Is this possible? Old Hoppers

[Sk8Leigh]

My friends and I want to go to WDW next year, and they both have old (2004) Hoppers with 2 days remaining. Then another friend that they went with has a Hopper with 2 days as well. They would like to buy her Hopper and each use a day off of it to go for 3 days each. Is that possible? I think I read that Disney is now doing the bio scans for all tickets, correct? So that would mean that the same person would have to use both days of the third ticket? If so, they think they want to go to Sea World for the third day.

Thanks!

 

[Allison]

My friends and I want to go to WDW next year, and they both have old (2004) Hoppers with 2 days remaining. Then another friend that they went with has a Hopper with 2 days as well. They would like to buy her Hopper and each use a day off of it to go for 3 days each. Is that possible? I think I read that Disney is now doing the bio scans for all tickets, correct? So that would mean that the same person would have to use both days of the third ticket? If so, they think they want to go to Sea World for the third day.

Thanks!

That's correct.

 

[goofyernmost]

I know that it isn't "ethical" to use someone else's pass but previous to the bio-scan they had no way of knowing who was who and the old passes aren't connected to the scan system. If those are old enough to not have been with the scan then there is a good chance that they will work. Worse case scenario is that you have to buy a ticket at the gate.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

Didn't Disney print your name on the back of the Hoppers in '04? If so, they could always check your ID...

 

[WillCAD]

All entry into WDW parks now requires a biometric finger scan.

If you have an old hopper from before the finger scans, it will still work; the first time you use it, the finger scan of the person who uses it will be recorded, and from then on only that person can use the hopper.

Because of this, it's now not possible to share ANY WDW park pass.

 

[Sk8Leigh]

Ok, thanks, that's what I thought. My friend didn't really understand when I told her, so I'll have to explain it better now that I know for sure.

 

[mrzrich]

I had an old hopper in 1995 that had my picture on it

 

[goofyernmost]

I had an old hopper in 1995 that had my picture on it

They did try that for a very short period of time but, lets face it, can you imagine how much that slowed down entry into the park? It didn't last long for sure.

 

[WillCAD]

I had an old hopper in 1995 that had my picture on it

I remember those days. Thankfully somebody got wise to the fact that people who are waiting in line for 30 minutes to get their pics taken for their tickets are NOT spending any money at the time!

Now, if they would just realize that people who are spendning 30 minutes in line to get into the park because of the finger scan are also NOT spending any money at the time.

 

[Cmbar]

All entry into WDW parks now requires a biometric finger scan.

If you have an old hopper from before the finger scans, it will still work; the first time you use it, the finger scan of the person who uses it will be recorded, and from then on only that person can use the hopper.

Because of this, it's now not possible to share ANY WDW park pass.

Just Curious, when did this happen? I went earlier in the year with an Old hopper and didn't have to put my finger anywhere?

TO OP I have a cousin whose Mom uses her Husbands AP pass with the scan. Now I am not saying this is the best idea because that is just crazy, but the scan thing didn't slow them down. Go figure! I say give it a try by switching the ones they actually own. Having DW use one on day 1 and have them switch them on entering Park 2 on same day. That will tell them if the bio scan has worked. Does that make sense. Maybe too hard to figure out. If they don't have names or signatures on them then whats the big deal. Good Luck

 

[WillCAD]

They added the finger scan to old hoppers earlier this year. I don't remember exactly when, but I think it was during the spring, before the heavy summer season started.

The two-finger scan had lots of problems, starting with the fact that its accuracy left much to be desired. The new one-finger scan is a lot more accurate (still not 100%, but much better, and quicker, than the two-finger scan). It's not impossible to fool the scanner by jumbling your tickets, but the more you do it, the more likely the gate CMs are to send you to Guest Relations for a new ticket - and the more likely GR is to put your name on the ticket so your ID can be checked when the finger scan doesn't work.

FOr the record, since I sound like I'm defending the finger scans and Disney's policy of "non-transferable" tickets: I hate the finger scans. They are the worst idea Disney has had since the got rid of Early Entry in 2001 and replaced it with the lame Character Caravan. But as long as I want to get into the parks, I'll follow the rules as much as I have to.

 

[Sk8Leigh]

My friend still thinks she can split the pass with her friend. She called Disney, and was told that the old ones just get used like they did before, no exp, no finger printing (sic), until they are used up, and the new tickets are seperate
deal. There are alot of old ones out there to be used up, and it's too hard
to convert those over and they have to honor them.

But you say that they're doing the bio scan on all tickets now, even the old hoppers? The scan be added to the strip of the hoppers? And does someone have experience with this being done? If this is true and Disney gave her incorrect info, then I'm going to have a lot of trouble convincing her otherwise!

 

[clkelley]

As early as last December, a friend of mine had an old ticket that was purchased pre-scan days. They made her "add" the scan to that ticket.

 

[Lewisc]

I had an old hopper pass, with only plus options left, and TL added biometrics when I used it last year.

Maybe the CM meant no finger scanning until next used not used up. The only exception might be a very old ticket, without a magnetic strip EXCEPT you'll have to trade that in for a new ticket (no charge) in order to use FP.

 

[dizplanner]

What I would do is the following -
ticket 1 - friend's old ticket
ticket 2 - friend's DH old ticket
ticket 3 - purchased old ticket

on the first day, friend uses ticket 3 and DH uses ticket 2
on second day, friend uses ticket 1 and DH uses ticket 3 - if there are any problems say opps, grabbed wrong ticket and use ticket 2 and go to Sea World on day 3 (save left over tickets for friend to use on future trips) - if no problems, you are home free
on third day, friend uses ticket 1 and DH uses ticket 2

 

[gduvall]

We had 2 old passes with each having 3 pluses each. The first time we used them we had to do finger scan, but the next two times we used them we had a different person use them and they didn't have to do a finger scan. Just insert and go. Each ticket was used by 3 different people without any problems. We had a group of 8 and the convention tickets that we purchased were 5 park days and 2 water park days. We needed one more water park day for everyone.
Since we had basicly had 6 days of admission left from previous, all we had to purchase was two single day admission to water park.

 

[WillCAD]

My friend still thinks she can split the pass with her friend. She called Disney, and was told that the old ones just get used like they did before, no exp, no finger printing (sic), until they are used up, and the new tickets are seperate
deal. There are alot of old ones out there to be used up, and it's too hard
to convert those over and they have to honor them.

But you say that they're doing the bio scan on all tickets now, even the old hoppers? The scan be added to the strip of the hoppers? And does someone have experience with this being done? If this is true and Disney gave her incorrect info, then I'm going to have a lot of trouble convincing her otherwise!

Nothing is added to the magnetic strip. The magnetic strip does not store any information except the ticket's unique serial number.

Any information on a WDW ticket, including how many days and plusses it had when new, how many days and plusses have been used, which parks it was used in, and the biometric finger scan data, is all stored entirely on the WDW computer system.

The first time an old ticket is used, you will be required to put your finger in the scanner at the gate. When that happens, the biometric data from the scanner will be associated with the ticket, and from then on nobody else will be able to use the ticket.

The biometric finger scan is not 100% accurate. It sometimes makes mistakes and won't recognize someone, and is sometimes taken off-line at various parks for short periods, especially during very crowded days when the finger scan would back up the gates significantly. This creates a small window of opportunity for those who want to get something over on the system, but your chances are not terribly good and you may be seriously dissapointed if you fail.

 

[Cmbar]

I had an old hopper pass, with only plus options left, and TL added biometrics when I used it last year.

Maybe the CM meant no finger scanning until next used not used up. The only exception might be a very old ticket, without a magnetic strip EXCEPT you'll have to trade that in for a new ticket (no charge) in order to use FP.

What is a TL Did this happen right at the gate?

 

[tjmw2727]

We used the remaining two days on two old hoppers in May, everyone 10+ was using the biometric system. The first day my husband and my sil had to sign the back on of the old park hopper as well as use the biometrics thing. There really wasn't a place to sign but the CM just had them sign above the strip. From then on any time they entered a park with that ticket it was tied to the biometric taken the first time. My sil has a medical issue and has trouble with her hands, she was asked for id instead and they checked it against the name on the park hopper.

TJ

 

[seashoreCM]

>>> still thinks she can split the ticket with her friend
Doesn;t the ticket say "non-transferable" on the back in English?

>>> TL
Typhoon Lagoon water park

>>> made her add the scan
All it takes is to put your fingers in the turnstile scanner like everybody else does.