizing to assume that we have to cover them up for fear of offending.

Although it's just as silly, and hyperbolic to declare that if we can't say "Christmas Tree" the birth of Jesus suddenly loses all meaning.

Anyway, the rest of that email is just a bunch of garbage, IMO.
 

I've seen this before, and while I'm loathe to blame Katrina and other disasters on the expulsion of God from the public sector, I do agree with a great deal of it.

I find it interesting that many of the people I work with could tell me who the American Idol is and who was on the Bachelor but couldn't pick a Supreme Court Justice out of a lineup.

There's a commercial out now for the Sopranos DVD that has the viewer answer questions about the characters and then throws a question in about a relative. The end assumes that the viewer knows more about the Sopranos than they do about their own family. That just makes me sad.
 
va32h said:
Billy Graham's daughter made those comments after Sept. 11 not Katrina - although it's a disgusting sentiment in either case. God lets people die because we don't have state-mandated school prayer?



Actually this was the part of the whole e-mail that made me a little hesitant to post. The first half of the e-mail was really what I wanted to share. I always forget about Snopes I should have done my research first. I would have left out the last part of the e-mail.
 
Fitswimmer said:
There's a commercial out now for the Sopranos DVD that has the viewer answer questions about the characters and then throws a question in about a relative. The end assumes that the viewer knows more about the Sopranos than they do about their own family. That just makes me sad.



Wow, really? I havent seen it yet. That is sad :guilty:
 

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