Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 4

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Well I noticed Kate's "body guard" in the background while she was doing the book signing.

You know I have been lurking here and have wondered if I should post my views. First off I am a fan of the show, and have enjoyed imensley watching the children grow from infants, to toddlers, to now kinders.
I find it interesting how now that Jon has been accused of having an affair people think that they are exploiting the kids. Why didn't people feel this way before?:confused3 Especially Aunt Jody, I wonder if this is her way of getting back at Kate for not wanting to pay her for being on the show. (for the record Jody should have been) Why are the worries of child labor laws coming to light now and not 4 seasons ago?
Kate stated that she tried to work with the issues they had for months, how could she if she is away from home the majority of the month! I truly hate her excuse of having to earn a living for her children, and that she is doing this for them. I honestly think Kate is the one doing it for fame. Her ego is out of control and she needs to wake up and see what SHE has done to her marriage and her family. Jon on the other hand, needs to grow up(as well as Kate) and realize whether or not he wanted to have 6 more he has them, and although I don't doubt he loves them, he needs to start stepping up and doing what Kate had done pretty much on her own for the last 4 years or so.
I think the thing that bugs me the most is Kate's excuse of the fact that parents of multiples have a higher divorce rate. Stress of multiples have nothing to do with this, the lack of consideration for each other, and the lack of communication is what killed their marriage.

Whew that felt good......;)


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Sorry, if this link has already been posted::

http://www.celebuzz.com/kate-gosselin-bends-over-forwards-s109731/photos-32983781/0


I think Kate looks ok in the bathing suit. Her belly button is up way to high and her tops of her legs look a bit big. But do I think she is better looking than some of the others that I have seen on a beach. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I honestly think she wants to be photographed now and likes all of the attention!!!!!!!!!!!

Her belly button does seem a little high however I think she looks great - very healthy.
 
Sorry, if this link has already been posted::

http://www.celebuzz.com/kate-gosselin-bends-over-forwards-s109731/photos-32983781/0


YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I honestly think she wants to be photographed now and likes all of the attention!!!!!!!!!

:) Amen, sister. :)

Oh, and to add further to this: I STILL think that bikini bottom is too small. It looks like its really squishing things down there. (sorry).

And YES, her belly button is incredibly high. I didn't notice that the first time around. I guess that's the result of the tummy tuck. And in one of those photos in the link above, you can really see one Kate's scars well. I'm guessing from the c-section or tummy tuck or a combo of both.
 

How do we not know that Kate did not know about Jon already. Keven and Jodi said that she had come to him six months ago and that would have been before this time. I have a hard time believing that her brother is lying after watching him on different interviews. It was hard for him and I don't agree with what he did but I do believe what he said.
If Kevin is telling the truth then Jon is not wrong in this. Well, let me say, he is wrong no matter what, but he was given the green light. So in their life the only thing he did wrong was get caught.
 
How do we not know that Kate did not know about Jon already. Keven and Jodi said that she had come to him six months ago and that would have been before this time. I have a hard time believing that her brother is lying after watching him on different interviews. It was hard for him and I don't agree with what he did but I do believe what he said.
If Kevin is telling the truth then Jon is not wrong in this. Well, let me say, he is wrong no matter what, but he was given the green light. So in their life the only thing he did wrong was get caught.

Agreed. If Kate did for some unknown reason, give Jon permission to do what he's doing, then no, he wasn't really all that wrong. Actually, they would BOTH be wrong. But that's assuming that it is all true. I'm not really all that hesitant to believe, but then again, it is a little strange to give your hubby the go ahead to fool around, right?

But then, this is LIMELIGHT KATE we're talking about. I don't know....
 
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Agreed. If Kate did for some unknown reason, give Jon permission to do what he's doing, then no, he wasn't really all that wrong. Actually, they would BOTH be wrong. But that's assuming that it is all true. I'm not really all that hesitant to believe, but then again, it is a little strange to give your hubby the go ahead to fool around, right?

But then, this is LIMELIGHT KATE we're talking about. I don't know....

It is funny because people say that it would not be a Kate like thing to do to give him that option but I see it as being a kate like thing. She still would get her show and she would still have control over him. Yeah she may not like the fact that her husband is with other women but she still is the one who controls him.
 
It is funny because people say that it would not be a Kate like thing to do to give him that option but I see it as being a kate like thing. She still would get her show and she would still have control over him. Yeah she may not like the fact that her husband is with other women but she still is the one who controls him.


See, you and I must think a lot alike, because I can totally see it, too. I think she wants the show more than she wants Jon, but she (possibly) feels she needs Jon for the show, therefore stick with me and do the show and you can do whatever you want.

Speculation, of course, but I can see it...
 
I read Jon's birthday is four days after Kates. I don't know if this is true or not?? Maybe that's why the trip to Utah fell when it did?? Do we know when he left? I'm not trying to defend him - just thinking maybe it was a four day trip but got moved to a five day trip and that first day was Kate's birthday??:confused: They could have used Charm City Cakes for BOTH birthdays and just had one big celebration (since everyone else in the house shares a birthday with someone!) :rotfl:

When Kate was walking around the house and asking about the bus, didn't someone mention that Jon helped Maddy and Kara plan the birthday surprise?
 
When did US Magazine become a legitimate news source?

If Deanna was there in Utah, why are there no pictures of her there or have I just not seen them?
 
...however, it does sound like such a tabloid thing to say. I'd love to know if there was a for real written contract out there. Then I'd totally buy it. Right now, I'm just leaning toward "I can see it happening" because...well, Kate is Kate, after all.
 
When Kate was walking around the house and asking about the bus, didn't someone mention that Jon helped Maddy and Kara plan the birthday surprise?

I thought I heard that also. I thought Kate said "Jon was in on it...". I was half paying attn though.

When did US Magazine become a legitimate news source?

If Deanna was there in Utah, why are there no pictures of her there or have I just not seen them?


Yeah, that makes me wonder, too. I'm sure there would most certainly be a link on here if THOSE pictures were to come out. We'd be right on top of it!
 
...however, it does sound like such a tabloid thing to say. I'd love to know if there was a for real written contract out there. Then I'd totally buy it. Right now, I'm just leaning toward "I can see it happening" because...well, Kate is Kate, after all.

If I had to guess there is nothing written. That would be crazy to do but it could be a verbal agreement type of thing. If it is written then people could get a hold of it. I hate to think that they are sick enough to do something like that but from what we have seen they could be. I guess I just tend to believe it because of her brother. If it was just Jodi then I would probably not but since her brother is involved and the way he was acting I just tend to believe it to be true. I can also be a little naive also so that maybe the case here.:rotfl:
 
How do we not know that Kate did not know about Jon already. Keven and Jodi said that she had come to him six months ago and that would have been before this time. I have a hard time believing that her brother is lying after watching him on different interviews. It was hard for him and I don't agree with what he did but I do believe what he said.
If Kevin is telling the truth then Jon is not wrong in this. Well, let me say, he is wrong no matter what, but he was given the green light. So in their life the only thing he did wrong was get caught.

Well I've been thinking about this. Let assume(yes I know what happens but hey we've done it once today lets just continue the trend) things happened like Kevin and Jodi say. Jon came to them in around December and said Kate says she's done but has given me a contract that says I can have girl friends as long as I show up for tappings. Jon goes home and licks his wounds for a while and then says to himself I'm going to get myself a girl friend and I wont be discreet about it so maybe it will force Kate's hand or at least embarrass her and I can get out of the show. The first picture comes out of him stumbling out of a bar at 2:30 am and he's still in the same situation. Then the 2nd set of pictures comes out and now the s*@* hits the fan but his still in the same situation. Except for the fact that Kate is playing the victim roll.

Just my little mind at work
 
I thought I heard that also. I thought Kate said "Jon was in on it...". I was half paying attn though.




Yeah, that makes me wonder, too. I'm sure there would most certainly be a link on here if THOSE pictures were to come out. We'd be right on top of it![/QUOTE]

ARe you kidding, we would have it posted 20 times before any other new source got a hold of it.:rotfl2:
 
Well I've been thinking about this. Let assume(yes I know what happens but hey we've done it once today lets just continue the trend) things happened like Kevin and Jodi say. Jon came to them in around December and said Kate says she's done but has given me a contract that says I can have girl friends as long as I show up for tappings. Jon goes home and licks his wounds for a while and then says to himself I'm going to get myself a girl friend and I wont be discreet about it so maybe it will force Kate's hand or at least embarrass her and I can get out of the show. The first picture comes out of him stumbling out of a bar at 2:30 am and he's still in the same situation. Then the 2nd set of pictures comes out and now the s*@* hits the fan but his still in the same situation. Except for the fact that Kate is playing the victim roll.

Just my little mind at work



I think you have a great mind!
 
If I had to guess there is nothing written. That would be crazy to do but it could be a verbal agreement type of thing. If it is written then people could get a hold of it. I hate to think that they are sick enough to do something like that but from what we have seen they could be. I guess I just tend to believe it because of her brother. If it was just Jodi then I would probably not but since her brother is involved and the way he was acting I just tend to believe it to be true. I can also be a little naive also so that maybe the case here.:rotfl:


Me, too.
 
the same day People did, IMO.


A tabloid is a tabloid. In my book (and this is just me speaking for myself), there's not a lot of difference between People and Us. National Enquirer, okay, maybe that one's a bit over the top, but you get my drift...
 
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