Is this against the rules

[hushupu]

I posted this on a different thread about off site verse on site and didn't get a response so I thought I would try again.
I'm not even sure if this is allowed but couldn't you stay off site and rent a tent site at Fort Widerness for $42 per day and get the best of both worlds. You would get free parking, could use DDP, have charging privilages and take advantage of EMH.
I'm not sure but I don't think Disney would actually make you set up a tent, just pay for the site and go to your off-site resort.
I'm wondering what others think about this idea.

 

[Haley]

It would make more sense to pay around $100ish /night and just stay at a Value Resort.


Disney doesn't like people getting rooms and not actually occupying them. They want you staying there and spending your $$ on food and souvineers and not going off site.

 

[hoosiergirl7]

My question is why would you waste $42 a day to set up a tent and leave it there or for that matter pay for a space for one and not use it??? You're better off staying at a value resort and getting all the same privileges without having to fork over the extra money. Even a moderate is affordable. We just booked a 1 week stay w/ dining and park hoppers for a lot less than I thought we would staying at a moderate.

In my experience looking at most of the hotels in the area you'll easily spend close to $100 or more per night. It's worth it to spend a little extra and just stay on property. If you have a car you'll still be able to go anywhere you want.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

This is just my opinion but to me this sounds like double booking ADR's. If you do this then you might cause another family of not getting a reservation there, because what if you happen to get the last tent site and would not actually be staying there. So I say you could pay a little more and stay at a Value Resort, so this way you do not have to stay offsite and still get all the onsite perks.

 

[pooh2001]

You would have to at least check in at the Fort Widerness tent site and maybe set up a small tent. Then go to your offsite resort. At the end of your stay - check out at Fort Widerness tent site and take down the tent.

I do not think it is worth it.

Pay $42 for a tent site and $150 off site - $192 a night

You are better at a value - or even better at a moderate with a larger room, refrigerator and a nice pool. Try CSR or POFQ.

 

[hushupu]

My thought is for people who need multiple bed\bath rooms. Condos and houses with great ammenities like private pools are available for much less than a suite or multiple roooms on property. I did some calculations and I would save close to $3200 on a 10 night stay during peak season using this idea.

 

[WEDWDW]

My thought is for people who need multiple bed\bath rooms. Condos and houses with great ammenities like private pools are available for much less than a suite or multiple roooms on property. I did some calculations and I would save close to $3200 on a 10 night stay during peak season using this idea.

All I will say is Let Your Conscience Be Your Guide.

 

[auntie]

This comes up from time to time. While you could "get away with it". You should also be aware that you are taking the "site" from someone with a camper or RV who would actually use that site. The FW camping experience is second to none. There are many people who camp in the Fort and never even visit the parks. Also, unlike a resort, where when one is filled, you usually can find availability in one of the others. Where as with the campground if you are unable to secure a site for your RV..it's not as if you have another Disney option. You don't get to go. That's why it's so frustrating for campers to see empty, unoccupied sites during their stays. Many times campers have been told that there was no availability for particular nights they need...only to find them unoccupied, yet not available to the camper. Because someone wanted free parking and early entry to the parks. While, again...you "can" do this. It is generally frowned upon, and honestly you should know there's a good chance that you'd be taking a site from someone who would actually be thrilled to occupy it, and doesn't have another option available to them. If you don't care....well, then you dont, and no explanation will change your mind. However, I think a good many people don't mean any harm by doing what you suggest, they just don't realize they may be spoiling a vacation for someone who actually needs the FW site, and doesn't have the option of going to a different resort if it's filled.
Where ever you wind up..enjoy your stay.


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[pooh2001]

Want perks and still stay off site ?
Have one person, an adult, in your party buy an Annual Pass (AP).
That person, adult, can buy the DDE - Disney Dining Experience card and everyone who dines with that person at a WDW restaurant gets 20% off the total bill.
I think an AP holder also get some other perks - on minigolf and tours.

There are also AAA discounts on some tours at WDW too.

 

[minnie61650]

This comes up from time to time. While you could "get away with it". You should also be aware that you are taking the "site" from someone with a camper or RV who would actually use that site. The FW camping experience is second to none. There are many people who camp in the Fort and never even visit the parks. Also, unlike a resort, where when one is filled, you usually can find availability in one of the others. Where as with the campground if you are unable to secure a site for your RV..it's not as if you have another Disney option. You don't get to go. That's why it's so frustrating for campers to see empty, unoccupied sites during their stays. Many times campers have been told that there was no availability for particular nights they need...only to find them unoccupied, ...
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I agree.
This was a very moving post that was posted on the Lies and Laziness thread: BTW :
It was her first ever post.

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1874835&page=3

I've lurked for ages but am only finally posting so ... here goes.

First off, I sincerely hate for you that your vacation is getting off to such a bad start. Hopefully this is the absolute low point and it is only up from here, right?

Last October I took my seven year old son to the Mouse House for the first time. In fact, his first vacation ever because being a single parent who has only received child support when the law catches up to his runner dad... vacations are tough to afford. We camped at Fort Wilderness. We got a tent from Goodwill which was probably not my best call since it did not work. Stop laughing. It didn't work for me, the many other campers who attempted to assist, nor the wonderful people working at FW. It was one of those push the button to open things. Now I know why it was at Goodwill. Money was tight so it was not like I could just get a room so we... camped in the car! A Toyota Echo. Go look it up to see how "luxurious" those accommodations turned out to be . I cursed a blue streak for about 20 minutes and cried for another 15 and then something really awesome happened. Some other campers donated some decorations and helped us decorate our car and campsite (for Halloween) and that made me feel better. One guy brought over a juice box for my boy and a bottle of wine for me. I felt better still. Everyone agreed that Goodwill had not, in fact, shown much good will. We all laughed and I felt even better. My son and I hit the parks and looked for all the magical moments we could find... and we found tons. We came back to our campsite and it started to rain at which point my 7 year old declared it was a good thing we had the car so we didn't get wet! There were honestly magical moments every day of our four day trip. Enough that I took a second job so that we can go again this October. This time, with a traditional tent which I've practiced putting up and taking down repeatedly.

My (long-winded) point is this. You're unhappy now? OK. But allow it to pass and actively look for the magic. You will find it. To paraphrase one of my heroes: The greatest madness is to see life as it is, rather than as it can be. (Don Quixote).

I truly hope you have a vacation at the GF which is at least half as wonderful as the one I had with my son last October.

 

[jellybeans0607]

thank you for posting that, it reminds me that all my planning and replanning is totally in vain. i need to remember that i go for that magical time i had the first time i went...when i knew nothing of ADRs or touring plans. that was the true magic!

 

[disnut8]

I posted this on a different thread about off site verse on site and didn't get a response so I thought I would try again.
I'm not even sure if this is allowed but couldn't you stay off site and rent a tent site at Fort Widerness for $42 per day and get the best of both worlds. You would get free parking, could use DDP, have charging privilages and take advantage of EMH.
I'm not sure but I don't think Disney would actually make you set up a tent, just pay for the site and go to your off-site resort.
I'm wondering what others think about this idea.

I see what you are talking about.

But then I remember how many times my father and stepmother wanted to stay at Fort Wilderness and couldn't because it was full. So they didn't go to see us for a long weekend.

 

[seashoreCM]

It's sad when there is no availability because some people booked and did not use the campground or resort room.

But note that if you did have an reservation for Fort Wilderness and arrived to find the place full (oversold; overbooked), Disney has to put you somewhere, anywhere, on property for your $42. a night.

I doubt if frowning on the subject will come to inspecting campgrounds to see whether they are actually unoccupied and walking guests there (see preceding paragraph). This could extend to inspecting booked rooms at Pop Century to see if they are actually unoccupied, too much trouble all around.

More realistically, if Ft. Wilderness is consistently full, Disney might raise the rates.

Disney hints: http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/disney.htm

 

[sjaakie]

I posted this on a different thread about off site verse on site and didn't get a response so I thought I would try again.
I'm not even sure if this is allowed but couldn't you stay off site and rent a tent site at Fort Widerness for $42 per day and get the best of both worlds. You would get free parking, could use DDP, have charging privilages and take advantage of EMH.
I'm not sure but I don't think Disney would actually make you set up a tent, just pay for the site and go to your off-site resort.
I'm wondering what others think about this idea.

What a sad attitude.

 

[vod2117]

I wouldnt suuggest doing that economically and liogically. If you would be staying onsite and offsite you would be running into a cost issue because it will cost you more to stay on site and off site than to spend $80-100 a night at a value resort. Also you would be using a lot of time traveling to and from Disney than to stay on-site and use that time towards the water parks, DtD and other things. Also Disney despises guests who pay for rooms that are not occupied.

 

[larryz]

I agree.
This was a very moving post that was posted on the Lies and Laziness thread: BTW :
It was her first ever post.

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1874835&page=3

I LOVED that post. (snif!) It shows how warm and friendly people can be to total strangers when they're down on their luck.

OTOH, it also proves the value of never going camping with new gear until you've tested it at home... I'd wager she never does that again...

But, to stay on topic, how many people can stay at a campsite? If you need quarters bigger than your average accommodations, seems like you'd need more than one campsite, too... I can't see them giving you ten KTTW for a single campsite.

 

[minnie61650]

I LOVED that post. (snif!) It shows how warm and friendly people can be to total strangers when they're down on their luck.

OTOH, it also proves the value of never going camping with new gear until you've tested it at home... I'd wager she never does that again...

But, to stay on topic, how many people can stay at a campsite? If you need quarters bigger than your average accommodations, seems like you'd need more than one campsite, too... I can't see them giving you ten KTTW for a single campsite.

Actually up to 10 guests can stay in a single campsite. And yes, each of those 10 guests will recieve a KTTW.

From this website:

http://www.greatorlandodiscounts.com/disney-hotels/wilderness-campground.htm

Standard Guest Rooms: maximum 6-10 Guests
Options: Wilderness Cabin (sleeps 6); Preferred Campsite (sleeps 10); Campsite with full hook-up (sleeps 10); Campsite with partial hook-up (sleeps 10).

 

[larryz]

Actually up to 10 guests can stay in a single campsite. And yes, each of those 10 guests will recieve a KTTW.

From this website:

http://www.greatorlandodiscounts.com/disney-hotels/wilderness-campground.htm

Standard Guest Rooms: maximum 6-10 Guests
Options: Wilderness Cabin (sleeps 6); Preferred Campsite (sleeps 10); Campsite with full hook-up (sleeps 10); Campsite with partial hook-up (sleeps 10).

Wow - I can see some economic advantage in doing that, then...thanks for filling me in on that.

Don't get me wrong - I wouldn't do it. But I can see how some people would game the system that way.

 

[loco4dis]

Honestly, I don't understand some of the responses to this post. The OP wouldn't be depriving others of using the site any more than anyone else who rents a room/site/villa/etc. is depriving someone else of that space. You pay your money and you rent your accommodations. Every rented room could have potentially gone to someone else, for goodness sake. It's no one's business how much the renter is "using" the space, and the OP's "conscience" shouldn't have to be consulted at all. Yes, the post from the single mom with the broken tent was sad, but it hasn't a thing to do with the OP's question. By the same logic, I could say remember that woman and her kid the next time you book CR MK view and go Value instead out of respect for her sad, sad story. It's ridiculous. If the space is duly bought and paid for, the renter has met her obligations as far as that contract goes. Renting space at Walt Disney World isn't a moral issue, nor should it be made one. It's a business. They're trying to make money; we're trying to save money. If the OP isn't breaking any rules in the leasing contract, he/she is perfectly within his/her rights to rent any darn space at Disney he/she can pay for.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Honestly, I don't understand some of the responses to this post. The OP wouldn't be depriving others of using the site any more than anyone else who rents a room/site/villa/etc. is depriving someone else of that space. You pay your money and you rent your accommodations. Every rented room could have potentially gone to someone else, for goodness sake.

Sure - to someone who would be occupying the room.