Inconsiderate people

[Justanopinion]

There was thread on here a few days ago about inconsiderate people. I didn't read the whole thing but a lot of peple were saying that it's become an all about me world. Everything is me, me, me.
Well, I realized this morning that it is also always someone else's fault.
I have two people in my life that are like that and thought it just them. I actually saw it in a few people this morning.
Admittedly, I was running late this morning. I knew when I left the house that it was possible that DD would be late for school. So when I pulled up and the teachers were no longer outside getting kids out of the car, I knew she was tardy. I pulled around to the front, got out, and walked her in. But not before watching 4, yes 4, parents drop their kids off in the drop off lane without a teacher just to find out that they were locked out. Now, there is a fence along that sidewalk, so they couldn't really go anywhere. Two of these parents had pulled out onto the road and were blocking traffic as they hollered over to their kids, stay there...I'll pull around.
So anyway, I get my DD inside, announcements are on, we have to stand there. As soon as announcements are over they tell the kids to go ahead and go to class. These drop off parents come in as we are coming out complaining that the teachers went in early this morning and that they had to drive back around to get their kids. WHAT? You mean you dropped off a child without a teacher and are now blaming the teacher? The way I see it, it doesn't matter if the teacher went in early or not, don't drop off your child if the teachers aren't outside. Take responsibility for your actions. Clocks can differ, maybe you were late. Look at the school clock and set your watches. But to automatically blame the teacher, hello.
So that's my rant for the day. Have a nice day!

 

[The Mystery Machine]

Sounds like your school needs a safer policy. When the doors lock on my dd's school they press a button and are buzzed in.

 

[Jennasis]

I'm dealing with that now. I have a few clinets who habitually pay me late. There is ALWAYS a song and dance about why they didn't pay on time and it's always someone else's fault. Why couldn't they return my numerous phone messages? Don't you know these people "lose" their cell phones more than anyone else on the planet. ANYTIME I see them, they have that phone surgically implanted in their ear, but when I call 5 times a day asking where my money is, I get the "oh I lost my phone/dropped it in the toilet/left it in my car all day/battery died in my phone excuses.

I am sick of it. SICK, I tell you!

I'm tired of the blame, lies, and stories. Man up world. MAN UP.

 

[Justanopinion]

Sounds like your school needs a safer policy. When the doors lock on my dd's school they press a button and are buzzed in.

No, you sound just like them. When the teachers aren't outside any longer you need to use the front door my the office. The doors are locked so that visitors and strangers cannot get in.
Maybe I didn't make it clear though. The drop off door is not the front door.

 

[Mickeyistheman]

OP,

I do understand and no one is perfect and yes sometimes we all make mistakes.

However I do agree that people should take responsibility for their own actions and have some manners.

I went to our local IGA (food store) last night and just got some chicken cutlets (there were on sale woo hoo!!) some veggies and cold cuts for lunch this week.

I was waiting on line behind someone (for cold cuts) they finished I moved up and this woman came out of nowhere and stepped in front of me. Now maybe she didn't see me....I find that hard to believe I am not so little

She turned around and saw me and I said that I was next and smiled. She turned back to the person behind the counter and gave her order!!

The person behind the counter looked at me and I said don't worry about it.

She felt bad when it was finally my turn and I told her that it was alright, not to worry about it. Now should she have said I was next - yes she should have, but she didn't oh well it wasn't a big deal.

People don't have manners, they are so jaded they just don't care anymore and that is sad.

However it didn't ruin my night and dinner was fabulous! Even though its cold and rainy I am going to have a great day and I hope you do too!

 

[The Mystery Machine]

No, you sound just like them. When the teachers aren't outside any longer you need to use the front door my the office. The doors are locked so that visitors and strangers cannot get in.
Maybe I didn't make it clear though. The drop off door is not the front door.

Oh, our drop off is the front doors. Again your drop off does not sound safe.

 

[Mickey'snewestfan]

Oh, our drop off is the front doors. Again your drop off does not sound safe.

I guess I don't understand why this is unsafe. Maybe it depends on the age of the kids? I used to work at a preschool with a similar situation, the preschool had 2 entrances --one by the office, and the other at the other end of the building. Parents dropped off at whichever entrance was closer to their child's room, and teachers came and got kids out of the cars and walked them to their classrooms. 15 minutes or so after school started the teachers would all go into their classrooms and the door away from the office was closed. After that, if you wanted to drop off you either needed to drive around the building or walk across the playground and use the door by the office. You were also responsible for supervising your kid until they were at the door to the classroom.

It's not like you could "accidentally" drop off your kid after the teachers went in. The teachers came to your car and opened the door, unbuckled the carseat and took your child by the hand. If no teacher did this it was pretty obvious.

Why would this be unsafe?

 

[The Mystery Machine]

But not before watching 4, yes 4, parents drop their kids off in the drop off lane without a teacher just to find out that they were locked out. Now, there is a fence along that sidewalk, so they couldn't really go anywhere. Two of these parents had pulled out onto the road and were blocking traffic as they hollered over to their kids, stay there...I'll pull around.

Does this sound safe to you?

 

[Justanopinion]

I think you're missing the point. The whole thing is these kids should not have been dropped off in the first place. If the teachers weren't outside then a parent needs to pull around to the front of the building and walk the child in.
What's not safe is dropping your child off with no one around. What's not safe is leaving a side door unlocked so that just any random person can walk in. What's not safe is buzzing kids in through a door when it potentially may not be a child needing in. How does the person using the buzzer know it is a child? That's why you have to go through the front doors and through the office...for safety.
But beyond all that, the bigger point is that these parents knew better. They chose to drop off their kids when no teacher was there and then fuss because their kids are locked out. No. It is the parent's responsibilty to make sure the kids get in the building. It is the parent's responsibilty to make sure they are there are time while teachers are still present. Tardy is tardy and 8:05 is tardy.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

My kids have been to several schools now and all will buzz in kids.
My 6th grader has been tardy a number of times now this year. I am not walking her into the school.
Our school is set up so it is not necessary.

So that is where you are losing me. A kid cannot be buzzed in? So if a parent drops off a kid, they cannot get buzzed in? That is what I don't understand. That doesn't seem safe to me.

Your parents that are dropping kids off in the back of school after the bell are stupid. Not arguing that.

Now if it is really late of course a parent should walk their kid in.

 

[Justanopinion]

Maybe age difference is where we are different.
I'm have a child in Pre-K, this school is Pre - K and K only.

Our elementary school again, if you miss drop off you must walk in through the front door.
I don't know how they do it at our Intermediate school.
Jr. High...well, not happy about that, all the doors are unlocked. But since I don't have a child there and won't for awhile, I won't worry about that just yet.
I do know that at our Jr. High and High school, there are 2-3 doors at each school that are unlocked and are not front doors. For instance, a Jr. High has a side door for band and Ag students to use and a back door for PE students to use.
Our high school has a 2 side doors for PE and dance students.
But like I said, I don't have kids there just yet, not going to worry about it just yet.

But I'm talking Pre - K and K. If a parent misses the teachers and drop off, they should be walked in by a parent. I only have to walk as far as the office, not very far at all. But to assume that a side door would remain unlocked after teachers went inside the building is wrong. Anyone could walk in that side door. I'm glad it's locked. I think the system is set up correctly. The door is unlocked while teachers are outside and locked if teachers aren't, plain and simple.

 

[Disney Doll]

My kids have been to several schools now and all will buzz in kids.
My 6th grader has been tardy a number of times now this year. I am not walking her into the school.
Our school is set up so it is not necessary.

So that is where you are losing me. A kid cannot be buzzed in? So if a parent drops off a kid, they cannot get buzzed in? That is what I don't understand. That doesn't seem safe to me.

Your parents that are dropping kids off in the back of school after the bell are stupid. Not arguing that.

Now if it is really late of course a parent should walk their kid in.

What I am getting from the OP is that it is a known school rule that kids are not supposed to be dropped off at that particular door if there is a not a teacher present at the door when the kid is dropped off.

So, these parents who were late dropped their kid off at the door where there was no teacher present, which is against the known school rule. This necessitated their children having to stand there while the parent pulled around again to pick their child up, which yes, is unsafe, but the parent put the child into the unsafe situation. The school has a policy....don't drop your kid off at this door if there is no teacher standing there.

To the OP: every day, the people in the world get more "me, me, me" focused. I find it scary actually.

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

While it's not the most endearing quality for people to make excuses when they are, in fact, the ones at fault, I'm not getting how, in this case, the OP was affected at all. I just think that there is so much for each of us to worry about in this life that we shouldn't waste our time judging other people for very minor offenses.

 

[C.Ann]

While it's not the most endearing quality for people to make excuses when they are, in fact, the ones at fault, I'm not getting how, in this case, the OP was affected at all. I just think that there is so much for each of us to worry about in this life that we shouldn't waste our time judging other people for very minor offenses.

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I just have to ask.. Often when people start a thread here - just to vent - or to ask an innocent question - you always seem to pop in with a remark to minimize the topic or berate the OP for having any kind of "feelings" at all - about any subject..

Curiosity has gotten the best of me.. Just what do you find appropriate to discuss/vent/point out here on the DIS? Not attempting to pick a fight - I'm just very curious about what you feel is important and worthy..

 

[declansdad]

The op is saying, imo, that these parents knew the rule and dropped off the kids anyway. They then blamed the teachers for not being there to get their child.

The parents are trying to put the blame where it doesn't belong and avoiding personal responsibility. It is not a school safety issue, the school did what it was suppose to do. If there is a safety issue, it is being created by the parents who are avoiding taking responsibilty for there own actions.

 

[C.Ann]

The op is saying, imo, that these parents knew the rule and dropped off the kids anyway. They then blamed the teachers for not being there to get their child.

The parents are trying to put the blame where it doesn't belong and avoiding personal responsibility. It is not a school safety issue, the school did what it was suppose to do. If there is a safety issue, it is being created by the parents who are avoiding taking responsibilty for there own actions.

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That's pretty much the way I read it.. And I think the "safety" of any child is worthy of discussion..

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

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I just have to ask.. Often when people start a thread here - just to vent - or to ask an innocent question - you always seem to pop in with a remark to minimize the topic or berate the OP for having any kind of "feelings" at all - about any subject..

Curiosity has gotten the best of me.. Just what do you find appropriate to discuss/vent/point out here on the DIS? Not attempting to pick a fight - I'm just very curious about what you feel is important and worthy..

I truly do apologize if the OP feels berated. That was never my intention.

I actually do feel, C. Ann, like your above post was intended to pick a fight and just because you say it wasn't doesn't change that. It's obviously intentionally personal and negative.

I'll bite. I think it's a waste of time to worry or vent or complain about things that bother you when you have no intention of doing anything about them. I also find it tiresome to read threads with parents attacking other parents for doing things that they would never do. This is especially true when the actions of the other parent were pretty insignificant and affected the poster not at all.

However, I don't think I've tried to stop anyone from venting or posting about . . . well . . . anything. Freedom of speech and all that. But if you post on a public board, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that both people that agree and disagree with you will respond. In this case, I disagree with the OP's rant.

 

[missj1975]

While it's not the most endearing quality for people to make excuses when they are, in fact, the ones at fault, I'm not getting how, in this case, the OP was affected at all. I just think that there is so much for each of us to worry about in this life that we shouldn't waste our time judging other people for very minor offenses.

No you are right. We should just waste time by browsing the disboard and posting a snide comment on every thread.

Lighten up lady. Rants are fun and good to let the steam off. Let the lady rant without making her seem like she is wasting space on the community board.

To the OP, I get your point. Carry on.

 

[C.Ann]

No you are right. We should just waste time by browsing the disboard and posting a snide comment on every thread.

Lighten up lady. Rants are fun and good to let the steam off. Let the lady rant without making her seem like she is wasting space on the community board.

To the OP, I get your point. Carry on.

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I think this is what they call "shooting straight from the hip".. LOL

However, I agree.. A rant or a vent doesn't always have to be turned into a lecture of "Oh but there are so many other important issues to be concerned with.." Certainly there are - but is that the only thing we're allowed to discuss? I think not.. As much as I hate the word, it's about "validation".. People should be allowed to vent a little here and there - minus the lectures..

 

[C.Ann]

I actually do feel, C. Ann, like your above post was intended to pick a fight and just because you say it wasn't doesn't change that. It's obviously intentionally personal and negative..

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I respectfully disagree.. If my intent was to "pick a fight", I would do it openly - not hide behind a statement that clearly informed you that it was not my intent to do so.. That's not my style - and quite frankly, I don't think I have ever "picked a fight" on a message board..

I am really trying to understand you - and where your mind-set is.. I have to admit that your posts are the only ones I can read and know exactly who is posting without looking at the name first.. It's not your style of writing that I recognize.. It's what you say - and how you say it.. I'm sorry if my trying to understand you is perceived by you as "picking a fight"..