Is Disney World Really Closing Resorts?

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Is the rumor that I heard today true? Is Walt Disney World really planning to close Port Orleans and the Pop Century to save money? I realize that the U.S. economy has seen better days so I thought that it could be true, but Disney World business has survived the 2001 terrorists attacks and resulting fear that went on for months afterwards.
 
Yes, and they shuttered a couple of resorts or parts of resorts after 9/11 as well. Better that they shut down a couple of resorts rather than lay people off and have less people spread out to cover more resorts. If the customers aren't there, it doesn't cost less (or not much less anyway) to run an empty hotel than a full one.
 
so what do they do with the reservations they have for the places they close?
 
When are they closing these resorts? I have a trip upcoming and I haven't seen anything on this.
 

PLEASE tell me this isn't true. Port Orleans? Riverside and French Quarter? Oh, please, please, please tell me it isn't so.

It's not true, is it???????? :confused3 :scared1: :eek: :headache:
 
Far as I know nothing is confirmed.
 
After 9/11 they closed down POFQ and used that time to do a refurb of the resort. My brother was transfered to AKL for his honeymoon, but most others were transfered to other resorts in the same category...

It's better to consolidate the cast members than to lay them off and have service suffer because they are spread too thin.
 
This is all just rumor right now. There is nothing to hear because they've not announced (and likely wouldn't announce) anything. We'd more than likely end up hearing it through the grapevine after the fact.
This thread really belongs in the rumor forum, where there are in fact at least two threads discussing this very thing.
 
There is another thread about this same subject. The original poster said they had heard it from someone who worked at Disney. As far as I know, the original poster hasn't said anything else about the "rumor".

The people who posted on the other thread said they had visited WDW right after 9/11 and they were given reservations at another Disney resort.
 
Yes, and they shuttered a couple of resorts or parts of resorts after 9/11 as well. Better that they shut down a couple of resorts rather than lay people off and have less people spread out to cover more resorts. If the customers aren't there, it doesn't cost less (or not much less anyway) to run an empty hotel than a full one.

And you know this because? Or, as you mentioned earlier, this is nothing more than just a rumor and pure speculation on your part?

Besides, shutting down a resort just doesn't make sense (yet, at least). If I remember right, the company's last earnings call said the parks were holding up OK, but the networks were hurting from lack of ad revenue. In their November earnings call, Disney execs mentioned that revenue from the parks was holding up quite well, off around only 1% from last year, but they were worried about deteriorating consumer confidence causing some problems, especially the decline Disney saw in advanced bookings. To deal with these concerns, Disney execs announced that they were "also putting in place new marketing initiatives and accompanying pricing incentives, designed to stimulate bookings and attendance during the first half of 2009." There's the 4/3 deal.
So, at least in November, there's no real evidence that Disney management is yet considering closing resorts (or parks for that matter). They just launched a MAJOR promotion to drum up business. With all Disney invested in the 4/3 promo, I believe that they will let this promo play out, unless it was a horrible flop. While I strongly believe the Disney exec team has contingency plans for closing properties should the economy get super-fugly, all signs point to more surgical cost cutting measures coupled with heavy promotions to help keep the parks in the black. Remember, Disney won't touch anything until attendance falls to a point where they start to lose money (and none of know where that point is). Also, there are a lot of costs associated with shuttering a property, and additional costs to revive it when demand picks up. Only a fool would act without clearer visibility into our economic future.

So, in a nutshell, all of these rumors are just a giant load. Pay attention to what the company says on their earning calls, that's were the real juicy news can be had:
http://corporate.disney.go.com/investors/archive.html
http://corporate.disney.go.com/investors/quarterly_earnings/081106_transcript_earnings.pdf

If you're really interested in all of this, mark your calendars for Tuesday, February 3, 2009 at approximately 4:15 p.m. EST. That's when Disney will announce Q1 earnings. By then, they should have a much clearer picture from advanced bookings through the summer and they will know how the 4/3 deal worked for them.

For a lot of companies, February will be sort of a corporate Groundhog's Day. By then, many companies should have a feel for how bad the economy is and will likely be moving forward. Accurate news on holiday retail will be available, for example, and Disney will have much better visibility into park performance for the rest of the year. If you want to dive into rumors and speculation, wait for that date, then sift through Disney's quarterly financials looking for all the clues you want, chances are, they will actually be there. But for now, based on what I've seen on this forum, these rumors are lacking in anything to back them.

And, by the way, if or when something does happen, such as closing a resort, Disney will definitely announce it. They have no choice, as a publicly traded company,they are legally bound to announce such events.
 
OP, can I ask where you read this information? We are staying at POP in 3 weeks, so it's definitely still open.
 
griz_fan said:
And you know this because? Or, as you mentioned earlier, this is nothing more than just a rumor and pure speculation on your part?
Geez, I said it was a rumor and even said it belonged on the rumor boards. Wouldn't that lead you to believe I thought it was just a rumor and speculation? If not, I'll reiterate that I have no special knowledge of Disney resort operations and any post made by me is of no factual worth.
Good enough for you?
 
Geez, I said it was a rumor and even said it belonged on the rumor boards. Wouldn't that lead you to believe I thought it was just a rumor and speculation? If not, I'll reiterate that I have no special knowledge of Disney resort operations and any post made by me is of no factual worth.
Good enough for you?

I think the PP was going by your first post where you seemed to indicate with certainty that these resorts were closing. You said:

Yes, and they shuttered a couple of resorts or parts of resorts after 9/11 as well.

I see where you clarified later but I can see why someone might think you new this for a fact instead of as a rumour.
 
OP, can I ask where you read this information? We are staying at POP in 3 weeks, so it's definitely still open.

My husband got the news from Passporter's web site. I realize that that web site is apparently crawling with travel agents more likely than the general public to know things. However, travel agents no doubt have their own rumor mills.
 
No resorts were closed post 9/11 !!!! I don't know where you folks get your info ???? POFQ was scheduled to have thier pool rehabed and at the same time the restaurant was taken out. The resort itself was never closed !

There is no reason for Disney to close any resorts. Not book certain buildings maybe, but NEVER close.
 
My husband got the news from Passporter's web site. I realize that that web site is apparently crawling with travel agents more likely than the general public to know things. However, travel agents no doubt have their own rumor mills.

Perhaps you could quote the information from that site? It might be helpful to see how it is worded.
 
Mike©;29248267 said:
No resorts were closed post 9/11 !!!! I don't know where you folks get your info ???? POFQ was scheduled to have thier pool rehabed and at the same time the restaurant was taken out. The resort itself was never closed !

There is no reason for Disney to close any resorts. Not book certain buildings maybe, but NEVER close.

French Quarter did close shortly after 9/11 and buildings at Riverside closed one or two at a time to have their roofs replaced. Also construction stopped at Pop Century. I get that information from memory.

Here's a paragraph from a Deb Wills article on AllEarsNet dated 1/22/2002
"Neither Walt Disney World, nor the The Disney Company itself, was immune to the economic downturn. The company told its part-time employees not to report to work until further notice. It cut back park hours, closed certain attractions and restaurants, discontinued the Early Entry theme park program. In addition, WDW closed Port Orleans French Quarter resort completely, while closing substantial sections of Port Orleans Riverside and the Disney Institute. Construction on a new resort, Pop Century, has ceased and its opening postponed indefinitely."

You can read the entire article here http://allears.net/ae/issue122.htm.

This latest rumor about resorts closing is so far just a rumor. When POFQ closed before they moved people to other mods or upgraded them to deluxe for a nominal fee. My cousin was moved from POFQ to Poly for about $12 per night extra. I'm not sure exactly how much it was but $12 sounds about right.
 
Geez, I said it was a rumor and even said it belonged on the rumor boards. Wouldn't that lead you to believe I thought it was just a rumor and speculation? If not, I'll reiterate that I have no special knowledge of Disney resort operations and any post made by me is of no factual worth.
Good enough for you?

Ah OK. Your first post definately answers yes to the question asked, are resorts closing soon, and then you elaborated citing precident from past events. No biggie just a misunderstanding, good to know they won't be asking me to move resorts... yet ;). I wouldn't be crushed if they did. It'd be to another mod (im at pofq in the spring) or a dvc resort like ssr. Either way id still be at disney and im sure they wouldnt move me to a value considering i paid for a mod.

BTW, i would have been thrilled if you had special knowledge of it :).
 
Im not sure why people ask on a public forum to confirm a rumor?..Go to the source..As for shutdowns, they never did finish the Legendary Years, post 9-11..I thought I saw them painting it when we drove by last week, if thats any indication..
 
French Quarter did close shortly after 9/11 and buildings at Riverside closed one or two at a time to have their roofs replaced. Also construction stopped at Pop Century. I get that information from memory.

You are totally correct. My DH and I were at Port Orleans Riverside 4 days after 9/11 and POFQ was closed. It was so shocking and sad to see no activity over there. :sad1:
 

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