I've got a virus!! HELP!

always quiet

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My computer has one....not me! This is my first virus...what do I do?! :eek: I'm running the virus scan right now and it found a "spybot.worm". When it finishes scanning, will it give me the option to disgard this file? How did I get one when I always have McAffee running?:confused:
 
Do you use Kazaa or other file swapping services? That's most likely where you got this one.

The virus checker should remove it safely, I would assume.
 
Seeing how I have no idea what 'kazza' is, I don't think I use them!! :( Still scanning for more....it looks as if it found this one in my documents! :confused:
 
Does your virus protection always update for you on a regular basis?
 

Originally posted by ~Sparkly~Zoe
Does your virus protection always update for you on a regular basis?

To OP: the above is the key to the whole shooting match. Right now, McAffee or Norton will keep you protected. At least thus far, the only way to get a virus is to either A) pull it off a floppy, in and of itself a rare occurance these days; or B) opening an attachment. Unfortunately the self-inducing virus is probably upon us, hopefully the virus boys will stay ahead of them.

I think I speak for all chipheads here when I highly recommend getting someone with a modicum of computer experience to check the setup on your McAffee. It should be set to update itself on a regular basis. And don't balk at the $30 per year or whatever it is to renew the service each year. Cheaper than auto insurance, just as valuable.

Pat
 
Hello, my friend!

I have read that Norton is much more reliable than MacAffee.

I have set my Norton to run a total virus scan every Friday at 9:00. I also have the version that automatically updates any new protection needed directly from the Internet as they come through. I pay a fee once a year for the protection.

Good luck. The MacAffee will probably isolate the virus and quarantine it. Then it will give you the option to delete the quarantined file.
 
I do update the McAfee on a weekly basis. Usually, it will remind me there is an update available. I have the on-line subscription service. It has now found a second one as well!! :eek: Again, this one seems to be in the documents file!! It showed up in my son's user tile. I mentioned the kazaa to him and he said he had been there once...some sort of music download service. :confused: Still scanning....over 65,000 files! How many are in the computer! :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by always quiet
I mentioned the kazaa to him and he said he had been there once...some sort of music download service. :confused: Still scanning....over 65,000 files! How many are in the computer! :rolleyes:

How many files? in Windows XP, about a Million Six......

The best way to do the full system scan is to set it off just before lunch, or better yet before bed. XP does things a little different than older operating systems. It's easier on the user, which means more complex on the back-end (the garbage that takes place behind the scenes, like the kitchen you never see when eating in a fancy restaurant), which means more files, and bigger files. To put it in perspective, 1 gig hard drives, at the time thought a "marketing ploy" no one would ever use, came out less than four years ago (I think, and if I'm wrong, I'm an expectant father here!). Now, I don't recommend smaller than a 40 gig, and you're joking yourself with a 20. Regardless, these large hard drives with numerous system files can take forever to fully scan.

As for download services like Kazza....these are very, very popular with the younger set these days, basically to trade files (usually files they aren't supposed to be trading, but that's another topic, for another day, in another forum). You may have heard of "Napster," the mother of all file share sites. Kazza, I think, is similar. So immense is the amount of bandwidth (Internet highway) taken up by this process that many colleges are now slapping fees on tuition to cover the cost.

Viruses, generally speaking, are created by young twits who seem to enjoy the mere thought they've made an adult feel pain. When I was a kid, we'd throw eggs at people's houses. Same basic principle, no rhyme nor reason. Just the sheer, immature joy of disrupting, and killing your own boredom at the same time. And just as we'd not throw eggs at a house with the lights on, nor would we throw them during the day, those who would send viruses no longer try to send them via floppy disks (the original preferred virus travel method) because no one uses them. They send them via email attachment and put them in these file share sites.

Why? Because they can make them look like something you actually may want. If your DS wants a music file called bighittoon.wav, then a person wishing to spread a virus may make the file look like bighittoon.wav. There are ways to tell if it's not what it seems, but it's hard for the non-chiphead to do. Thus, DS downloads bighittoon.wav (which might actually look like bighittoon.wav.scr if looked at properly). Now, you have a virus residing on your system. It's not doing anything, it's just there. Once he attempts to play the song, it invokes the virus. Welcome to spybot.

Next time your McAffee runs, it says "whoa thar, what be this?" If it's set up properly (it sounds like it is), it will immediately take control of your computer (giving you the option to override it) and cure the problem to the best of its ability. Email is getting safer because programs like McAffee and Norton can pick these viruses up when they're inbound, thus before they're invoked. And they simply quarantine them. This became imperative when viruses were created that could procreate. They did this by not only launching themselves on your system, but they'd go to your email address book and launch them to your address book with random subject lines. Imagine a family member getting an email from you that has a virus attached and says in the subject line "look what I found." They figure it's ok, open it, and BAM. So virus software is now default set to roam your email before it shows it to you.

Beware the strain of virus known as "the redneck virus," a series of emails that have no attachments, and no viruses. One merely sends out a not to many people that says "I found a virus on my machine and probably sent it to you. Search your system and if you find a file called "win.ini," erase it and you'll be covered." No virus there, but folks will go "oh, no" and send that message to everyone. If you actually perform this task (erasing a file with an ini extension), you're erasing essential computer files. Thus, YOU are the virus. Neat, huh? At the end of the day, you have a virus when McAffee tells you, not when a friend emails you.

Probably more than you wanted to know, huh?
 
We just had spybot here. It's a tough one. I couldn't get rid of it but DH was able to eradicate it by reinstalling an updated version of Norton. He called Norton and that's what they told him to do. We receive virus infected messages almost daily because our home computer is tied by network to our company's computers, and with the volume of traffic, we are a target. Spybot is the first virus that Norton didn't detect immediately. Good luck!
 
OK....still scanning....now for another stupid question! :rolleyes: The screen tells me how many files it has scanned and what it is scanning. It appears to be in my games that are downloaded. It it on zoo tycoon. Why is it now slower than molasses?! :eek: It had been flying through all the files, but has been on zoo tycoon for probably about a half hour.

Sorry for all the questions...it's my first time!

PS DS has now gotten instructions NOT to go to kazaa EVER AGAIN!! :bounce:

The second virus it found was called "exploit-byte"....:confused: Any ideas what that one is?!
 
Originally posted by always quiet
OK....still scanning....now for another stupid question! :rolleyes: The screen tells me how many files it has scanned and what it is scanning. It appears to be in my games that are downloaded. It it on zoo tycoon. Why is it now slower than molasses?! :eek: It had been flying through all the files, but has been on zoo tycoon for probably about a half hour.

Sorry for all the questions...it's my first time!

PS DS has now gotten instructions NOT to go to kazaa EVER AGAIN!! :bounce:

The second virus it found was called "exploit-byte"....:confused: Any ideas what that one is?!

Wish I could help you with exploit-byte, but that's a new one to me. There's literally dozens of "garden variety" viruses now. They're all basicaly the same, though. They interupt computer processes (slowing your system to a crawl), some destroy files, and most send themselves to your email address book.

A suggestion: once you're finished, look in your "sent" mail. If there's many, many messages there you don't recall sending, I'd send out notification to each that you did have a virus, but you've cured it. Don't suggest they do anything (see redneck virus info in my previous post).

Game files are the bane of my existence. They're enormous, they use many fancy scripts and secondary software to make things whir, click, ring, and twist. All these things can and do interrupt what I consider to be "normal office functions." You'll hear about stuff like ‘Active X Controls.' So vile are some of these game enhances (they do more than enhance games, but the combination is deadly) that my wife's machine (note: she's a government employee) is blocked by the IS personnel from having Active X, several clones, and several scripts (including the well-known "java"). When used in the hands of a quality applications programmer, they can greatly enhance a program. In combination with teenager games, they can wreck your system by fudging it into doing things it doesn't have the muscle to do.

To answer your question, they take so long to scan because the initialization files (anything with a .ini extension), the graphics files (pictures, etc. that go along with them, very graphics intensive) and the executable files are enormous. It's pretty straight forward. However, there seems to be a multiplier factor with McAffee (one of the reasons I recommend Norton to clients). In other words, a 3 MB file may take 100 seconds, about a minute and a half, to scan. You'd think a 6 MB file would take a little over three minutes, but instead it goes up incrementally. Does it make any sense? Nah......
 
Pat, you've done the best job of explaining viruses in layman's terms that I've ever seen. :)

Now I have this question about servers and domains.....
 
It scanned 88,516 files. There were only the 2 viruses found. The spy-bot was automatically deleted but it said it couldn't do the same for the exploit-byteverify file. It told me to manually delete or quarantine it. I chose quarantine. Wasn't sure.

Thanks for all the help! Hopefully, I won't come across another one of these things! I'll check my sent mail just to make sure nothing got forwarded to anyone in my address book. :bounce:
 
Originally posted by ***********
Now I have this question about servers and domains.....

Ae you talking about servers, domains, or domain servers ;)

Actually, I could explain all that, but if everyone understood everything, how the heck would I make a living? Read the Deadsea Scrolls. Shorter, and more interesting!

Pat
 
Originally posted by Pat_Elliott
Shorter, and more interesting!

Pat

Amen. :teeth:

Some things I don't want to understand. If I understood too much about computers and the internet, it would take away the magic, sort of like walking through the utilidors in the Magic Kingdom. :)
 
Originally posted by ***********
Amen. :teeth:

Some things I don't want to understand. If I understood too much about computers and the internet, it would take away the magic, sort of like walking through the utilidors in the Magic Kingdom. :)

Sadly, it's my dream to wander the utilidors. Perhaps that's why programming is my lot in life.

I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world. By Albert Einstein, one funky dude.
 
Pat!!! You only have 13 days until your daughter is born??? Where has the time gone??? We'll be thinking of you and praying for a healthy baby. Oh my!
 
Originally posted by Tinks
Pat!!! You only have 13 days until your daughter is born??? Where has the time gone??? We'll be thinking of you and praying for a healthy baby. Oh my!

Where has the time gone? Drive to Danville, drive back from Danville, work four twelve hour days, clean the house, drive to Danville, drive back from Danville, clean the house.....lather, rinse, repeat.....

Believe me, I find myself drifting right now (that's why with only nine working days until I take a two weeks sabatical, I'm none-the-less writing my fourteenth post of the day). Dad said something wonderful, yet cruel last night. I told him the latest medical report suggests we can finally stop worrying about premature delivery. I told him we were counting down, JUST LIKE A DISNEY TRIP. His response: "Yeah, but have you figured out yet that stuffed Pooh doll you're bringing home will need changed and fed 24/7?"

Oh yeah, we're not coming home alone........

I look forward to writing many threads in my first days as a father. The important ones will begin "HELP."

Thanks for the note, Tinks! I'm so exited, I've given up coffee. Who needs it?

Pat
 
Originally posted by Pat_Elliott
"Yeah, but have you figured out yet that stuffed Pooh doll you're bringing home will need changed and fed 24/7?"

That made me LOL! I can remember thinking to myself after we brought our dd home..."Will I ever get to sleep a whole night again?" Turns out the answer is...every once in a while but don't try to make it a habit. :)
 
Originally posted by Pat_Elliott
Are you talking about servers, domains, or domain servers ;)

Actually, I could explain all that, but if everyone understood everything, how the heck would I make a living? Read the Deadsea Scrolls. Shorter, and more interesting!

Pat

Of course, explaining those would lead into discussions of the different kinds of just 'servers' - including FTP, Web, Transaction, etc.....
 

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