Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread--Part 7

[DWGal210]

For goodness sake...I know of a family with 9 kids in a little cape cod with the mom being a SAHM and the dad has a nice job in mahufacturing. the top floor of the cape cod is all open is one huge bedroom for the boys and the first floor has 2 small bedrooms, one for the daughters in bunk beds and one for the parents. The basement is finished and that is where they hangout. the kitchen isn't huge, but between that and the dining room, they can all eat at the same time. They don't have a bunch of "stuff" because they don't have room (or money) for extras...but the kids are all big into sports and they spend most of their time outside playing and going to their games.

It is just ridiculous how much the Gosselins spend. And they think it is all necessary and they are entitled to it. Disgusting really. It's not like they even need to save for college. It would be so doable to raise those kids on a normal income. They won't have gardeners, but with a smaller yard, that isn't a big deal. They won't have nannies, but if kate stops running off to NY everytime she needs to go on a talk show to complain about Jon...they won't need that either.

What is sort of sad is that would be a more interesting reality show. One where we were watching how Kate had to scale back and actually live off a small amount of money with the kids. We would actually enjoy watching that and it could be inspiring (if she actually became humble that is). But, of course that is how these greedy two started out...and it would never be enough.

My favorite idea for a reality show for Kate would be for her to take that job at McDonald's that she was talking about. The kids wouldn't have to be on the show. We could just watch and see how Kate handles that job. WOuldn't that be a happy little show?

MTE. Their struggle now is going to be scaling back their spending and making that money last; cause let's be honest - - they SHOULD have enough money to live within their means for a few years before they have to consider seriously other forms of income. I just always hated how Kate says that house is for the kids and they love it; they would love anywhere they lived, as long as they were with their parents. It's not the fault of the kids that their parents have made them accostomed to the "things" in life.

 

[mousey]

That big house is going to have to go soon. Not like they enjoyed it anyway by having friends or family over or anything. Kids never had friends over to swim in the pool. The only people that got to enjoy it were Jons girlfriends.

You bet that house will be the first to go. If Kate is pursuing her "celebrity career" she will need to choose between NY and CA. So we know of 2 possible friends that might of been at the birthday party or over swimming (not including Jon's girls). Wow--its funny the papparazzi catch everything else going on at that house they wouldn't notice family or friends coming over?

The kids will probably be glad to get out of that house. What kind of life did they have there being taken care of by nannies and babysitters?? Daddy was out sewing his oats and Mommy was touring with the bodyguard.

Like I said before, I hope there is money for the kids counseling bills--they are going to need it with these two idiots as parents.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I thought Stephanie was the only one who had been to the house, just saying.

But I agree with you about the big house -- I can't see Kate giving up the nannies to keep it.

I think she would give up something to keep it.

Kate has never really changed--her income has, but she's always been budget savvy (budget as in not spending more than you have--not necessarily frugalicious).

IMHO--she isn't the kind who is going to whip out the plastic to continue living a financial charade. It just isn't who she is.

I know people harp on her for her ridiculous antics with sales and coupons when they have all this money--to those I would say read "The Millionaire Next Door". Just b/c one gets money that makes them wealthy--doesn't mean they abandon those ways. It often helps them keep the money.

Sure she dresses nicer and such. And I'm pretty sure she's busting her entreprenurial butt to have something come out of this mess to continue an income--but the last thing she's going to do is let the ship sink so far while clenching her stilettos and nannies and not realizing the financial dire straits should it get to that point.


What has she spent all this money on? I have no idea.

But until it comes forward--none of us know.

I think financially--Kate and the children will be fine.

Jon on the other hand--I think is up the creek without a paddle. He has nothing truly marketable to regenerate that kind of income. In fact--I think that is to Michael Lohan's advantage.

Kate can write books (with or without a ghostwriter), write cookbooks (even if the recipes are unoriginal--recipes in and of themselves are not copyright protected--only their presentation in print), Kate can become a host of some sort. She's got something and with some savvy business people by her side, I have no doubt that she can generate an adequate incometo maintain the present lifestyle.

Just my thoughts--but they aren't financially sunk just yet.

 

[loveysbydesign]

Didn't get to read through everything but just came across this..sorry if someone else posted it! Last shows will air and then the show will be done as of November

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33327434/ns/entertainment-celebrities/

 

[DMRick]

So we know of 2 possible friends that might of been at the birthday party or over swimming (not including Jon's girls). Wow--its funny the papparazzi catch everything else going on at that house they wouldn't notice family or friends coming over? .

They had lots of friends at the tups party. I was just saying that they don't give out the names. The kids seem to have been couched to keep their friends quiet. They go to friends homes when they don't want to tape..Mady mentioned that as well as Kate and Jon.
I doubt the girls friends hold much interest for the paps. Before Jon got caught out in the bars, the paps seldom took any pictures at all. The interest for them is the parents, not the kids so much.

 

[sandramaac]

Didn't get to read through everything but just came across this..sorry if someone else posted it! Last shows will air and then the show will be done as of November

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33327434/ns/entertainment-celebrities/

FINALLY THE NIGHTMARE IS OVER ​

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

BTW, just called my DH at work and asked him if he could remember what I was wearing the last time he saw me (about 5 hours ago) -- Nope!

Well then I guess no one will be thrilled to see me back here again either and read what I have to say..

Welcome back, C.Ann

So, is the show ending? We know that for sure? Or do they just have enough footage right now to go through November? As I said earlier, I'll wait and see how it plays out.

I think that TLC will be back to filming the Gosselins for as long as it can last. Jon's stunt was a bargaining chip to get himself out of the exclusive contract.

She's going to put the divorce and such in a new book? Hasn't it been publicized enough? Of course I'm sure she could put her own "spin" on it, but still.. Is this "for the kids" too?

Jon hasn't kept it a secret that he is working on his own book and he also says everything is for the kids.

I was thinking that maybe she paid tuition for the year. I know I like to pay off my DD's tuition in one lump sum. You get a discount for paying in full and don't have to worry about monthly payments for the rest of the year. Now granted, I have one child in parochial school so my bill is MUCH smaller.

It could be, I wish our school offered that!


Surely Kate can find out if her computer has been hacked. Jon should have never welcomed Stephanie into his life.

 

[DMRick]

very well thought out and written.

I think she would give up something to keep it.

Kate has never really changed--her income has, but she's always been budget savvy (budget as in not spending more than you have--not necessarily frugalicious).

IMHO--she isn't the kind who is going to whip out the plastic to continue living a financial charade. It just isn't who she is.

I know people harp on her for her ridiculous antics with sales and coupons when they have all this money--to those I would say read "The Millionaire Next Door". Just b/c one gets money that makes them wealthy--doesn't mean they abandon those ways. It often helps them keep the money.

Sure she dresses nicer and such. And I'm pretty sure she's busting her entreprenurial butt to have something come out of this mess to continue an income--but the last thing she's going to do is let the ship sink so far while clenching her stilettos and nannies and not realizing the financial dire straits should it get to that point.


What has she spent all this money on? I have no idea.

But until it comes forward--none of us know.

I think financially--Kate and the children will be fine.

Jon on the other hand--I think is up the creek without a paddle. He has nothing truly marketable to regenerate that kind of income. In fact--I think that is to Michael Lohan's advantage.

Kate can write books (with or without a ghostwriter), write cookbooks (even if the recipes are unoriginal--recipes in and of themselves are not copyright protected--only their presentation in print), Kate can become a host of some sort. She's got something and with some savvy business people by her side, I have no doubt that she can generate an adequate incometo maintain the present lifestyle.

Just my thoughts--but they aren't financially sunk just yet.

 

[momrek06]

OT, I was thinking about the tuition for the Gosselins school and decided to look at the Catholic schools my DS' went to....elementary was NO LIE $56.00 a month for my now 27yo (grad 1996) ...that same elementary Catholic school is now $4000.00 for the school year!!! DS#1 chose the public high school in our town after he grad from this school.

Catholic high school for my now 23yo was $4000.00 a year (grad '04) for everything and it is now $6500.00 (tuition only) which does not include lunch, transportation, books, uniforms = (another $2000.00 yearly).

WOW just wow!!!

So you figure the Gosselin's tuition bill for all eight has to be pretty high!!!

 

[kidshop]

I think she would give up something to keep it.

Kate has never really changed--her income has, but she's always been budget savvy (budget as in not spending more than you have--not necessarily frugalicious).

IMHO--she isn't the kind who is going to whip out the plastic to continue living a financial charade. It just isn't who she is.

I know people harp on her for her ridiculous antics with sales and coupons when they have all this money--to those I would say read "The Millionaire Next Door". Just b/c one gets money that makes them wealthy--doesn't mean they abandon those ways. It often helps them keep the money.

Sure she dresses nicer and such. And I'm pretty sure she's busting her entreprenurial butt to have something come out of this mess to continue an income--but the last thing she's going to do is let the ship sink so far while clenching her stilettos and nannies and not realizing the financial dire straits should it get to that point.


What has she spent all this money on? I have no idea.

But until it comes forward--none of us know.

I think financially--Kate and the children will be fine.

Jon on the other hand--I think is up the creek without a paddle. He has nothing truly marketable to regenerate that kind of income. In fact--I think that is to Michael Lohan's advantage.

Kate can write books (with or without a ghostwriter), write cookbooks (even if the recipes are unoriginal--recipes in and of themselves are not copyright protected--only their presentation in print), Kate can become a host of some sort. She's got something and with some savvy business people by her side, I have no doubt that she can generate an adequate incometo maintain the present lifestyle.

Just my thoughts--but they aren't financially sunk just yet.

Yep, she has always cried poor and begged. I don't think that will stop either.

 

[C.Ann]

Welcome back, C.Ann

Jon hasn't kept it a secret that he is working on his own book and he also says everything is for the kids.

Thank you..


Then that would make him no better than her.. Neither one of them has good judgement where their children are concerned - especially when it comes to matters that should be private..

Hopefully those children will never have to be filmed again in order to support their parents..

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

This mess with Stephanie the nanny and her claims of Jon hacking into Kate's accounts and emails. I find it unfortunate that Jon keeps his company with people that will sell him out, whether it is true or not remains to be seen.

I asked my husband (who has been an IT guy for 20 years) if it would be possible for Jon to figure out how to do this. He said it would be fairly easy to put a program on her computer that would register every key stroke and action she performed thus enabling him to hack into whatever he wanted. He went on to tell me that someone else that has experience could come in and be able to tell if this was done. Banks also keep records of the IP address of anyone logging into an account and how long the session lasted. It is also a felony.

Jon needs to hang out with the Sunday school crowd ONLY from now on.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Thank you..


Then that would make him no better than her.. Neither one of them has good judgement where their children are concerned - especially when it comes to matters that should be private..

Hopefully those children will never have to be filmed again in order to support their parents..

Actually there are several parents who have written books about their children.

One in particular I believe--who is quite outspoken when it comes to the Gosselins and minces no words about their poor choices has written 2 books. One includes stories of potty training her brood.

Writing is First Amendment protected and I don't feel the Gosselins should ever be prevented from writing a book just b/c of who they are. Lest they wish to ban everyone from writing any book about a real child ever.

That's just asking too much.


Also--while I think their judgement is clouded--I don't think it is all poor and they have managed to use some good judgement a number of times.

 

[Plannin'Shannon]

So you figure the Gosselin's tuition bill for all eight has to be pretty high!!!

While I'm sure Gosselin tuition is obscenely high, I'm also willing to bet the school gives them a significant discount for enrolling that many kids. I went to private school from kindergarten through eighth grade, and discounts were always given for families with more than one child. The more children you enrolled, the deeper the discount.

 

[madge]

There's a new video posted (is it actually new, or are they just re-using it?) on RadarOnline with Stephanie Santoro:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/exclusive-video-interview-gosselin-nanny-says-jon-hacked-kates-accounts

While I don't put much credence in anything she says, she is now also saying that she sent an email to Kate while she was working for Jon

what little I saw seemed refreshed old news. I didn't really pay much attention to it, though. I don't put much faith into what that Stephanie says. She's as much a fame-grabber as the Gosselins, IMO. LOL

 

[C.Ann]

Writing is First Amendment protected and I don't feel the Gosselins should ever be prevented from writing a book just b/c of who they are. Lest they wish to ban everyone from writing any book about a real child ever.

That's just asking too much..

Writing books is not the issue - it's the content that could be worrisome.. There's "writing a book" - and then there's the hatchet job that serves no purpose other than to retaliate against the other person.. (Kate vs Jon/Jon vs Kate).. I would hope that they would me mindful of the fact that a book written by either one will at some point in time also be read by their children.. However, based on their previous public actions/discussions/announcements/appearances/interviews, I don't hold old much hope that it would be a "kind and caring" approach to what has transpired in their lives since "Multiple Blessings" was written.. I could be wrong, but history does tend to repeat itself..

 

[redrosesix]

Actually there are several parents who have written books about their children.

One in particular I believe--who is quite outspoken when it comes to the Gosselins and minces no words about their poor choices has written 2 books. One includes stories of potty training her brood.

Writing is First Amendment protected and I don't feel the Gosselins should ever be prevented from writing a book just b/c of who they are. Lest they wish to ban everyone from writing any book about a real child ever.

That's just asking too much.


Also--while I think their judgement is clouded--I don't think it is all poor and they have managed to use some good judgement a number of times.

Very well said -- they each have their moments where I think they did the right thing. Sadly, I believe they think better separately than together (not including Jon's 3 months of ridiculousness)

As for the books, although I have no doubt that Kate's will be a tell-all with her side of the story, I hope that Jon's isn't. He has been talking about a possible documentary of reality TV (even said it might be in 8 parts, so does that means he's in talks with somebody about it?) and I think that would be a brilliant topic for a book, sort of a tell-all of what happens behind the scenes, perhaps using his experience as an example, but not necessarily.

IMO, it will be the publishing companies that decide whether the books will get done, unfortunately they won't base their decision on any morals, but on how much money they can make from them.

 

[DMRick]

Our discount was only based on income. If you could afford it, you paid it.

While I'm sure Gosselin tuition is obscenely high, I'm also willing to bet the school gives them a significant discount for enrolling that many kids. I went to private school from kindergarten through eighth grade, and discounts were always given for families with more than one child. The more children you enrolled, the deeper the discount.

 

[momrek06]

While I'm sure Gosselin tuition is obscenely high, I'm also willing to bet the school gives them a significant discount for enrolling that many kids. I went to private school from kindergarten through eighth grade, and discounts were always given for families with more than one child. The more children you enrolled, the deeper the discount.

Not the case when my kiddos were in school. You could make payments if you wanted but no discounts for more than one.
I do remember that because there was NO Catholic high school in our town, my DS traveled by bus, 30 minutes (each way) to his Catholic high school, that our Parish gave what was called "Parish Credit"...it was like $100.00 a year.

Our discount was only based on income. If you could afford it, you paid it.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

Oh great - just what the kids need Jon and Kate doing tell all books about their divorce! Oh yeah, everything is for the kids.

BTW my kids have always gone to private school and there were discounts (regardless of income) when you had more than one enrolled. The most I ever had enrolled at one time was 4, but you would keep getting discounts (2nd one small, 3rd discount a little bigger etc). Of course she could always put them in public school if tuition was too much.

Kate could give up the nannies, landscapers, flying across country for spa treatments and live very comfortably.

I still think Kate feels "entitled" to getting stuff for free because she had sextuplets.

I hope for the kids sake they would both let go of the "celebrity" thing and try to get back to being a normal (albeit divorced) family.