Indiana Jones 5 release date confirmed

[rteetz]

News

Release date for Indiana Jones confirmed. July 19th, 2019.

http://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories/disney-confirms-release-date-for-indiana-jones-5/

 

[skier_pete]

News

Release date for Indiana Jones confirmed. July 19th, 2019.

http://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories/disney-confirms-release-date-for-indiana-jones-5/

God I LOVE Indiana Jones, but I can't say I am looking forward to this much. Harrison Ford will be 75 this year - 77 when the movie comes out. I don't really need to see old man Indiana Jones running around. (It doesn't help that Crystal Skull was so tone-deaf.)

 

[jknezek]

My problem with Indiana Jones is the first one is a great movie (though give The Big Bang Theory credit for publicizing the massive plot problem in the entire movie). The second is OK at best, generally I consider it bad. The third is very good. The fourth was very bad. So we've had 4 movies and 2 are very good or better, and 2 are bad or worse. Hopefully the pattern holds and this one is on the good side, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

News

Release date for Indiana Jones confirmed. July 19th, 2019.

http://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories/disney-confirms-release-date-for-indiana-jones-5/

Oh gosh either just recast Indy or let it die.

Indy is so like James Bond movies it'd be an easy recast. Hell, they recast Han Solo.

 

[skier_pete]

My problem with Indiana Jones is the first one is a great movie (though give The Big Bang Theory credit for publicizing the massive plot problem in the entire movie). The second is OK at best, generally I consider it bad. The third is very good. The fourth was very bad. So we've had 4 movies and 2 are very good or better, and 2 are bad or worse. Hopefully the pattern holds and this one is on the good side, but I'm not holding my breath.

(I apologize in advance for how OT this is...but I can't help myself.)

So Big Bang wasn't the first place that theory was postulated. (That Indiana Jones in the end has no effect on events.) It was just sort of popularized from that. But in fact BBT's Amy is completely incorrect in summarizing the movie - but I won't get into that here. However, you can read one rebuttal here:
http://www.indiewire.com/2015/02/indiana-jones-and-the-misunderstood-character-arc-133065/

I also think the 2nd movie is GREAT. It lags quite a bit in the middle, but it's a rip roaring adventure film for 3/4 of it's run time. (It's also the film I have seen the most times in the theater - seeing it 11 times in the summer of 1984) The third movie I loved at the time it came out, but watching it today it's to me the weakest of the 3, too much jokey joke, and too much repeating of the first movie, but still a solid yarn. I haven't seen Crystal Skull since the theaters even though I own (inherited) a copy on DVD, but I am sort of afraid to watch it.

 

[Redcon1]

(I apologize in advance for how OT this is...but I can't help myself.)

So Big Bang wasn't the first place that theory was postulated. (That Indiana Jones in the end has no effect on events.) It was just sort of popularized from that. But in fact BBT's Amy is completely incorrect in summarizing the movie - but I won't get into that here. However, you can read one rebuttal here:
http://www.indiewire.com/2015/02/indiana-jones-and-the-misunderstood-character-arc-133065/

I also think the 2nd movie is GREAT. It lags quite a bit in the middle, but it's a rip roaring adventure film for 3/4 of it's run time. (It's also the film I have seen the most times in the theater - seeing it 11 times in the summer of 1984) The third movie I loved at the time it came out, but watching it today it's to me the weakest of the 3, too much jokey joke, and too much repeating of the first movie, but still a solid yarn. I haven't seen Crystal Skull since the theaters even though I own (inherited) a copy on DVD, but I am sort of afraid to watch it.

Actually, in three of the films, Indy has no bearing on the demise of the main villains. In one, three and four, it's either supernatural or aliens. Only in the second, does Indy have a influence (on the rope bridge), but he still uses an incantation to heat the Sankara Stones which leads to Mola Ram's death.

Maybe for the new film, they'll use Harrison Ford as a framing device to introduce a flashback, where a new, younger Indy will handle most of the action.

 

[skier_pete]

Actually, in three of the films, Indy has no bearing on the demise of the main villains. In one, three and four, it's either supernatural or aliens. Only in the second, does Indy have a influence (on the rope bridge), but he still uses an incantation to heat the Sankara Stones which leads to Mola Ram's death.

Maybe for the new film, they'll use Harrison Ford as a framing device to introduce a flashback, where a new, younger Indy will handle most of the action.

Well, Indy make sure Donovan gets it when he and Elsa purposefully pick the wrong grail.

I would love if they did that for the new movie - made much of the story in flashback - but the impression I've gotten is that is not the intention. Didn't Spielberg or Kathleen Kennedy or someone come out and say "Indiana Jones IS Harrison Ford"?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Actually, in three of the films, Indy has no bearing on the demise of the main villains. In one, three and four, it's either supernatural or aliens. Only in the second, does Indy have a influence (on the rope bridge), but he still uses an incantation to heat the Sankara Stones which leads to Mola Ram's death.

Maybe for the new film, they'll use Harrison Ford as a framing device to introduce a flashback, where a new, younger Indy will handle most of the action.

Well, Indy make sure Donovan gets it when he and Elsa purposefully pick the wrong grail.

I would love if they did that for the new movie - made much of the story in flashback - but the impression I've gotten is that is not the intention. Didn't Spielberg or Kathleen Kennedy or someone come out and say "Indiana Jones IS Harrison Ford"?

Plus they sorta did the whole flashback thing with the Young Indiana Jones television show

Maybe make him more of a mentor to his replacement - like Bruce Wayne is for the new Batman in Bayman Beyond

 

[skier_pete]

Plus they sorta did the whole flashback thing with the Young Indiana Jones television show

Maybe make him more of a mentor to his replacement - like Bruce Wayne is for the new Batman in Bayman Beyond

What's interesting is if you are going to make Indiana Jones be a old man - and at best Harrison can maybe play that he's in his sixties - this means you have to set the movie in the sixties / seventies. I think a big part of the movies is the setting of the thirties/forties making foreign adventure seem more exotic. I don't think a young replacement whose going on adventures in the latter half of the twentieth century is a good choice.

 

[SaharanTea]

(I apologize in advance for how OT this is...but I can't help myself.)

So Big Bang wasn't the first place that theory was postulated. (That Indiana Jones in the end has no effect on events.) It was just sort of popularized from that. But in fact BBT's Amy is completely incorrect in summarizing the movie - but I won't get into that here. However, you can read one rebuttal here:
http://www.indiewire.com/2015/02/indiana-jones-and-the-misunderstood-character-arc-133065/

While I appreciate the link and do agree, I think Indy had more of a direct influence of the end than even this person suggests. Had he not been on the island and survived, the Nazis most likely would have recovered the Ark and learned not to open it the way the first group did. After all, it was their secret submarine base to begin with. They would almost certainly have investigated the situation first. With Indy and Marion there, they could alert the US and recover the Ark.

Sorry to stay off topic.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

What's interesting is if you are going to make Indiana Jones be a old man - and at best Harrison can maybe play that he's in his sixties - this means you have to set the movie in the sixties / seventies. I think a big part of the movies is the setting of the thirties/forties making foreign adventure seem more exotic. I don't think a young replacement whose going on adventures in the latter half of the twentieth century is a good choice.

That's a fair point - and probably why the James Bond method would be best

What could be fun is to have a story that takes place the same time as Indy is around but following someone else - and Indy could even have a cameo or something. Sort of like a parallel storyline

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

Well, Indy make sure Donovan gets it when he and Elsa purposefully pick the wrong grail.

I would love if they did that for the new movie - made much of the story in flashback - but the impression I've gotten is that is not the intention. Didn't Spielberg or Kathleen Kennedy or someone come out and say "Indiana Jones IS Harrison Ford"?

Such a load of... If they did say that. Harrison Ford is Han Solo. Indiana Jones can be anyone. There were already 2 younger Indys. They had no problem recasting solo so doing a 4th Indy should be no problem.

 

[skier_pete]

While I appreciate the link and do agree, I think Indy had more of a direct influence of the end than even this person suggests. Had he not been on the island and survived, the Nazis most likely would have recovered the Ark and learned not to open it the way the first group did. After all, it was their secret submarine base to begin with. They would almost certainly have investigated the situation first. With Indy and Marion there, they could alert the US and recover the Ark.

Sorry to stay off topic.

Well - now that it's a new thread I feel I can say more.

I do agree with what you say as well - the Ark would still be in the Nazi hands. (One of the bigger plot holes is how exactly they got the ark off the island. Are we supposed to assume that every single Nazi on the entire based AND on the submarine was present when the ark was opened? There's a whole portion of the story that's just sort of glossed over here.

But also importantly without Indy, Marion would have been dead. Indy clearly saved her life. Even if you ignore the above affect - that's a very important thing.

 

[skier_pete]

Such a load of... If they did say that. Harrison Ford is Han Solo. Indiana Jones can be anyone. There were already 2 younger Indys. They had no problem recasting solo so doing a 4th Indy should be no problem.

I agree its a load of BS - but that doesn't change that it was said. (I tried to track down the quote, but couldn't find it.)

 

[Phicinfan]

well I love the Indy movies, and am a huge Harrison Ford fan, but agree the role could be recast.

My hopes though would be to play off what happened with the last crusade and have Indy have an adventure with his son, who now also is a professor, and pass the torch as it were. I know in crystal skull it was implied(I don't think they ever confirmed it) that Shia LaBeouf was his son, but that role could be recast for this story.

 

[skier_pete]

I know in crystal skull it was implied(I don't think they ever confirmed it) that Shia LaBeouf was his son.

It was implied with a sledge hammer.

 

[Phicinfan]

It was implied with a sledge hammer.

yeah, I have watched the movie once, one of my least favorite of them all, so I could not remember much, just the last scene where the hat ends up on his head.

 

[Whatsthegoodword]

It was implied with a sledge hammer.

At the time we all thought that Crystal Skull was going to BE the handoff to LaBeouf...but then that didn't happen. Maybe it was just because no-one likes that kid? ...or because the movie wasn't "well received?"

Whatever, they should recast a young Indy and give us the backstory of Dr. Ravenwood mentoring him, and his meeting "just a child" Marian...

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

well I love the Indy movies, and am a huge Harrison Ford fan, but agree the role could be recast.

My hopes though would be to play off what happened with the last crusade and have Indy have an adventure with his son, who now also is a professor, and pass the torch as it were. I know in crystal skull it was implied(I don't think they ever confirmed it) that Shia LaBeouf was his son, but that role could be recast for this story.

Let's not kid ourselves, Indy could easily have dozens of children out there. He doesn't strike me as a protection kinda guy. It is very conceivable that another one might show up.

Maybe the new one could be super annoying Willie's child and in a plot twist he'll be the opposite of his mother.