Just emailed customer relations

[phorsenuf]

No wonder Disney has people on these boards. They must think we are wackos.

Hopefully they read all the replies to see we are not all little red hens.

 

[maxiesmom]

Counting down the time till this thread is closed down. Also counting down 4 days until my trip. I will be sure to wear a full body condom.

That will be mighty handy on Spash Mountain, don't you think?

 

[DizzKneeGeek]

I love mass hysteria. Seems anybody will get on board with it these days.

overtaking the parks?
only at wdw?
reimburse me for being sick?
puke everywhere?
vomit not being cleaned up?

people get sick...everywhere...not just wdw. for some reason everything associated with wdw is sensationalized with the: 'i heard from somebody who heard from their sister who was a cast member' routine.

my wife got sick at wdw...was it wdw's fault?...highly unlikely. you get that many people together from every single walk of life and numerous countries; and there WILL BE SICKNESSS. period...unavoidable. i'll take resposibility for me and mine. i don't need anybody else to do it for me.

i don't need somebody to tell me to wash my hands and i don't need wdw to close down and extra sanitize everything everytime somebody gets sick. i realize this would do absolutely no good.

because all it takes is one more person from outside the parks to walk in with some sort of virus or bacteria and we're back to step one again. the parks would be eternally closed. then people would have something else to be up in arms about.

go to disney, be safe, take care of yourself while you are there and realize that sometimes, no matter what you do to protect yourself, sickness can and will invade you.

stop the hysteria

 

[TDC Nala]

That will be mighty handy on Spash Mountain, don't you think?

Yeah, they should distribute them before you get on the ride, but also warn the riders that the only way to completely prevent getting wet is to abstain from the ride.

 

[jarrdisney]

Yeah, they should distribute them before you get on the ride, but also warn the riders that the only way to completely prevent getting wet is to abstain from the ride.

LOL. Atleast we can thank the OP for a good laugh or two today. Without this asinine post I would not have all this entertainment here at work.

 

[Fitswimmer]

I don't think anyone was really trying to be mean, I think we were all trying to inject some rationality. If you are that afraid of getting sick that you think a major public attraction should shut down for disinfecting when more than one protien spill occurs, then you should stay in your house and have NO contact with the outside world. When it comes to vacations, you pay your money and you take your chances. Most of us book MONTHS in advance hoping that everything will be ok. Lots of things can go wrong between the day we book and the day we go-people on this board have lost loved ones, had major health events and been caught in hurricanes on vacation. You can buy trip insurance to make sure you aren't out the money, but there is only so much Disney can do to protect you from every negative event that you might encounter.

 

[mysparky]

We were there for Thanksgiving week and none of us got sick. I have to agree with another poster who mentioned that s/he was glad that they didn't know about the virus beforehand. I didn't know about it either and we just practiced what we always practice in any public place:

a) we always washed our hands prior to meals (and I also noticed the signs describing proper washing methods)
b) if we going to have a snack, but weren't near a restroom to wash, we used our sanitizing wipes
c) we all took airborne before we got on the plan because I personally believe that's one of the best ways to catch a virus!

There was only one thing that kind of grossed me out when we were there and I thought to myself "ya know, that just seems pretty unsanitary". We ate lunch at the Columbia Harbor House (MK) and a CM was wiping down all of the previous used tables. Rather than apply a sanitizing spray and then a cloth, she was simply using the same old lukewarm cloth to wipe down table after table. Seemed pretty gross to me and a surefire way to transfer all things gross (haven't we all see the shows on "48 hours" about filthy wash rags?). What did I do? Took out 3 of my sanitizing wipes and wiped down our table. Probably not the best alternative, but it seemed better than nothing.

 

[sandicinderelli]

If they put a large bottle of Purrell stationed at the buffet's and entrances to TS's and had a CM stand there and ask people to use it before they touch the common utensils, salt & pepper shakes, etc, it would help. If they were more diligent in wiping down tables and chairs with sanitizer. and made Purrell available to their cashiers, all food distributors, had extra cleaning and sanitizing in the bathrooms to clean up after everyone who is not wiping down the seat or floor when they vomit or what have you, they could definetly curb the amount of cross contamination. Also, if they would sanitize the bedspreads and be a bit more diligent in the cleaning of rooms, etc. Wipe down railings and such this all would help.

I'm not trying to overreact.

I'm very sorry, but you are overreacting - majorly. How can you expect CMs to add those duties to their already hectic job description and Disney still operate effectively and efficiently? That is not rational thinking.

stop the hysteria

Thank you, Dizz. 3daughters, please take Dizz's advice!

 

[maxiesmom]

My family was at Disney for 8 days in October. I packed both wipes and Purell. We never used them. But guess what? Not one of the 7 of us got sick either. Maybe after our yearly trips to see Mickey we have become immune too.

 

[lovethattink]

There was only one thing that kind of grossed me out when we were there and I thought to myself "ya know, that just seems pretty unsanitary". We ate lunch at the Columbia Harbor House (MK) and a CM was wiping down all of the previous used tables. Rather than apply a sanitizing spray and then a cloth, she was simply using the same old lukewarm cloth to wipe down table after table. Seemed pretty gross to me and a surefire way to transfer all things gross (haven't we all see the shows on "48 hours" about filthy wash rags?). What did I do? Took out 3 of my sanitizing wipes and wiped down our table. Probably not the best alternative, but it seemed better than nothing.

Yep. Seen this over and over again at Columbia Harbour House, and yet I keep eating there. We bring the Chlorox wipes and wipe down our own table and high chair. That Starboard sandwich and cup of clam chowder keep beckoning me back.

 

[Gerweniel]

Disney has reminders in the ladies room lest we forget the proper way to wash up. I got a kick out of these posted above the sinks. Hehe.

 

[3daughters]

My very last post on this subject. And, one word about me. I am sooooo not a confrontational person and never thought I'd be so attacked on this board, which I really find disheartening and I think I have posted my last and final post unless I feel it is critical to the quality of my trip. I never intended this to be a heated thread and to those of you that made it that, I really think you need to get off your computer and do some charitable work to bring your life back into perspective! I never personally attacked anyone, the post was not in any way harmful or hurtful, yet many of the responses were quite nasty to say the least.

If you want to fight over the symantics of my original post then so be it, my apologies. When I said "epidemic proportions" I meant so it wouldn't become that - not that it was!!! My apologies again for any misunderstanding or mis communications which I think were generally a bit of twisting of words by other posters.

The point is there was according to my DH's follow co-workers an extraordinary amount of sickness was witnessed and many had caught. When I said in my post "all that went to the park" I was asked if it were those not at the park or those that did, my answer meant those that went, not those that remained at the conference, I didn't mean to imply that every one that went to the park got sick, but according to the "reports" many did, symantics again, my apologies.
If they were embellishing, my apologies, but this is what he heard from grown educated people that he well respects. The reason my DH heard all this was because he was in a meeting with almost the entire group of those that just returned. (the returned on Friday) Now DH said he sat there listening to these horror stories without asking questions and sitting in panic since we are set to go in January. In fact, he said once the meeting started he didn't hear much about the actual conference because his head was buzzing from "puke" stories. And, my DH is not one to embellish stories.

My point once again, that some have reiterated. There has been a bug going around and yes letting Disney know is a good thing, just like someone who mentioned having their room cleaned because their child had the chicken pox, if they didn't tell anyone no one would have ever known. Tell that to the pregnant women who comes in next (chicken pox can cause birth defects if the mother gets it while she's pregnant). Point made people, I hope so.

As I also mentioned before. Email if you WISH to DON"T if you DON'T want to I wasn't forcing anyone!!!

If everyone were less critical and thought about the idea of getting sick on a vacation you've been waiting for, for possibly months, with savings you saved for, for possibly years, you would see the VALUE in the post.

This was and still is not intended to make any of you irate! It was just to be informative and to understand that actions make change. Knowledge is power, ignorance is not always bliss. Letting Disney know before it gets worse or what have you was the point. Yes, I still firmly believe they could do better as someone posted regarding the difference between their cruise experience and the park. Putting Purrell at a food station or cleaning the rooms a bit better than usual will NOT hurt anyone and will not put Disney over the edge with their budget. Disney has emergency funds, it has nothing to do with "deep pocket myths," it has to do with they have contingency funds for these type of situations and large corporations like Disney have these to pay for extra man hours, and if it's considered an emergency situation their CPA will follow the tax laws and it will become tax deductible.

So please let's all put this to bed. Wash your hands if you want, don't if you don't, send and email if you want, don't if you don't, but please stop fighting over this subject, it's really getting quite ridiculous!

 

[SWHorn]

Well, this thread has reminded me to be sure to bring wipes and plenty of sanitizer. The last thing I want to do is get sick at WDW. No, the last thing I want to do is cancel my trip in fear of getting sick at WDW. I'll just hope and pray that everything goes well, and I'll have a fun trip. That's just about all you can do, right?

 

[BuzzandAriel'smom]

Okay I'll bite... I am most likely one of the most paranoid people when it comes to getting the stomach bug. If I know someone who has it or their kid has it I will avoid them like the plague, literally not seeing them for weeks. Is this rational? No. Does it make me feel like I have some ounce of control? Yes. I Purell after the grocery, after touching money, after pumping gas and after every ride or rail touching at Disney. I sprayed down our room with clorox anywhere spray that I shipped to the resort ahead of time so it would be there when we landed.

Is this extreme? Of course. And if I were headed to Disney in the next few weeks and I heard about this then I would probably at least send an email to find out if they will be taking extra measures to clean it up. Now I realize that they could just tell me yes and then do nothing but at least I would feel like I did something to try and prevent my family from becoming ill even if it doesn't work.

I saw a man puking into the trees at AK in October and I instantly whipped out my purell and covered me and my kids in it. Are those the actions of a rational human being? Nope but it made me feel somewhat protected.

Everyone who posted has valid points but the bottom line is we all have to do what is right for our own families. If you are a control freak like me then you will slather yourself in Purell, pop a few Airborne, swab your nose with Zicam and hope that it works. If you're more of a free spirit and have a "whatever happens happens" then I'm sure all of this seems ridiculous.

 

[jarrdisney]

My very last post on this subject. And, one word about me. I am sooooo not a confrontational person and never thought I'd be so attacked on this board, which I really find disheartening. I never intended this to be a heated thread!
If you want to fight over the symantics of my original post then so be it, my apologies.

The point is there was according to my DH's follow co-workers and extraordinary amount of sickness that they witnessed and many had caught. When I said in my post "all that went to the park" I was asked if it were those not at the park or those that did, my answer meant those that went, not those that remained at the conference, I didn't mean to imply that every one that went to the park got sick, but according to the "reports" many did, symantics again, my apologies.
If they were embellishing, my apologies, but this is what he heard from grown educated people that he well respects. The reason my DH heard all this was because he was in a meeting with almost the entire group of those that just returned. (the returned on Friday) Now DH said he sat there listening to these horror stories without asking questions and sitting in panic since we are set to go in January. In fact, he said once the meeting started he didn't hear much about the actual conference because his head was buzzing from "puke" stories.

My point once again, that some have reiterated. There has been a bug going around and yes letting Disney know is a good thing, just like someone who mentioned having their room cleaned because their child had the chicken pox, if they didn't tell anyone no one would have ever known. Tell that to the pregnant women who comes in next (chicken pox can cause birth defects if the mother gets it while she's pregnant). Point made people, I hope so.

As I also mentioned before. Email if you WISH to DON"T if you DON'T want to I wasn't forcing anyone!!!

If everyone were less critical and thought about the idea of getting sick on a vacation you've been waiting for, for possibly months, with savings you saved for, for possibly years, you would see the VALUE in the post.

This was and still is not intended to make any of you irate! It was just to be informative and to understand that actions make change. Knowledge is power, ignorance is not always bliss. Letting Disney know before it gets worse or what have you was the point. Yes, I still firmly believe they could do better as someone posted regarding the difference between their cruise experience and the park. Putting Purrell at a food station or cleaning the rooms a bit better than usual will NOT hurt anyone and will not put Disney over the edge with their budget.

So please let's all put this to bed. Wash your hands if you want, don't if you don't, send and email if you want, don't if you don't, but please stop fighting over this subject, it's really getting quite ridiculous!

Here's some choice words and phrases that got you in trouble.

"overtaking the park"
"out of control"
"eradicate the problem"
shut down"
"this can go on for months and months"
"epidemic proportions"

and the one word that makes the most sense that you used, "overreact"
I onyl bother to post because we don't need the fear mongering. Our current administration already does a great job of that for us.

 

[mttafire]

Here's some choice words and phrases that got you in trouble.

"overtaking the park"
"out of control"
"eradicate the problem"
shut down"
"this can go on for months and months"
"epidemic proportions"
Agreed!!
I just still dont understand why shy e mailed Disney to begin with.
WAY overreation to a simple bug that hits everywhere. Sometimes people just need more to do. Im not trying to be mean BUT this was ridiculous to have all this worry. We cant live in a bubble.

 

[Cass]

Great, I'm heading to WDW in 9 days... by then there will be legionnaires disease in the hot tubs too

 

[Luv Bunnies]

I've read all of the above posts and here is my take on this subject.

Anytime you get a lot of people together in one place, you're bound to see at least a few people who are sick. Whether it be colds, flu or stomach bugs, the fact is that people get sick. Unfortunately, those illnesses don't know to wait until after vacation. They pop whenever they want to.

If you see someone throwing up in a park, it doesn't mean there's an epidemic. It means that person is sick. Stay away from them and whatever mess they have made. Like everyone else has said many times: wash your hands. Don't touch you eyes, nose or mouth. Use hand sanitizer and hand wipes frequently.

Above all: Use Common Sense!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gina]

Just a clarification -- it's likely not rotavirus that's going around, as was previously posted, but a norwalk-type virus. Norwalk-type viral illnesses are what are very common especially this time of year whenever you get people gathered in one place such as a school, daycare, cruise ship, etc. Rotavirus is a lot more serious, and generally does not affect adults. My DS got rotavirus when he was a year old, and was hospitalized for almost a week.

Here's hoping for a nice, healthy trip for anyone going soon! (Like us! )

-gina-

 

[Talking Hands]

It is their responsibility to take extra steps! This is company that grosses t billions every year with their top execs earning millions and then receiving many millions more in bonuses every year. Yes they can afford the extra man hours without a thought. My DH has worked in big business all his life and can tell you there is a ton of extra money in this corporation, do they always want to spend it, no, but they absolutely can afford to and have contingency accounts that are quite significant. His CEO that is not in a super major corporation like Disney made an 11 million dollar bonus last year. In working in a hospital I can tell you there are many steps that can be taken. It's desire and effort!

I don't see that it is Disney's responsibility to stop this virus. You could well have brought it from home. How do they control that. It is your responsibility to take steps to avoid getting the virus. Good hand washing with soap and water and plain old friction gets rid of more germs than any hand sanitizer can. Not going out when you are sick and exposing other people. It is not airborne but a contact born disease so take your own precautions.
Btw since my grandbaby is allergic to the hand soap used by Disney we bring our own soap to use. We also bring hand sanitizer but I rarely use it preferring to wash my hands with soap and water. Hand santizer is false security as far as I am concerned. I've noticed that they are using hand santizer between patients in the hospital now. I request they actually wash their hands before touching me including my doctors. No washee, no touchee.