Josie Brooklyn Duggar

[Pembo]

On a lighter note - I'm curious how people from around the country are pronouncing her name - Josie. We have a Josie in the family and we say it "JOE-see." I've heard others though pronounce it with more of a "Z" sound - like "JOE-zee." I haven't heard any of the Duggars themselves say her name yet, so I'm curious!

I say it with an /s/ sound only because I knew a little Josephine who was JoSie for short.

 

[princessmom29]

and it's extremely obvious that there are some here who simply do not want to admit or choose not to believe that there are actually a lot of very loving, strong Christian families with happy, healthy thriving children, simply because they can't get past some sort of childhood trauma they experienced.

I really find some of these posts about the Duggars absolutely appalling.

I will not return to this thread. False accusations of child abuse by people who presume to know everything about a family they've never met truly disgusts me and turns my stomach.

I don't recall ever saying that strong loving christian families don't exist?????? How in the world did you get that from my posts??? Talk about putting words into someone's mouth!!! I NEVER said that. I am part of a stong loving christian home. I am raising my chil to have christian values. There are many more good than bad, but bad ones DO exist. The Duggar children exhibit all the classic signs of children trapped in one of these. That is all I am trying to say here, NOT that all chriatian homes are necessarily abusive. From the perspective of someone who has seen it before the behavior of those children raise red flags all over the place for me. The hair on the back of my neck stood up the first time I heard them speak. No I cannot be 100% sure that they are being abused, but if it walks like duck, quacks like a duck, 99% of the time is is a duck. There are just too many red flags here for me to ignore it.

 

[jodifla]

There are many of us who don't think the Duggars are standard bearers of a decent, Christian home. We are certainly not saying those homes don't exist.

The power of TV and celebrity is certainly amazing.

 

[SarahKate]

princessmom....can you please just let it go and move on? Their lifestyle isn't impacting you personally, is it? You do your thing, let them do their thing. This thread is about their newest child, can't we just keep it on that subject??? We know how you feel about this situation, as you've expressed over and over and over. It's like a broken record.

 

[princessmom29]

princessmom....can you please just let it go and move on? Their lifestyle isn't impacting you personally, is it? You do your thing, let them do their thing. This thread is about their newest child, can't we just keep it on that subject??? We know how you feel about this situation, as you've expressed over and over and over. It's like a broken record.

Sorry, but I cannot just keep quiet anytime children are being mistreated. It is just not in my nature to stand by and let it happen. If enough people are made aware that it is going on mabye public pressure can do something about it. Apparently it has already made them think about and change some of the things they are doing. I am also the type to speak up when I see a mom slap her kid across the face in public. Mabye I am making her think about what she is doing just a little and she will be less likely to do it next time. I just cannot stand by and watch a child hurt. It hurts me too much to see it. So I will continue to speak out whenever I see it, and keep saying it until soemone pays attention. Children are too precious not to.

 

[Millermom0606]

Sorry, but I cannot just keep quiet anytime children are being mistreated. It is just not in my nature to stand by and let it happen. If enough people are made aware that it is going on mabye public pressure can do something about it. Apparently it has already made them think about and change some of the things they are doing. I am also the type to speak up when I see a mom slap her kid across the face in public. Mabye I am making her think about what she is doing just a little and she will be less likely to do it next time. I just cannot stand by and watch a child hurt. It hurts me too much to see it. So I will continue to speak out whenever I see it, and keep saying it until soemone pays attention. Children are too precious not to.

And exactly how is it you KNOW they are being mistreated??? Do you KNOW them personally?? Or just know families you BELIEVE are like them???

 

[CheshireSmile]

There are many of us who don't think the Duggars are standard bearers of a decent, Christian home. We are certainly not saying those homes don't exist.

The power of TV and celebrity is certainly amazing.

Agreed. And agree with princessmom. We have a family friend who grew up in Arkansas and went to school with Michelle. She can't even watch that show it makes her so upset. As always in keeping with the theme of this thread, prayers for the new baby. I hope she is doing well and receiving excellent care!

 

[princessmom29]

And exactly how is it you KNOW they are being mistreated??? Do you KNOW them personally?? Or just know families you BELIEVE are like them???

I know what they say they are doing or have done in the past, unless they are telling tales on themselves. I know how these children act and respond to things. I know that many, many of their behaviors are hallmarks for abused children. Again, too many red flags not to speak up and say something is likely very wrong here.

 

[ireland_nicole]

honestly, I've received extensive training in recognizing abuse, including but certainly not limited to training as a court appointed special advocate. Nothing in the children's behavior sends up any kind of "red flags" to me. With all due respect princess mom, I think you're reading into things because of your experiences in the past. Kind of like how shadows in a dark room look more sinister if you just saw a scary movie. I don't personally know them, so I can't unequivically say with certainty that they do not in any way abuse their children- any more than anyone else who doesn't know them can say with certainty that they are being harmed. But I have observed nothing in the footage I have seen that would indicate to me that the children were being abused in any way.

Continuing to pray for the health and protection of baby Josie.

 

[princessmom29]

honestly, I've received extensive training in recognizing abuse, including but certainly not limited to training as a court appointed special advocate. Nothing in the children's behavior sends up any kind of "red flags" to me. With all due respect princess mom, I think you're reading into things because of your experiences in the past. Kind of like how shadows in a dark room look more sinister if you just saw a scary movie. I don't personally know them, so I can't unequivically say with certainty that they do not in any way abuse their children- any more than anyone else who doesn't know them can say with certainty that they are being harmed. But I have observed nothing in the footage I have seen that would indicate to me that the children were being abused in any way.

Continuing to pray for the health and protection of baby Josie.

You can honestly say that you question nothing in this family? Have you seen the early specials , the very first footage of them before the show was picked up? The kids just seem so timid, fearful, and scared to me, like they are afraid to say or do anything that hadn't been pre-approved. Michele seems unwilling to say anything without approval from Jim Bob. They are really, really reluctant to answer any questions about things like, do you ever wish you had more space, privacy, ect. or do you ever fight with your siblings. All of this say highly controlling father figure, and probable intimidation to me?? I was also very disturbed by Michelle's interview in which she talked about blanket training of infants. Have you heard/ read that?

 

[strmtroopr96]

Can someone PLEASE remind me what the original point to this thread was? Seems to have been lost on some. Sending out best wishes to this baby and her family!

 

[ireland_nicole]

You can honestly say that you question nothing in this family? Have you seen the early specials , the very first footage of them before the show was picked up? The kids just seem so timid, fearful, and scared to me, like they are afraid to say or do anything that hadn't been pre-approved. Michele seems unwilling to say anything without approval from Jim Bob. They are really, really reluctant to answer any questions about things like, do you ever wish you had more space, privacy, ect. or do you ever fight with your siblings. All of this say highly controlling father figure, and probable intimidation to me?? I was also very disturbed by Michelle's interview in which she talked about blanket training of infants. Have you heard/ read that?

They are certainly less self assured and media savvy, and I would say that would be typical of children/individuals who had not been in front of the camera previously. I'm well aware of Michelle's blanket training interview, she also goes into detail in her book. I have seen footage of the younger ones being corrected by Michelle, and of their tantrums as well. They're kids, they all have their own personalities. I honestly have not seen signs of intimidation/coercion in their interviews. In contrast, the little boy in the center of the "balloon boy" fracas certainly did. I have not seen the children flinch away from their dad, or show typical physical signs of avoidance, rather, they seem to be very comfortable hugging and in other ways showing appropriate affection among the family. Again, my prayers are with the family. As the mom of a 26 weeker(actually born at 28, but stopped developing at 26, born at 2 lbs.), I understand a great deal of what they might be going through right now.

 

[jacksmomma]

You can honestly say that you question nothing in this family? Have you seen the early specials , the very first footage of them before the show was picked up? The kids just seem so timid, fearful, and scared to me, like they are afraid to say or do anything that hadn't been pre-approved. Michele seems unwilling to say anything without approval from Jim Bob. They are really, really reluctant to answer any questions about things like, do you ever wish you had more space, privacy, ect. or do you ever fight with your siblings. All of this say highly controlling father figure, and probable intimidation to me?? I was also very disturbed by Michelle's interview in which she talked about blanket training of infants. Have you heard/ read that?

I too noticed that Michelle is reluctant or does not comment on anything that does not directly relate to the kids without looking to Jim Bob first.

 

[Bitsmommy]

Can someone PLEASE remind what the original point to this thread was? Seems to have been lost on some. Sending out best wishes to this baby and her family!

Well said. I, too, was the mother of a premature son and we needed all the prayers we could get.