Jedi Training Fiasco (SP???)

[lookslikefun]

I wonder if this activity is popular enough to make it a special activity like the BBB, archery lessons, pirate cruises, etc. I'd pay to bring my ds to a little training session. They could limit the numbers so that all participants get some time to be "picked." Just a thought.

 

[kat_balou]

I wonder if this activity is popular enough to make it a special activity like the BBB, archery lessons, pirate cruises, etc. I'd pay to bring my ds to a little training session. They could limit the numbers so that all participants get some time to be "picked." Just a thought.

I would too. I think that's a great idea.

 

[Lavender_Blue]

Because you can only do so much, any type of system some one is going to feel it's unfair. If you separate the kids from the adults some parent is going to complain that their little suzy is tramautized by seperaton anxiety or their little Johhny is very shy and always gets overlooked. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get kids to be quiet and stay seated on a good day? Now you've got parents who may have an excitable child complaining that it's unfair to the ADHD crowd.

I think it's a cooperation, yes Disney has to play a part but PARENTS also have to use some common sense.
To take a kid back some where 3 times where the probability is high that they will be disappointed yet again is imo a bad move. I mean the word NO is still a choice for a parent right? Yeah my kids get to be disappointed but they do not get to mope about it for 3 days afterward.

I agree that maybe my idea isn't the best idea. I was just saying they could make it a little easier/safer for kids not to get trampled. You're never going to come up with a better "choosing system."

But, you're right, things would be a lot smoother if, sometimes, the parents just behaved themselves. ;p

That's really not the impression that I got from the OP.

She posted a response saying that her kid wasn't upset by the selection process, but he was overwhelmed by "the heat" and that some big kid pushed him over.

 

[inkkognito]

I mean the word NO is still a choice for a parent right?

Sadly, it doesn't seem to be in a heck of a lot of households these days.

 

[Brian Noble]

Oooh! I use "no" all the time! It's a consequence of Family Rule 2, which states "You have the meanest parents in the world."

For reference Family Rule 1 is "Life is not fair." Family Rule 3 is "You are not the center of the Universe." Together, those three Rules take care of every childhood complaint I've ever been privvy to so far.

 

[eliza61]

Oooh! I use "no" all the time! It's a consequence of Family Rule 2, which states "You have the meanest parents in the world."

For reference Family Rule 1 is "Life is not fair." Family Rule 3 is "You are not the center of the Universe." Together, those three Rules take care of every childhood complaint I've ever been privvy to so far.

Guess what Brian, one of the perks of having teenagers is you can now say "no" in really, really creative ways without worrying about hurting the little princes (in my house) psyche. I've branched out to:

1) Boy, you have lost your $%$ mind.
2) When &*^ freezes over
and the ever popular "finish college, get a job, get your own house=do whatever you little heart desires" . My house, my rules.

 

[perkinsrose]

All kids are born egocentric. It is part of the nature of childhood. Some grow away from it quicker (some never!!).

I think its okay for young kids to experience disappointment, frustration, etc. over something they had anticipated/wanted...be upset for a few minutes and work through it without dwelling

and then move on and be able to enjoy the rest of the day, week, & magic.

 

[inkkognito]

1) Boy, you have lost your $%$ mind.
2) When &*^ freezes over
and the ever popular "finish college, get a job, get your own house=do whatever you little heart desires" . My house, my rules.

The irony is, they may moan and groan and claim they're praying for the day that they turn 18, but when it arrives and they realize that moving to their own place means (gasp!) paying bills, they're suddenly not so eager. My brother has 8 kids, all over the age of 18 (in their early 20s mostly), and he still hasn't managed to get 'em all out despite their all pledging to leave on their 18th birthday.

 

[perkinsrose]

Oooh! I use "no" all the time! It's a consequence of Family Rule 2, which states "You have the meanest parents in the world."

For reference Family Rule 1 is "Life is not fair." Family Rule 3 is "You are not the center of the Universe." Together, those three Rules take care of every childhood complaint I've ever been privvy to so far.

Guess what Brian, one of the perks of having teenagers is you can now say "no" in really, really creative ways without worrying about hurting the little princes (in my house) psyche. I've branched out to:

1) Boy, you have lost your $%$ mind.
2) When &*^ freezes over
and the ever popular "finish college, get a job, get your own house=do whatever you little heart desires" . My house, my rules.

At this point, i don't think i'd say that to my kids but they were a good laugh!

 

[eliza61]

At this point, i don't think i'd say that to my kids but they were a good laugh!

It usually kicks in after you've explained for the 9,000th time, that there is no way you are letting him drive to NYC with 3 other 17yo on a Saturday night to "try & catch a Rangers" game which of course means you're ruining his life.

 

[Brian Noble]

finish college, get a job, get your own house=do whatever you little heart desires

I have a variant of this one too. Kid wants to buy <something>. The <something> is clearly junk. I veto. Because they get an allowance, they often come back with:

"But it's my money!"

My response: "No, when you pay your own rent, and cook your own food, it's your money. Until then, it's not."

Then, because timing is everything, I wait about a three-count, and add:

"Oh, and Rule Two."

(We don't even need to state the Rules anymore. We just refer to them by number.)

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

She posted a response saying that her kid wasn't upset by the selection process, but he was overwhelmed by "the heat" and that some big kid pushed him over.

I read the entire thread. If this really was the case, why would the OP start the thread in the first place? To complain that Florida is hot and WDW is crowded?! By the fact that she took him back to this thing multiple times, it seems to me that her DS was disappointed he didn't get chosen.

 

[perkinsrose]

I read the entire thread. If this really was the case, why would the OP start the thread in the first place? To complain that Florida is hot and WDW is crowded?! By the fact that she took him back to this thing multiple times, it seems to me that her DS was disappointed he didn't get chosen.

I think WDW does a pretty good job keeping crowds manageable in queues and at shows. Often waiting/viewing/quieing areas are protected from excessive sun exposure.

Considering that many people wait long before show starts at JEDI training camp--often in full sun/heat of the day & big crowd with little organization, I think WDW could make adjustments for comfort safety of guests here.

 

[Buzz Litebeer]

I read the entire thread. If this really was the case, why would the OP start the thread in the first place? To complain that Florida is hot and WDW is crowded?! By the fact that she took him back to this thing multiple times, it seems to me that her DS was disappointed he didn't get chosen.

You'd be amazed (or perhaps not) at how many guests go to Guest Relations to complain that it's hot and crowded in WDW in the summertime. I like to tell Guests who complain to me that they should have come back in the 70's -- when there was routinely a 2+ hour wait for Hall of Presidents and Country Bear Jamboree.

Considering that many people wait long before show starts at JEDI training camp--often in full sun/heat of the day & big crowd with little organization, I think WDW could make adjustments for comfort safety of guests here.

Ok, I'll bite. Like what, exactly?

 

[eliza61]

I think WDW does a pretty good job keeping crowds manageable in queues and at shows. Often waiting/viewing/quieing areas are protected from excessive sun exposure.

Considering that many people wait long before show starts at JEDI training camp--often in full sun/heat of the day & big crowd with little organization, I think WDW could make adjustments for comfort safety of guests here.

I also think that the popularity of this attraction may have caught disney a little off guard (hey, it happens). As you say, they are pretty good with lines so it may be time for them to revisit the stadging area of this. But I also think that in this case, parents may have to be a little more vigalent and creative. Unfortunately there is no sure fire way to handle boorish and rude parents who push, shove & in general let their "darlings" run amok so I was a genuis at thinking up little reasons why we had to pass an attraction by.

You'd be amazed (or perhaps not) at how many guests go to Guest Relations to complain that it's hot and crowded in WDW in the summertime. I like to tell Guests who complain to me that they should have come back in the 70's -- when there was routinely a 2+ hour wait for Hall of Presidents and Country Bear Jamboree.

Ok, I'll bite. Like what, exactly?

Nope, not amazed. I was in MK last May and a young mom was loudly complaining to the CM's that the presidents in the Hall of Presidents looked phony.

 

[Buzz Litebeer]

I was in MK last May and a young mom was loudly complaining to the CM's that the presidents in the Hall of Presidents looked phony.

OTOH, I've also overheard guests leaving the HoP say "Wow, how did Disney find so many actors who looked just like the Presidents?" or "That guy sure did sound just like George Bush, didn't he?"

As the great philosopher Herman Munster used to say, "It takes all kinds of people to make a world, I suppose."

 

[melancholywings]

I don't think they could improve upon the show by how they pick the kids. I can't imagine how hard it is for the CM's to pick and wrangle all those children. But I think they could approve upon the attraction by adding other elements that would allow the kids to interact with the same characters. More meet and greets, or something similar to the interactive Stitch that DL has. (Which is hidden and off the map but so much fun. If you go doooo it!). They could do the same set up with an animated Yoda.

 

[Zeebs]

Never been so I don't know the set up, but could they give every kid that is interested in participating a "lucky ticket" then draw out the number and that kid if he has it gets up on stage?

Kids need to know that they don't always get everything, but it doesn't matter how you prep them they are just kids they get upset, they get over it. But to me the idea of of a pushy parent, getting their kid in first with no one pulling them up seems very unfair.

Luckily for me, my 2.5 year old won't care so we can give this a miss.

Kirsten