International flts. from Ireland...able to use Disney's Magical Express?

MEG&MINNIE

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I am thinking of booking my cousins from Ireland a room for 1 week , possibly at CBR, along with my family. I was hoping that as long as they stay at a WDW resort they will get free Disney Transportation from and back to the airport. Is that true. I have not booked them yet and I do not know what airline they will be using . They will be arriving July 24 from Ireland for a 6 nite stay in Orlando. What should I do to see if they have free Magical Express like us.

Thanks:)
 
Anyone staying at a Disney resort is able to use Magical Express to and from the airport. I thought I read somewhere that international travelers aren't able to take advantage of the luggage delivery service, but I'm not 100% positive about that.

ETA: I checked my DME booklet from the last time I went to WDW, and it says that international travelers need to go through customs (assuming that Orlando is where they're entering the US), and claim their luggage when they get off the airplane. But once they've completed that process, they give their luggage back to the airport officials and proceed to the DME area, and then DME will be able to collect their luggage.
 
Thanks for the quick response. I guess I would tell the WDW travel planner (if I do book them) and she would tell me how to go about it. I suppose I'd need to know their time of arrival on the 24th of July. They will probably be delayed going thru customs...would that be taken into consideration?
 
Well, you'll need their flight information to book DME, but they're not assigned to a specific bus, so they can take as much time as they need getting to the DME area.
 

Flights to the United States from Dublin or Shannon are pre-cleared in Ireland. United States Customs & Immigration operate at those two airports and you legally enter the United States before you get on the plane in Ireland. When the plane lands in the U.S., it can go to a domestic flight gate and there are no further formalities here.

BobK/Orlando
 
Flights to the United States from Dublin or Shannon are pre-cleared in Ireland. United States Customs & Immigration operate at those two airports and you legally enter the United States before you get on the plane in Ireland. When the plane lands in the U.S., it can go to a domestic flight gate and there are no further formalities here.

BobK/Orlando

Does that apply to Belfast also?
 
yep u can use me from ireland im doing that this september as flying true dublin was the cheaest for me
 
Just a note that, on the way home, the ME bus will pick them up FOUR hours (rather than the usual THREE hours) before their flight, since it is international.

Also, they will not be able to use RAC (therefore, they'll have to take their bags with them on the bus back to MCO).

Also, especially, if they are flying through an airport with pre-clearance for US customs/immigration, they'll likely want to call WDW and have them send the yellow DME luggage tags. These are not automatically sent out to people overseas, but you can ask them to send them.
 
Flights to the United States from Dublin or Shannon are pre-cleared in Ireland. United States Customs & Immigration operate at those two airports and you legally enter the United States before you get on the plane in Ireland. When the plane lands in the U.S., it can go to a domestic flight gate and there are no further formalities here.

BobK/Orlando

Indeed.

I'm one of those many international guests regularly dropping into WDW. Actually these days fly Aer Lingus (Irish airline) that connects through at DUB.

Preclearing is a great thing! After that you will arrive at MCO as a domestic flight. But if they haven't considered it; they are doing wise to make sure to leave enough time arriving in time at the airport to go through preclearance. It helps a lot if they are departing from said airport instead of connecting through but sometimes it can take a bit longer if something needs a bit of an extra check up or you need to wait for something. Have to say though; the atmosphere there is totally different than clearing at any US airport within the US. A lot less work pressure for sure makes a big change.

As far as DME goes; Disney no longer sends the DME labels overseas. So no choice of having DME use those to automatically have your luggage picked out and delivered. If desired your family can hand in the baggage stubs the airline gave them and DME will use those to track down the bags and it will proceed as you are used to as US guests. However because of not being able to use the DME tags it can add quite some time (to give you an idea, back in 2009 when we still could use the tags, we had 4 suitcases labeled and delivered to our room about 5 minutes after getting there, the 5th non labeled suitcase would not show up until 3 hours later, big downer when you check in around midnight).

The other option is to collect their luggage themselves and proceed to DME check in and take the luggage on the bus with themselves. I've been doing that ever since no more tags for us overseas and it's by far the quickest option. Asking, begging, whatever, nothing helps. Tags will not be send overseas.

Obviously you need to check flight info with them, but that's more to give DME an idea of when to expect them than them actually being scheduled on a specific bus. I'm putting my money on them flying IE (Aer Lingus), which would have them arriving at 5 pm on the EI120. It's one of the direct flights, IE is relatively cheap (dirt cheap if flying business class) and has a good product.

The arrival time and domestic clearance does add up for time being saved. Last year I was at the YC about 1 hour 40 minutes after the jetway got connected to the plane. And that is considering I am the last passenger to leave the plane (need assistance, so first on last off), use up more time getting my powerchair from travelsafe to use mode and DME actually having to wait some time for a bus with lift. Wasn't even the first resort to be dropped of either.


Oh and if booking DME for them; give them the heads up that DME will schedule all for a departure of 3 hours before flight departure time. Including those guests on international flights. Best thing to do is call DME on the day before check out when getting the DME-letter and having them move it up to 4 hours prior to departure (so if flying EI it would become a pick up at 4 pm for the 7 pm flight). The number is in the letter and when calling and saying international travel, most will not even let you finish and already suggest moving the pick up time to an earlier one. Most of the times it's not that much needed, but if the ride to the airport takes longer and it takes longer than normal to go through customs it can easily add up.
 
:thumbsup2 Thanks to all of you for your quick and detailed responses....I now have a much better idea of what to do and what is needed for my cousins International Flt.from Ireland.

:thumbsup2 I can always count on my " Disboard Friends "...Now I just hope that they will stay on Disney property with me (not off-site...big mistake:confused: )
 
The first order of business is to make the (advance) Magical Express reservation for the day of arrival. You can make an educated guess for the hour of arrival.

However because of not being able to use the DME tags it can add quite some time (to give you an idea, back in 2009 when we still could use the tags, we had 4 suitcases labeled and delivered to our room about 5 minutes after getting there, the 5th non labeled suitcase would not show up until 3 hours later, big downer when you check in around midnight).
The norm for Magical Express baggage delivery to your room is 3 hours after you can get up there.

At some resorts (Pop Century, Art of Animation, All Star) if baggage delivery would want to occur after 10 PM it will be delayed until after 6 AM.
goofieslonglostsis said:
Oh and if booking DME for them; give them the heads up that DME will schedule all for a departure of 3 hours before flight departure time. Including those guests on international flights. Best thing to do is call DME on the day before check out when getting the DME-letter and having them move it up to 4 hours prior to departure (so if flying EI it would become a pick up at 3 pm for the 7 pm flight). The number is in the letter and when calling and saying international travel, most will not even let you finish and already suggest moving the pick up time to an earlier one. Most of the times it's not that much needed, but if the ride to the airport takes longer and it takes longer than normal to go through customs it can easily add up.
For all DME guests it is always necessary to re-verify the bus time on the letter delivered to your room the morning of the day before check out day. Sometimes they goof. Get it corrected that morning before heading to the parks. For peace of mind you can always get a bus time earlier still.
 
The norm for Magical Express baggage delivery to your room is 3 hours after you can get up in there.

At some resorts (Pop Century, Art of Animation, All Star) if baggage delivery would want to occur after 10 PM it will be delayed until after 6 AM.

All known facts. ;-) I think you missed my point a bit, which was "having DME pick up your luggage without tags from baggage claim and having them delivered to your room will add more time than you can expect when using the tags". Which is not just our experience, but something that is pointed out in the DME booklet -or better said; at least it was, since I haven't seen a version after 2009 when we used a US TA and thus got it one last time-. And obviously it's common sence that tagless baggage is more labour productive and thus will very likely result in slower delivery than in the same circumstances but with tag.


MEG is a US customer and thus will most likely use the tags. When having no experience as international guests and not being able to use the tags, it can be a nasty surprise that it tends to take longer to deliver luggage. Even more so for international guest that can easily deal with having been on a long travelday(s), being jetlagged etc. and having to wait longer on your bags can easily be an unwelcome happening. Seeing how MEG wants to surprise family somewhat and help make it a smooth experience, I mentioned the difference knowing most US guests don't realise. That way MEG also knows that and her cousins can make an informed decision based on what fits their needs and wants.
 
All known facts. ;-) I think you missed my point a bit, which was "having DME pick up your luggage without tags from baggage claim and having them delivered to your room will add more time than you can expect when using the tags". Which is not just our experience, but something that is pointed out in the DME booklet -or better said; at least it was, since I haven't seen a version after 2009 when we used a US TA and thus got it one last time-. And obviously it's common sence that tagless baggage is more labour productive and thus will very likely result in slower delivery than in the same circumstances but with tag.


MEG is a US customer and thus will most likely use the tags. When having no experience as international guests and not being able to use the tags, it can be a nasty surprise that it tends to take longer to deliver luggage. Even more so for international guest that can easily deal with having been on a long travelday(s), being jetlagged etc. and having to wait longer on your bags can easily be an unwelcome happening. Seeing how MEG wants to surprise family somewhat and help make it a smooth experience, I mentioned the difference knowing most US guests don't realise. That way MEG also knows that and her cousins can make an informed decision based on what fits their needs and wants.
The one thing to keep in mind is that DME no longer even touches a bag after 10pm...so if you arrive at midnight, it doesn't much matter where you're coming from. You are going to have to get your own bags..unless you want them to spend the night at MCO and get delivered first thing the next day.
 
The one thing to keep in mind is that DME no longer even touches a bag after 10pm...so if you arrive at midnight, it doesn't much matter where you're coming from. You are going to have to get your own bags..unless you want them to spend the night at MCO and get delivered first thing the next day.

Also a known fact for me personally (the experience posted was back in 09, so I thin the last year before they started the 10pm cut off?) but can't hurt to mention again in case it is of use for others.

If cousins are indeed flying IE, this should be of no extra influence with a scheduled arrival time of 5 pm (let's touch wood before jinxing them with 5+ hours delay ;) )
 
Oh and if booking DME for them; give them the heads up that DME will schedule all for a departure of 3 hours before flight departure time. Including those guests on international flights.

This is not true. As I said earlier, they schedule international travelers on buses FOUR hours before flight time. This is based both on my experience, the experience of many other posters and what it says in the DME literature. It is possible that something went wrong with your trip, but the standard (assuming that you've told them that it is an international flight) is four hours ahead of flight time.
 
This is not true. As I said earlier, they schedule international travelers on buses FOUR hours before flight time. This is based both on my experience, the experience of many other posters and what it says in the DME literature. It is possible that something went wrong with your trip, but the standard (assuming that you've told them that it is an international flight) is four hours ahead of flight time.

This makes a very interesting situation, to say the least. Not only were our 6 trips all scheduled at 3 hours out, it's the same experience I keep getting back consequently from other friends fellow countrymen/women. It even incidently was (one of the many) subject of chatter with some other guests scheduled on the same return flight in the airport lounge and on the plane.

I could see 3-hour-scheduling happening for those of us scheduled on flights with a connection within the US (after all, how is DME to know whether you are heading back home or onto a next destination within the US), but the difference obviously does not get made by that factor when looking at the large number of us that consequently get booked at 3 hours out.

Personally don't consider it that big of a problem as it has become the norm and just take 1 minute out to call DME and have them move the pick up time forward one hour, but it does surprise me to find out that apparently there are 2 norm practices.
 














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