I'm back! A great six days in DLP and realisation that it does stack up to WDW!

TheGayGeek

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My boyfriend and I got back late on Friday evening. Would have posted earlier, but we were in London yesterday for Pixar In Concert at the Royal Albert Hall. - a great way to complete our week of Disney.

Highs:

Disney's Sequoia Lodge - I've been to DLP before (in 2003 if I remember correctly, and to WDW countless times, but this was the first time I'd stopped in a resort hotel - and whoa - I was really blown away. I will only stop on property from now on and would be sure to choose this hotel for winter stays. A great room in the Sierra Lodge with a nice wooded view. Really liked the subtle Disney theming.

Sequoia Lodge Redwood Lounge - Really lovely place to wind down in an afternoon especially when the log fire was lit. Impressive and smelt amazing. The food and drink was also reasonable and really great.

Sequoia Lodge Pool and Steam Room Facilities - Bf and I enjoyed visiting the park in the morning and relaxing in the pool or steam in the afternoon. It was really good for relaxing and the steam cleared up a nagging cold my bf had.

Disneyland Hotel - okay, so I didn't stay here, but man - I am sold! Along with the Newport Bay for summer visits, I could imagine me stopping here without a doubt. It was just so beautiful and wow - I kept having to go into the reception to smell it! I did get the hotel scent spray by the end of my trip and am currently enjoying it in my home!

Cafe Fantasia- A lovely place - some great cocktails were consumed here and friendly staff who remembered us from visit to visit. Such a shame that we didn't get to hear the pianist as the evening we visited for this (s)/he didn't seem to be there.

Cast Members - I did think that we'd meet some rude cast members, but I was totally wrong. Really friendly and always greeted or said goodbye to us when entering/leaving hotel or park.

Crowds - Crowd levels were good. I expected it to be busier in half term. However, we really didn't have very long weights at all apart from on Toy Story area of the studios which is to be expected.

Weather - Apart from Thursday, everything was great in terms of weather. Warmer than expected.

Parades - Thumbs up!

Disney Dreams - Brilliant! I think we watched it three out of five nights. It is like a better combination of Fantasmic, World of Colour and Wishes but far exceeds all of them.

The Parks - I seriously think they are the prettiest parks ever! Beautiful. I had such fun taking photographs. Looked great in the day and in the night. It was a really lovely experience riding Thunder Mountain in the dark because of how lovely Frontierland looked all lit up.

Main Street, USA - Okay - I've already said how pretty the parks are, but I feel that I need to single out how stupendously beautiful this version of Main Street is. I was always spoiled for choice - do I walk down the street proper? Or take one of the gorgeous arcades with those beautiful gas lamps? Incredible!

The Rides - It was fun riding Disney rides which were genuinely white knuckle. Space Mountain, whilst a bit painful, was so good when compared to the other Space Mountains I've riden at WDW and Anaheim. Tower of Terror feels better too with you feeling like you're coming out of the seat. Crush's Coaster is really brilliant too. Pirates feels much more atmospheric and I've already mentioned how much fun I had on Big Thunder Mountain.

Walt's - Fantastic theming and glorious food. Would recommend to all.

Silver Spur Steakhouse - We ate here on our last afternoon and it was another brilliant eatery which looked brilliant. It also had the best service of the entire trip and it was great to see a new member of staff being trained and be a part of this training.

Sunday Brunch - really lovely pirate theme and some great food. Well worth the money. As a couple without children we often found that we were seated in the worst possible place in a restaurant but not in the Innovations Sunday Brunch (which actually took place in California Grill when we were there.) The Cast Members got us a table with a castle view. Great stuff!

Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show - Really fun evening and especially special when teamed up with cocktails before in Billy Bob's Saloon.

The OKs:

The Blue Lagoon - First off the theming is incredible and it does feel special to sit inside of a ride! It was lovely and warm so we could just wear shirts but the food was only okay, and the service was absolutely terrible. We were placed in a terrible place as thats where tables to seat two were placed. I spotted a better table and was grudgingly moved after I stated I would be happy to wait to sit by the water's edge. We received wrong items of food and wine I ordered for my fish course didn't turn up until the end of the meal (I, of course, sent it back). I know this sounds very first world problems - but I expect a certain level of service from a table service restaurant and compared to Walt's and Silver Spur it was lacking.

All-You-Can-Eat - The food was good - but I could have done with less of these and more table service options as there are in WDW.

Breakfast - Whilst it wasn't bad, I thought it was really poorly organised. I hate the idea of having to get a little card for breakfast and whilst the food was good (if a bit limited) it was what I expected. What I didn't expect is that if I didn't get there before 8am it was mental. Luckily, both my boyfriend and I early risers. Breakfast was also the key area where it felt like we were treated less well for being a two person party without children. We were placed in very odd places, sometimes a cast member would just break apart of table of four and sit two separate couples some six inches apart on them which was a bit odd.

The Bad

Check In - I've already paid in full and you already have my details including address and email address, so why am I filling in this slip again? It's also not the best first impression in walking into a beautiful hotel to have sights of queuing guests and luggage everywhere. Could be better.

Segafredo - Truely vile coffee. I think it's mental that you don't get complimentary tea and coffee in the room, but it was really bad that I had to pay for a tea box with this terrible coffee in it. At breakfast and all over the parks too - horrible stuff. Thank god for the Starbucks in the Village (and I'm usually not a fan of them either!

Parenting - I've been very impressed with how friendly this community is and hopefully you'll all allow me to say my piece here without thinking me a bit of a tool, but I'm beginning to feel we're heading toward an endemic of bratty children caused by poor parenting.

There were numerous occasions where other guests treated my partner and I like we were second class visitors (nothing to do with the gay thing - they were completely cool with that) but we noticed a trend of people expecting we should let them and their children experience things on a different level to us simply as we were without children.

I've already had friends and family state that, well, what do you expect, it's for kids isn't it, and my answer to this is that, no, it's for families, and my family just doesn't happen to have children yet.

However, when it does, my children will be able to queue, sit and eat a meal, and watch a show without ruining the experience for fellow guests. They will do this, or they won't be allowed to visit these nice places. This article from the Guardian this week really sums up my thinking - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journali...useums-its-the-parents-who-need-training.html

Apologies if I've annoyed anyone with that last bit - it was just something we noticed at the Pixar In Concert thing too. We're nice people who enjoy experiencing good things, we just think it's a shame when everyone can't act in a polite way for the betterment of a shared experience.

I'll post some positive or further replies/answers to any questions, as well as some pictures perhaps, but you're able to view some highlight photos from my website - http://TheGayGeek.co.uk

Hopefully I haven't come across too snooty and you'll still like me!
 
welcome back!!! You did have a wonderful trip. And it seems your experience with SL pool was totally different form ours :thumbsup2

Will you do a TR and share some photos?
 
Welcome back, sounds like you had a great trip. I agree with you about the Disneyland Hotel smell, I have it in my house too!!

We went to the Pixar concert yesterday too and thought it was really good. DH and I went with 2 of our friends and didn't notice people treating us differently as we didn't have any children with us. We shared our box with 2 families who both had 2 children each (between 4 and 8 at a guess) and they were all really nice. One of the families was French and their children spoke a few words of English to us as well.
 

Welcome back, sounds like you had a great trip. I agree with you about the Disneyland Hotel smell, I have it in my house too!!

We went to the Pixar concert yesterday too
and thought it was really good. DH and I went with 2 of our friends and didn't notice people treating us differently as we didn't have any children with us. We shared our box with 2 families who both had 2 children each (between 4 and 8 at a guess) and they were all really nice. One of the families was French and their children spoke a few words of English to us as well.

what is the Pixar concert?
 
An orchestral concert of Pixar music by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra at the Royal Albert Hall. I believe it is on tour at the moment. Yesterday was the UK premiere.
 
An orchestral concert of Pixar music by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra at the Royal Albert Hall. I believe it is on tour at the moment. Yesterday was the UK premiere.

that sounds wonderful :goodvibes.
 
Welcome back sounds like a lovely trip.
I would never assume my children should have a better experience than someone else just *** they are children and hope others feel the same as next trip I travel with dd who at 15 towers over me and I would hate to think we would be placed at an out of the way table just *** we look like 2 adults!!!! We are all paying the same and should respect other people's right to enjoy their holiday be they child or adult!

Bad behaviour is just wrong be it an adult or child, hate to see pushing and shoving, q jumping and smoking into other people's space!

Looking forward to reading your trip report and seeing more photos x
 
Sounds like most was good, and we're staying in SL too so excited to hear it was nice.
Also really glad to hear your experience as we're returning with our bubba and bit concerned how some could respond to our 2 mummy family.
I'm still dreaming of the pink hotel... One day we will stay!!
 
Sounds like most was good, and we're staying in SL too so excited to hear it was nice.
Also really glad to hear your experience as we're returning with our bubba and bit concerned how some could respond to our 2 mummy family.
I'm still dreaming of the pink hotel... One day we will stay!!

You'll have no problems, I'm sure. David and I didn't obviously do inappropriate displays of affection, but we felt very comfortable holding hands and walking arm in arm in public.
 
We got engaged in DLP in 08, had no issues, however "bringing children into it...." Apparently changes things!! To be fair, we're taking bub to meet "her" mice so I'm gonna smile and enjoy myself whatever!!

But we also found same issue in 08 with "just" adults at the scrum for characters and shows etc so glad this time we have a midget and will be taking turns and waiting like every other!!
 
Welcome back! Glad you had a wonderful time.

Very glad you felt comfortable as a couple in DLP; I would have expected nothing less - I just feel so disappointed with society as a whole that this even needs to be raised - iykwim? It shouldn't be an issue - ever; anywhere!

As a teacher and a parent - I am 100% behind you on the parenting thing. I notice it more in "middle-class" circles where children seem to just be allowed to do as they wish and have this sense of entitlement. During the meet & greet with The Queen of Hearts on Monday there was a bit of a scrum but I refused to push Rosebug in; even when people were pushing infront of her and taking her place. I did make her stand her ground; but there was us and another English couple who just refused to allow our children to push and shove to get their way; even if it meant they missed a photo. Teaching your child manners should be a parents main concern, not a meet with a character or getting on a ride.

And the only time I get narky at adults in DLP is when they push infront of or block the view of children; when they could quite easily stand behind them and get a perfect view. we had a huge man stand infront of Rosebug and a group of children during the parade so they couldn't see a thing. He could easily have stood behind them and have the same view. Again though - this is down to manners.
 
Thank you for your super trip report. I was most interested as DH and I intend to stay at the SL for the first time in December. Glad you mostly enjoyed it.

But what has caused me to comment on this thread is the parenting issue...... simply because we returned from our trip yesterday and I am sad to say that what stood out so much was the sheer terrible manners of other children, parents seemingly unwilling to ever offer guidance or assertiveness in the actual act of 'parenting' and several displays of absolute ignorance.

My two are 15 and 12 now and because we were pretty hot on manners and doing as you are told when they were young, they are polite, respectful of others and it makes taking them anywhere really easy. I lost count of how many times they looked to us and said "If I/we had ever done that, you would have hit the roof!"

I am of course biased and think my kids are fab - everyone does. But we do get complimented on them in many social situations. Parents - please bear in mind that nobody else thinks your kids are as cute or wonderful as you do! We do not find their running into us at full tilt whilst trying to get to a table with a tray full of food amusing. I did not find myself endeared to the 12+ year old who continually prodded and pushed my 76 year old MIL until she nearly fell over whilst watching Dreams (until I turned and told hm to pack it in after 10 minutes). And there were many more such encounters.

The sad thing is that 99% of people reading this will truly believe this is not about THEIR kids and for some that will not be correct.
 
Rosebug I totally agree with all you've said and am glad all different kinds of families can enjoy being in the Disney bubble. In all the many trips we've had to DLP the only thing that lets it down is rude inconsiderate people and Disney can't be blamed for that. I never let people get me down kalma will get them in the end. :)
 
Thank you for your super trip report. I was most interested as DH and I intend to stay at the SL for the first time in December. Glad you mostly enjoyed it.

But what has caused me to comment on this thread is the parenting issue...... simply because we returned from our trip yesterday and I am sad to say that what stood out so much was the sheer terrible manners of other children, parents seemingly unwilling to ever offer guidance or assertiveness in the actual act of 'parenting' and several displays of absolute ignorance.

My two are 15 and 12 now and because we were pretty hot on manners and doing as you are told when they were young, they are polite, respectful of others and it makes taking them anywhere really easy. I lost count of how many times they looked to us and said "If I/we had ever done that, you would have hit the roof!"

I am of course biased and think my kids are fab - everyone does. But we do get complimented on them in many social situations. Parents - please bear in mind that nobody else thinks your kids are as cute or wonderful as you do! We do not find their running into us at full tilt whilst trying to get to a table with a tray full of food amusing. I did not find myself endeared to the 12+ year old who continually prodded and pushed my 76 year old MIL until she nearly fell over whilst watching Dreams (until I turned and told hm to pack it in after 10 minutes). And there were many more such encounters.

The sad thing is that 99% of people reading this will truly believe this is not about THEIR kids and for some that will not be correct.

I am with you on all of this. But I think reading this on here the vast majority of people will have similar thoughts on this behaviour and parenting. I know my child would never be allowed to behave in this way. She has her moments, no child and no parent is perfect, but she is spoken to quite firmly if she does something that is silly or bad mannered. As a teacher I see how "perfect" children behave away from their parents! ;)
 
I have found the opposite, adults pushing in front of my children a lot on visits. This is very upsetting for the children and I often allow children to stand in front of me as I am taller than them so can see over the top of them.

I am not offended by your comments but am sat here thinking wait until you do have children before you can comment on how your children will behave. I said the same before I had children I would do this, they wouldn't do that etc. My children aren't naughty and do not have bad table manners but in Disney the excitement overcomes them. Parenting isn't as easy as you think.
 
Welcome back :wave:
Sounds like you had a truly fantastic trip.
I hope my kids are well mannered and kind and we do spend time correcting them and teaching them what I hope are good values and humility - for me the worst possible outcome would be for them to be snot nosed brats. Its as hard as you make it - manners cost nothing!
 
Welcome back! :wave2:

I'm so glad you both had an amazing time - and it has really pleased me to read that you found DLP does stack up to WDW! It is such a gorgeous park and second-to-none in my eyes! I love hearing how much others love it too, especially when they haven't been in so long! :cloud9:

When my boyfriend and I visit DLP, we do see rude guests (as is life, anywhere) but have always been lucky enough to find ourselves immersed in a happy little bubble full of politeness.

We are both the type that if a child is standing behind us during a parade/show - we will ask their parent if they would like their child to stand in front of us. It doesn't hinder our view or experience at all. The same at character meets; it always upset us when we would see children struggling to meet their favourite character so we would find ourselves getting the characters' attention and getting the child ahead of us. We usually find that karma does come around and the character would, in turn, go out of their way to pose for a quick photo with us.

It's a shame you had a different experience with familes, but we have never been made to feel like second class citizens whilst staying in the resort - not for being a gay couple, nor for being adults without children. One lovely French family pretty much "adopted" us whilst we were there for my birthday :rotfl: - I had a birthday cake brought out in Inventions and there was way too much cake for the two of us, so I gave half to the family next to us - we kept seeing them during our trip and their lovely daughter kept running over to say "bonjour" and wish me a "bon anniversaire" :cloud9:
 
My partner and I haven't completely decided yet whether or not we will extend our family with children. We are very happy with our way of life as it is currently, and understand we could give a great life and lots of love and affection to a child. The complicated process of proving that we'd make good parents is off-putting, I'll admit also.

Also - I'd suggest that its not Disney getting the better of children. It's that some parents have passed on the responsibility of parenting to their children's teachers. My boyfriend is a deputy head teacher of a high school and a lot of the staff's time is spent following government mandate to make up for poor parenting.

Anyway, I do not want to offend, and we're at risk of getting off topic: So, that Disneyland Hotel - smells great, huh? :thumbsup2

Funny story about the Disneyland Hotel Room Spray we brought. I was browsing somewhere else in the store whilst my partner was paying for it at the till, and I overheard the Cast Member recommending that David advise his wife to spray the scent on the curtains as it dissipates too readily in the air. :rotfl2:
 
Don't worry about offending GOOD parents as we know it's not us :)

I holiday with, and without my children. This holiday (we got back Friday morning after 9 wonderful days!) and the kids went off with friends and themselves, leaving us some time together. But sometimes it was really bad being a couple in Disney!
One instance was Eyeore. He came out, and was signing (only one this whole trip we saw doing it) and we got very excited! But of course, we didn't get it. For one thing, an adult couple pushed past, complete with cigarettes in their hand to have a photo. Eyeore said no and moved (good on him!) but this meant, even though we were first in line, we now became back with a swarm of kids in front and we found we could get no where near him :( I was quite upset at this, my Pirate was angry at the smoking couple and I didn't get my sort after autograph. So yes, we felt annoyed with the push parents who seem to think they can shove there kids between your legs (i kid you not!) and that they are the only one who are entitled to be there :(
 

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