It's Walt Disney World and Disneyland, NOT Pirate World and Pirateland!

mousefun

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For a person who loves Pirates of the Caribbean, I feel I am correct with my opinion that enough is enough. TOO MUCH PIRATES!!!!!!!!!!! I say this with love of the attraction. By turning things to be TOO much Pirates, it will only make things diluted in the future. Everyday I learn more and more how Disney is adding things to be related to Pirates. What is next, we change the castles to look more like Spanish fortresses?

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
 
mousefun said:
What is next, we change the castles to look more like Spanish fortresses?

Hey Thats a Great Idea!! Now, what number on my speed dial was WDI....hold on its ringing......
 
Disney may have finally found what they want. A way to market their product to the boys. Now before some of you go crazy on me, listen to the facts. Disney has tried, unsucessfully to market to boys (9yo and up) for years. And so far, nothing has worked. None of the fab five appeals to these kids. Nor does Peter Pan, most villains or even the almighty Buzz Lightyear.

Disney owns the market on girls, but even loses some of them in the teen category. As for character merchandise, Mickey and the rest of the fab five, along with anything Pooh are big with the girls. And the Princess line is HUGE!

But for the boys, nothing much seems to work. And the teens, forget about it.

Now with pirates being the fad of the hour, Disney is going to do everything it can to capitalize on their popularity. The merchandise in Disney's retail outlets and all of their licensing parters will probably be dominated by Pirate stuff all summer long. As for TDS, I can't imagine kids wearing Pirate themed outfits to school, so we'll just have to see.

Hey, but I Jerry Seinfelt could wear a pirate shirt on the Today Show, then anything can happen.

The way I see it, this fad (and it is a fad) is Disney's last real chance to win with the boys. I'm betting that pirates sales will give them a bit of a spike, but in the end, 50% off signs will prevail and it's back to focusing on the girls.
 
I don't think anyone's going to go crazy on you. Power Rangers, Cars and Pirates merchandise will help balance out all of the Princess stuff for Disney. I was in a Disney Store on Saturday, and they had lots of decent Cars stuff. (My son already has 7 of the McDonalds toys, and three buildings from the town purchased at Target).

I disagree about Buzz, he's been a big hit at least with younger boys, as is Captain Hook. The Incredibles was also big for boys (note that Pixar has yet to have a female-oriented movie), and Stitch.

I don't see any reason why it all has to end up in the discount rack, though. They need to keep marketing to this group (and where's our boys' breakfast!).
 

Found this article. Not sure if it has been posted before:

Disney Consumer Products (DCP) today announced that 2006 will be the best year ever for boys. Driven by the tremendous success of Disney*Pixar's "Cars," the establishment of "Pirates of the Caribbean" as a long-term franchise and the ongoing popularity of "Power Rangers," Disney is reaching boys with everything from die-cast, action figures and bikes to MP3 players, video games and books.

"With the strength of our entertainment, we knew 2006 would be the year we became a power house boys player," said Andy Mooney, chairman of Disney Consumer Products. "Similar to DCP's girl's portfolio, which is the best in the industry, our boy's portfolio offers everything from the whimsical 'Cars' and 'Toy Story' characters to the heroic rite of passage that is 'Power Rangers' for younger boys, to the cooler, more aspirational 'Pirates of the Caribbean' brand for the older boy."

"Power Rangers" - DCP's #1 Boys Brand

DCP kicked-off its year experiencing strong demand for "Power Rangers" action figures, its perennial boy's property, during the Holiday 05 season. In 2005, "Power Rangers" was ranked second in the action figure category behind "Star Wars," according to The NPD Group. Next year's theme will be called "Power Rangers: Operation Overdrive." "Power Rangers" airs more than 65 times each week in over 40 territories worldwide, and continues to expand worldwide with successful launches in Italy, India and other countries this year.

Disney*Pixar's "Cars" - phenomenal success

The tremendous anticipation of "Cars" before the film was released combined with the huge box office opening resulted in record-breaking retail sales for merchandise based on a Disney*Pixar theatrical film. The film's humor, story and character personalities were incorporated into its products, which featured many category firsts for a Disney*Pixar film, including the first power ride-on, kids electronics line and bedroom suite. Currently, "Cars" is recording 10 to 1 more retail volume than "Finding Nemo" at the same point in its release. DCP plans to expand and refresh product with new creative style guides for fall and beyond. Large retailers have already committed to "Cars" feature shops for the entire months of November and December to maximize the DVD release.

"Pirates of the Caribbean" - evergreen boy's franchise

On July 7, "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" will release to theaters and reignite a pirate frenzy that started in 2003. "Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl" recorded more than $650m in global box office sales, and "Dead Man's Chest" is one of the most highly-anticipated events of the summer. With ongoing entertainment support, DCP is positioning "Pirates of the Caribbean" as an evergreen boy's franchise, comparable in opportunity to its "Disney Princess" franchise for girls.

Since the audience for "Pirates of the Caribbean" is so broad, DCP looked to create innovative product and edgy creative designs for multiple consumers. Toy licensee, Zizzle's Black Pearl playset was already chosen for Toy Wishes "Hot Summer Toys" list, a high-end apparel and jewelry line tied into the current Pirates fashion trend will launch to specialty stores, and Disney Publishing developed the largest live-action publishing series ever -- including the latest novel, "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" (junior novel), currently on the New York Times children's best-seller list. "Pirates of the Caribbean" product will be featured in all key categories represented at major retailers worldwide.

"Toy Story" - 10 Years Strong

And let's not forget about Woody and Buzz. Ten years from its initial release, the "Toy Story" franchise continues to show growth at retailers like Target, which showed double-digit growth in "Toy Story" merchandise sales this year. Additionally, "Toy Story" is the best-selling boy's property at Disney Store North America, with new Buzz Lightyear and friends product in all key categories featured in more than 100 stores.
 
mousefun said:
For a person who loves Pirates of the Caribbean, I feel I am correct with my opinion that enough is enough. TOO MUCH PIRATES!!!!!!!!!!! I say this with love of the attraction. By turning things to be TOO much Pirates, it will only make things diluted in the future. Everyday I learn more and more how Disney is adding things to be related to Pirates. What is next, we change the castles to look more like Spanish fortresses?

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

What is too much pirates?
They are redoing the ride, releasing the movie, pirate cruise from resort offered and have a few new ears out...what else will be pirates?
 
Pirate minstrels roaming New Orleans Square, Pirates taking over the Columbia. both at DL. Don't know if the minstrels are at WDW too.
 
YoHo said:
Pirate minstrels roaming New Orleans Square, Pirates taking over the Columbia. both at DL. Don't know if the minstrels are at WDW too.

Didn't they do both of those things back in 1967? I know Wally Boag was part of it.

Compared to the Stitch crap that got uber-dosed on us at MK, I'm not too concerned about this.
 
Oh, I'm not complaining, I'm just sayin those things are happening as well.
 
YoHo, I know. Just a general statement, or more specifically a response to the OP's position.
 
1000th happy haunt said:
At least pirates take my mind off of Stitch.

Is stitch some sort of unrequited love interest for you or something?
 
What she meant was that Stitch seems to be everywhere here in WDW.

I was trying to figure out what the OP was getting at - is there a lot of POTC merch at TDS? I haven't been in one in quite some time. If I want something Disney, I go to WDW. :teeth:

Yes, they have the same pirate training show here in FL. I went over to ride the rehab'd POTC on Saturday, but it wasn't up yet. Another 10 minutes & I would have gotten on however (thanks, Trin!). I wish I had more time, but with working 7 days a week.....

I don't think the parks are inundated with POTC - certain areas are, yes, but not everywhere.
 
I assumed the OP's comment was in regards to the truely Terrible stitch ride.
 


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