Is there a stomach bug going on at WDW?

He was better by the time we left, I just called in case he was sick thank you very much. Not to mention that it would have been a lot more than $100, it would have been the difference in flights as well and we were out of vacation time and not wanting to get fired, I guess, is definitely selfish! But again, we did not fly sick, or at least knowingly, my DD just started vomiting yesterday so this seems to take about 4 days from exposure to hit. Maybe you should start a campaign directed towards the airlines about this issue, convince them to let ill people switch flights without charging outrageous fees. If anyone is selfish, it is them.

There are a some of very self righteous, judgemental people on this board.

This is silly because most of the time you are contagious before you even show symptoms so in the big picture, it doesn't really make a difference. The only way for YOU not to get sick is to hole yourself up and I think everyone would be grateful for that!

I guess I'm confused? You said in your original post that DS and DH were sick, yet you still flew as it was too expensive to change flights, and you did not want to get fired. Now, your DD is sick too. The point is that your DS and DH were probably still contagious and then passed it to your DD, who then could have passed it on to entire flight. This is vastly different than you taking a healthy family on a plane and then several days later getting sick. You then more than likely caught something from someone on that plane, or, from within the park. No one would be upset or question your judgment as you legitimately were not sick on your flight down.

This is a different scenario than what you posted. You had sick family members while on vacation, yet still flew and now have another sick family member. She could have caught something from someone else, but chances are she didn't, since her brother and father were ill. Do you now see why some of us are frustrated with this scenario?

This is not being judgmental at all, but realistic and responsible. Travelling without insurance is irresponsible, not allowing for some emergency days within a travel itinerary is irresponsible - if you had to be back at work the very next morning and came back late at night, then that is not the fault of your employer, but yours for not leaving any extra time in your schedule should an emergency occur. What if your flight had to be re-routed or god forbid, there was an emergency onboard? Would you still have been fired? I highly doubt it. Your family was ill and so I would think that this would be understood by your employer, if not, then you would already know that you have a difficult employer, and you should not have scheduled a return flight for right before you needed to return to work, KWIM?

My response is just based on your info, so if I'm wrong, I apologize. Just trying to make sense of the situation. The bottom line is that there are so many posts on the DISboards about people travelling sick or visiting parks while sick and that is making me sick.:confused3

Again, if finances are that much of a worry, or, losing a job if missing a day of work, then people need to plan better. Emergencies and illness happen and so people need to take it more seriously than what is being reported on here. Throwing up at the parks, on a monorail or bus or in a plane is unacceptable. Sure, there are times when it happens unexpectedly, but when most of a family has been ill, then it doesn't take a lot of foresight to see that this is a contagious family who has now exposed an entire group of people to their germs and the socially responsible thing to do is not to fly during that time, period.

As someone who has been sick at WDW, had a husband who was ill and a hospitalized infant, BTDT. I do send you healing hugs as I know how hard it is to be sick on vacation, but I would encourage you to implement a better procedure for dealing with this should it happen again in the future.

Tiger :(
 
Yikes! I hope this stuff passes before we leave on our flight in 3 weeks!

Sadly, sometimes it's just impossible to avoid travelling when sick....we've actually felt ourselves coming down with something (colds, upset stomach, headaches) WHILE we're sitting on the plane so what do you do then?
 
:scared1: :scared1: :scared1: We are leaving Christmas day planned and srimpeds for a year taking the granbabies for the first time [ they are 1 and a half] now im really nervous about them getting sick!!!!
 
I guess I'm confused? You said in your original post that DS and DH were sick, yet you still flew as it was too expensive to change flights, and you did not want to get fired. Now, your DD is sick too. The point is that your DS and DH were probably still contagious and then passed it to your DD, who then could have passed it on to entire flight. This is vastly different than you taking a healthy family on a plane and then several days later getting sick. You then more than likely caught something from someone on that plane, or, from within the park. No one would be upset or question your judgment as you legitimately were not sick on your flight down.

This is a different scenario than what you posted. You had sick family members while on vacation, yet still flew and now have another sick family member. She could have caught something from someone else, but chances are she didn't, since her brother and father were ill. Do you now see why some of us are frustrated with this scenario?

This is not being judgmental at all, but realistic and responsible. Travelling without insurance is irresponsible, not allowing for some emergency days within a travel itinerary is irresponsible - if you had to be back at work the very next morning and came back late at night, then that is not the fault of your employer, but yours for not leaving any extra time in your schedule should an emergency occur. What if your flight had to be re-routed or god forbid, there was an emergency onboard? Would you still have been fired? I highly doubt it. Your family was ill and so I would think that this would be understood by your employer, if not, then you would already know that you have a difficult employer, and you should not have scheduled a return flight for right before you needed to return to work, KWIM?

My response is just based on your info, so if I'm wrong, I apologize. Just trying to make sense of the situation. The bottom line is that there are so many posts on the DISboards about people travelling sick or visiting parks while sick and that is making me sick.:confused3

Again, if finances are that much of a worry, or, losing a job if missing a day of work, then people need to plan better. Emergencies and illness happen and so people need to take it more seriously than what is being reported on here. Throwing up at the parks, on a monorail or bus or in a plane is unacceptable. Sure, there are times when it happens unexpectedly, but when most of a family has been ill, then it doesn't take a lot of foresight to see that this is a contagious family who has now exposed an entire group of people to their germs and the socially responsible thing to do is not to fly during that time, period.

As someone who has been sick at WDW, had a husband who was ill and a hospitalized infant, BTDT. I do send you healing hugs as I know how hard it is to be sick on vacation, but I would encourage you to implement a better procedure for dealing with this should it happen again in the future.

Tiger :(

I wasn't actually directing that at you :sad2:

I posted the airline info as an FYI. DH was sick day 2 out of a 7 day trip and DS was sick on day 4 of a 7 day trip (after getting to WDW)and I thought I would call to see what it would take to change our flight if needed. I didn't include all the details in my original post because I didn't think it mattered and that I would be judged for leaving info out as I was just trying to be helpful to people who were wondering about changing flights. Where did I say anyone was sick before we left? The title of this thread "is there a stomach bug going on at WDW?" Who said anyone in my family threw up in the park? Where did I say anyone in my family flew when sick? I simply said that I inquired about changing flights, I didn't even say that we didn't delay our flight. A lot of assuming going on here, you are filling in blanks all on your own. You know what they say about assuming, don't you?

Do you know that norovirus (as an example) can actually be contagious for up to 2 weeks after being infected? Are you going to stay at Disney an extra two weeks just to be sure you are no longer contagious and do you think any travel insurance is going to pay for you to do so? I think not.

I am sure that you would be very happy if the whole world would listen to you but it isn't going to happen so I would concentrate on happier things in life.

I am trying not to let these lovely exchanges taint my view of the board, i think I am going back to being a lurker from now on. Have a magical day.
 

I wasn't actually directing that at you :sad2:

I posted the airline info as an FYI. DH was sick day 2 out of a 7 day trip and DS was sick on day 4 of a 7 day trip (after getting to WDW)and I thought I would call to see what it would take to change our flight if needed. I didn't include all the details in my original post because I didn't think it mattered and that I would be judged for leaving info out as I was just trying to be helpful to people who were wondering about changing flights. Where did I say anyone was sick before we left? The title of this thread "is there a stomach bug going on at WDW?" Who said anyone in my family threw up in the park? Where did I say anyone in my family flew when sick? I simply said that I inquired about changing flights, I didn't even say that we didn't delay our flight. A lot of assuming going on here, you are filling in blanks all on your own. You know what they say about assuming, don't you?

Do you know that norovirus (as an example) can actually be contagious for up to 2 weeks after being infected? Are you going to stay at Disney an extra two weeks just to be sure you are no longer contagious and do you think any travel insurance is going to pay for you to do so? I think not.

I am sure that you would be very happy if the whole world would listen to you but it isn't going to happen so I would concentrate on happier things in life.

I am trying not to let these lovely exchanges taint my view of the board, i think I am going back to being a lurker from now on. Have a magical day.

I didn't think you were directing anything at me, so no worries!

I guess you missed the part of my post though where I said I was confused by your info, and if I have made any errors, I apologize. I was just trying to put together the scenario based on the info you provided. You gave limited info and mentioned that changing flights was too expensive, and that you might lose your job if you had delayed coming home. Why mention that unless it was applicable to the situation? Putting that info together and making a connection to what was already posted, is not an assumption at all. If you give limited info, that is to be expected. You just now mentioned which days your loved ones were ill. Based on that, they must have been symptom free for several days, and were probably well, so that is why you flew home and most people would do the same thing.

As an English teacher I always encourage my students to give as much info as possible when writing in an informative manner. Posters should follow the same rules when posting to informative threads such as this. :thumbsup2 If gaps are present, then people are going to put together the story based on the limited knowledge that you gave - it sounded like you had ill people who needed to get back home, especially since you mentioned that another child became sick once you returned home. I responded the way I did based on the info you provided and the info that you did not provide.

As I mentioned, I hope all of your family members are well enough to enjoy the holidays.

Tiger
 
Boy, this turned into an interesting thread.

Personally, I don't travel if I know my kids are sick beyond, say, a common cold. However, it's certainly possible to be carrying the virus and have no idea. I didn't read all of this thread, so I'm not referring to anyone in specific.
 
We got back a few days ago and DS and DH both were vomitting and had diarrhea, it managed to miss DD and myself. And FYI Delta would not change our flights for illness unless we paid a $100 per ticket fee.

Sorry, that based upon your full first post above, I assumed anyone was sick while flying. Like you said, you know what they say about assuming. It makes an A** out of U and ME.

Seriously though, I don't mean to offend anyone. I'm not upset with anyone that unknowingly gets on a plane sick and I also don't expect someone to avoid flying for 2 weeks after being ill. I guess my rule of thumb has always been to allow at least 24 hours of symptom-free time before "reentering the world". And, as some people have mentioned, you may be contagious for longer than that, but I think 24 hours could significantly cut down on other people catching it.

Also, from everything I have ever heard and read about stomach viruses, they are not airborne - infected mucus must somehow enter your body. Which is why GOOD handwashing and Purell do actually help decrease your chances of getting it. Unfortunately though, there are no guarantees.

I feel awful for anyone and everyone that is dealing with stomach bugs right now - they really stuck! I guess we can all just be thankful that it is something that will pass and everyone will get better. There are definitely worse, chronic illnesses to have.

:)
 
At Cape May I had to touch the serving utensils. Someone before me may have sneezed into their hands, then I touched the spoon, then I went back to my table and saw my son's yummy waffles cut up into piece and popped one in my mouth using my fingers to grab it instead of a fork as I should have. That is how germs spread. Or even if I rubbed my eye because my contacts itched. Germs are easily transfered. If I brought my food back, then washed my hands agian or used hand sanitizer perhaps now I would not be sick. Also it does not have to be mucus, salivia will do it too. Picking your nose, or rubbing your eye. Any body fluid or secretions. Well not any... techincallu urine is sterile.
 
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/printedition/2008/12/21/spotlight.html

Sick in flight: Airline passengers who fly while ill risk infecting others, and few cases are properly reported.

By Alison Young

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Sunday, December 21, 2008

After her recent flight arrived in Atlanta, a 57-year-old woman told paramedics she had been throwing up and felt nauseated. A virus had been afflicting her family.

“Everyone in the family has this,” she said.

On any given day, passengers battling contagious illnesses of all kinds pass through Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. Some are so sick that paramedics are called to their aid. But airlines routinely let sick passengers fly and rarely comply with regulations requiring that they notify the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of certain illnesses.

Airlines said it isn’t easy to know who is ill and what to report.

“People who are sick shouldn’t travel,” said Dr. Martin Cetron, director of the CDC’s division of global migration and quarantine. “It’s not good for you and your illness. It’s certainly not good for your fellow passengers.”

But sick people travel anyway. In October and November alone, medics responded to at least 75 reports of people at the airport complaining of vomiting, nausea, diarrhea, fever, sore throat and coughs. Some had most of these symptoms at once, according to Atlanta Fire-Rescue Department records.

One passenger had been sick since she went to California nearly a week earlier, but she still flew to Atlanta, having bouts of vomiting and diarrhea aboard the plane. Another had been sick for two weeks while in Peru, possibly from malaria, she thought. Despite a fever, she flew into Atlanta.

Airline industry officials said their employees aren’t trained medical professionals. How are they to know someone has a fever, unless it’s very high? Besides, they said, an airplane is no more likely to spread disease than any other crowded place.

Airlines can deny boarding to passengers, though none would say how often they do it.

“If somebody arrives for a flight sniffling a bit, it’s not necessarily going to attract attention or suspicion,” said Katherine Andrus, assistant general counsel for the Air Transport Association.

Federal regulations require airlines to immediately notify health officials of any passenger or crew illness involving diarrhea or a two-day fever or any fever with a rash, swollen glands or jaundice before their flight reaches an airport.

The CDC has requested that airlines also report anybody who has a fever plus difficulty breathing, headache with stiff neck, reduced level of consciousness or unexplained bleeding. Such symptoms “may indicate a serious, contagious illness,” the agency says.

While transmission of serious diseases aboard aircraft is believed to be rare, nobody knows how often colds, flu and the stomach bug norovirus are spread among passengers.

John Spengler, an environmental health professor at the Harvard School of Public Health, said close proximity for long periods of time gives airline travel special potential for spreading disease.

“Airlines have very good ventilation,” Spengler said, noting that recirculated air is repeatedly cleansed through HEPA filters on most planes. But there’s no getting around the tight confines of a coach class seat on a packed jet —-and the nasty sick person sitting next to you for hours.

CDC is concerned about identifying and stopping the spread of diseases ranging from measles, tuberculosis and bacterial meningitis, to SARS and rare hemorrhagic fevers like Ebola. Airline reporting is considered critical in responding to an influenza pandemic.

But airlines rarely report ill passengers so the CDC can assess them, said Cetron. “Most of what we learn about is after the fact” such as from hospitals, he said.

CDC doesn’t even get a full reporting of all deaths aboard aircraft, Cetron said.

From January through mid-October, the CDC’s quarantine program received 1,607 reports nationwide of travelers who were sick or died aboard airplanes, ships or other modes of transportation; 100 reports involved the quarantine station at Hartsfield, which serves Georgia, Tennessee and the Carolinas. Most of the cases, after being assessed, didn’t require further CDC intervention.

Last December, a very ill, coughing woman with multi-drug resistant tuberculosis flew from India to Chicago, then to California. One person who flew with her later became TB-positive on tests, though CDC officials said the traveler had lived in a country with a high TB rate, making the source of exposure unclear.

Seven months earlier, Andrew Speaker of Atlanta, who had no outward symptoms or cough, was isolated by federal authorities in a highly publicized incident after he flew to Greece and back with drug-resistant TB. Tests found nobody caught the disease from Speaker.

In 2004, a 38-year-old businessman sick with Lassa fever —-a viral hemorrhagic illness —-flew from West Africa through London to Newark. He had been sick for three days and continued to have fever, chills, sore throat, diarrhea and back pain aboard his flights. The airline did not report the incident to CDC, Cetron said. Within hours of arrival in the United States, the man was hospitalized. He had a temperature of 103.6 degrees and died a few days later.

Again, no passengers were infected. But a few studies have documented cases where serious diseases have been spread aboard aircraft, including tuberculosis, influenza and SARS.

In most cases, the scientific articles involve a single incident. So how often are diseases spread aboard aircraft?

“You ask anybody who flies and they all feel that this environment is the cause,” said Harvard’s Spengler. “But what proof do we have? Unfortunately, we don’t have much proof except for those case studies.”

Spengler is part of the multi-university Center of Excellence for Airliner Cabin Environment Research, which is examining how tiny droplets are spread in jets to devise better decontamination methods for aircraft surfaces.

While the scientific evidence is being gathered, Spengler, like other travel and health experts, takes his own protective measures. “I’m fastidious about washing my hands,” he said. And he uses a paper towel to open the lavatory door.

If a traveler shows signs of being infectious, Spengler cranks up the air nozzle above his seat to blow filtered air in his direction. “I’d rather have that little extra protection than not.”

SICK AT THE AIRPORT

Medics with the Atlanta Fire-Rescue Department respond to about 4,000 emergency calls a year involving people at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution used the Georgia Open Records Act to obtain the department’s database of reports for 2007 and 2008. The reports don’t give diagnoses, which often require lab work done elsewhere. Here are just a few:

> Sick pilot: In March, a 24-year-old pilot had been battling cold and flu symptoms, including a fever, for a day. He went to work anyway. After landing his plane in Atlanta, he fainted. A flight attendant told medics he was out for one to two minutes. The pilot and the airline were not identified in the data.

> Nasty cough: A 37-year-old man told medics in October he had body pain and was coughing up green sputum. He said he had caught malaria while working in Africa and that doctors had advised him to come back to the U.S. for treatment because his condition wasn’t improving.

> High fever: A 29-year-old man who was suffering from a fever of 102.8, dizziness, nausea and vomiting told paramedics in July he had been diagnosed with a virus five days earlier and he was out of his medication.

> Fainting while waiting: While standing in line at a Delta counter, a 26-year-old man passed out in January, chipping his tooth on the counter as he fell. The man told medics he had been diagnosed with strep throat several days ago and said he still had a fever.

> Possible chickenpox: Customs officials called medics in August to check out a 4-year-old boy who had flown in from Nigeria with his mother, who said he might have chickenpox.

WHAT YOU CAN DO

“You can’t control what people bring on an airplane, but you can have some control,” said Heidi Giles MacFarlane, vice president of global response services for MedAire, a firm that provides medical consulting to airlines.

Last year MedAire received more than 17,000 in-flight calls from the 74 global airlines it serves.

Travel and health experts advise:

> Don’t travel if you’re sick. Think about other passengers who are particularly vulnerable: People with immune systems weakened by disease, cancer treatment or transplants; very young children and the elderly.

> Tell your airline: Airlines will sometimes allow ill passengers to postpone or change their flight and waive any fees, but they do it on a case-by-case basis and may require a doctor’s note.

WHAT YOU CAN DO

> Buy travel insurance. At the time you book your trip, purchase insurance that covers the cost of your ticket if you become ill or injured. For trips abroad, get travel insurance that will cover your medical evacuation back to the United States.

> Wash your hands. And do it properly: With soap and warm, running water for at least 20 seconds. Carry an alcohol-based hand sanitizer as a backup.

> Avoid touching surfaces. Not everyone washes their hands in the bathroom —- but they probably grabbed the door handle when they left. Use a paper towel to open the door. And avoid touching other surfaces that may harbor bacteria or viruses, such as airline tray tables and airport ticket counters.

> Ask for another seat. If another passenger is so ill that it makes you uncomfortable, speak up. Alert airline staff, especially before boarding. If the person is seated next to you, ask if you can be moved.

> Get a flu shot. With peak flu season approaching, it’s still not too late.

> Know the local diseases. If traveling to other countries, you may need other shots or medicines to protect you. The CDC has detailed advice at: wwwn.cdc.gov/travel/default.aspx
 
Wash your hands alot. Wash your hands before you eat. Wipe down phone and other hard surfaces in your hotel with travel cleaning wipes the first day as you arrive.
I am not germ phobic but I have been known to wipe down the flip down tray on a plane before eating.
Dont eat at buffets if truly worried.


It does suck getting sick on vacation but I refuse to let the threat of possibly getting sick deter me from what could amazing memories.
Everyone has different views of what being sick is. I have family members who call in sick to work if they even has the sniffles.

I myself have gone into work sick. Why? Because my job is very strict on use of sick days and has recently fired 3 otherwise excellent employees who by no fault of their own, had used up their days and needed to call in again.
Life happens. I do think of the immunocompromised people but they have to be taking care of themselves too and watching out for themselves in the general public.
 
Lastminutemom - Thanks for sharing that excellent article!

ERMama - If I might ask, what type of job do you do? I totally understand why you would go into work sick as loss of job must be scary, but this exactly why people continue to pass major illnesses around. It's so sad to me that our society is all about finances, instead of doing what is right for ourselves and others. It's bad that you have to go to work sick as you need to be able to take care of yourself, but it's even worse that you go into work sick and expose others to illness. It's a neverending cycle - you go into work sick so as not to lose your job, then you infect a coworker who does the same, and on and on it goes...

Happy health to all, Tiger
 
ERMama - If I might ask, what type of job do you do? I totally understand why you would go into work sick as loss of job must be scary, but this exactly why people continue to pass major illnesses around. It's so sad to me that our society is all about finances, instead of doing what is right for ourselves and others. It's bad that you have to go to work sick as you need to be able to take care of yourself, but it's even worse that you go into work sick and expose others to illness. It's a neverending cycle - you go into work sick so as not to lose your job, then you infect a coworker who does the same, and on and on it goes...

Happy health to all, Tiger

Yes I work in the ER. The GI bug worked thru quite a few coworkers in the last 2 weeks. But who is to say who we got it from? Patients or coworkers.
I have worn a mask around my patients when ill. Asked other coworkers to help out if a patient is immunocompromised.
We work in an enviroment where you are going to probably get more than your fair share of illnesses. Mostly its basic URI junk. If a coworker is vomiting they usually go home. Diarrhea, well, it depends on how bad it is, Ive had some coworkers try to ride it out for a few hours.
Last week I woke up just before my shift and I had a fever. But since our adoption this year and a shoulder injury last month, I dont have anymore sick time. And sadly, our upper management is playing hardball and doesnt care why you cant come to work if you call in and if you go over your allotted sick time, you are either fired or get other disciplinary action. Unless its over 3 days of being out they wont look at a doctors excuse. So people can call in sick for whatever. That leaves people who truly are sick placed in a corner of having to come in sometimes when maybe they shouldnt.
Is that really the safest for patients? NO!
 
Yes I work in the ER. The GI bug worked thru quite a few coworkers in the last 2 weeks. But who is to say who we got it from? Patients or coworkers.
I have worn a mask around my patients when ill. Asked other coworkers to help out if a patient is immunocompromised.
We work in an enviroment where you are going to probably get more than your fair share of illnesses. Mostly its basic URI junk. If a coworker is vomiting they usually go home. Diarrhea, well, it depends on how bad it is, Ive had some coworkers try to ride it out for a few hours.
Last week I woke up just before my shift and I had a fever. But since our adoption this year and a shoulder injury last month, I dont have anymore sick time. And sadly, our upper management is playing hardball and doesnt care why you cant come to work if you call in and if you go over your allotted sick time, you are either fired or get other disciplinary action. Unless its over 3 days of being out they wont look at a doctors excuse. So people can call in sick for whatever. That leaves people who truly are sick placed in a corner of having to come in sometimes when maybe they shouldnt.
Is that really the safest for patients? NO!

Yikes! That is a horrible situation and I feel very badly for you. It sounds like the sick day program hasn't been maintained well enough and has turned into a free for all and so it can be used for any excuse as you said. This makes it hard for those of you who are truly sick. I feel very badly for you and very angry with your hospital management team that they put you and the rest of us who you are treating in this position. I guess it's job security all the way around - if you want your job, you'll come into work sick, and then you infect or reinfect those of us who are at the hospital, which means more business for the hospital!

I wish you and your colleagues good health during this difficult cold and flu season and thank you for all that you do in the ER (we visit our ER quite often as our baby struggles with respiratory and ear difficulties).

Tiger :(
 
Yes I work in the ER. The GI bug worked thru quite a few coworkers in the last 2 weeks. But who is to say who we got it from? Patients or coworkers.
I have worn a mask around my patients when ill. Asked other coworkers to help out if a patient is immunocompromised.
We work in an enviroment where you are going to probably get more than your fair share of illnesses. Mostly its basic URI junk. If a coworker is vomiting they usually go home. Diarrhea, well, it depends on how bad it is, Ive had some coworkers try to ride it out for a few hours.
Last week I woke up just before my shift and I had a fever. But since our adoption this year and a shoulder injury last month, I dont have anymore sick time. And sadly, our upper management is playing hardball and doesnt care why you cant come to work if you call in and if you go over your allotted sick time, you are either fired or get other disciplinary action. Unless its over 3 days of being out they wont look at a doctors excuse. So people can call in sick for whatever. That leaves people who truly are sick placed in a corner of having to come in sometimes when maybe they shouldnt.
Is that really the safest for patients? NO!

I totally understand. I used to work day care, and it was the same way. We had no sick days, and were expected to work sick or be penalized. Honestly, some decisions are financial. It's silly to expect people to lose their job because their bosses are jerks. We have to provide for our families.

It is not uncommon for teachers or doctors or nurses to work sick. We are exposed to sickness every day. It's part of the job to be in contact with puke and runny noses and all that comes with sick people. And it's part of our job to have to work when we feel terrible sometimes. I'm sure most people in this situation do their best not to spread their germs.

Also, I'm pretty sure that most of them don't come to work when they are puking as that would be pretty darn difficult! :guilty:

As for the Nowalk Virus...a prayer for all that have it. Sounds miserable. I hope that it passes before we get there in three weeks.
 
Yes I work in the ER. The GI bug worked thru quite a few coworkers in the last 2 weeks. But who is to say who we got it from? Patients or coworkers.
I have worn a mask around my patients when ill. Asked other coworkers to help out if a patient is immunocompromised.
We work in an enviroment where you are going to probably get more than your fair share of illnesses. Mostly its basic URI junk. If a coworker is vomiting they usually go home. Diarrhea, well, it depends on how bad it is, Ive had some coworkers try to ride it out for a few hours.
Last week I woke up just before my shift and I had a fever. But since our adoption this year and a shoulder injury last month, I dont have anymore sick time. And sadly, our upper management is playing hardball and doesnt care why you cant come to work if you call in and if you go over your allotted sick time, you are either fired or get other disciplinary action. Unless its over 3 days of being out they wont look at a doctors excuse. So people can call in sick for whatever. That leaves people who truly are sick placed in a corner of having to come in sometimes when maybe they shouldnt.
Is that really the safest for patients? NO!
I am with you on this.My hospital is the same with their policy.It makes it rough because I work on the Oncology unit and I don't like to go to work sick with the patients that have no immune system.
 
The first time I went to WDW, two people in our party got sick. I was better by the time we left, but the other person was very sick on our travel day. My travel insurance document says "Injury or Sickness must be so disabling as to reasonably cause a Trip to be canceled or interrupted..." I have a feeling that if we told them she was vomiting that morning, they would say that wasn't enough of a reason, and would decline to cover the $150 it would cost to change to a later flight. Sometimes you just have to do whatever you can do. :confused3
 
We just returned from WDW on Sunday night and I was appalled at the disgusting things I saw. I have been a lurker for a while, but this thread hit home for me. This was our first WDW trip and it was a great one, but trying to keep my two boys from getting sick was FULL TIME!!

The one that got me the most was the mother that ushered her visibly sick son (about 10-12 years old) to a tree next to the entrance of the All Star Movies Food Court where he continued to vomit for about 10 minutes. She didn't try to get him out of the way, she didn't try to get him to a bathroom, to their room, to a toilet, to a garbage can, out of the WALKING PATH TO THE FOOD COURT or anything!!! I then alerted the front desk that there was a huge vomit mess to clean up - they obviously only hosed it off because you could still see the stain and chunks where he had puked - totally disgusting!!

What is worse is that the next day people (unaware) were traipsing through the puke area and right INTO the FOOD COURT!! So, if you stayed at ASMo and got the stomach virus, you can thank that Mom of the Year nominee.

We've only been home two days, and I'm praying we dont' get sick, although when I came into work Monday, three co-workers were sick (one with stomach virus, one with strep and one with Mono) and they were all at their desks, but that's another thread.....

oy vey - wash your hands and carry alcohol based hand sanitizer:teacher:
 
We just returned from WDW on Sunday night and I was appalled at the disgusting things I saw. I have been a lurker for a while, but this thread hit home for me. This was our first WDW trip and it was a great one, but trying to keep my two boys from getting sick was FULL TIME!!

The one that got me the most was the mother that ushered her visibly sick son (about 10-12 years old) to a tree next to the entrance of the All Star Movies Food Court where he continued to vomit for about 10 minutes. She didn't try to get him out of the way, she didn't try to get him to a bathroom, to their room, to a toilet, to a garbage can, out of the WALKING PATH TO THE FOOD COURT or anything!!! I then alerted the front desk that there was a huge vomit mess to clean up - they obviously only hosed it off because you could still see the stain and chunks where he had puked - totally disgusting!!

What is worse is that the next day people (unaware) were traipsing through the puke area and right INTO the FOOD COURT!! So, if you stayed at ASMo and got the stomach virus, you can thank that Mom of the Year nominee.

We've only been home two days, and I'm praying we dont' get sick, although when I came into work Monday, three co-workers were sick (one with stomach virus, one with strep and one with Mono) and they were all at their desks, but that's another thread.....

oy vey - wash your hands and carry alcohol based hand sanitizer:teacher:

Yuck! This is a big problem!

I just posted on one of the other threads about this (there are several running right now), that Wet Ones Wipes kill norovirus due to a special active ingredient. Here is the link to the blog explaining it all:

http://writersblock15.wordpress.com/

Alcohol does not kill the norovirus, so using alcohol based hand sanitizers for these typse of viruses are useless.

Wash those hands! Happy health to all, Tiger
 
We just returned from Disney (Pop) on Saturday and my DH caught a NASTY GI bug around Wednesday or Thursday and was stuck in the room the last couple of days...I wasn't sure we were going to make it home but he managed to make it.

Add to that when I got home I found out my oldest son (who had stayed home) had HORRIBLE tonsils...took him to the ER and turns out he has mono. :confused3
 


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