If you really want something and your spouse doesn't

Tiggeroo

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I am 39yo and have three children, two who are twins. I had my kids very young, and since two were twins they mature together. The oldest is in college and the twins are juniors in hs. I would very much like to have another child. I have felt this way for the past 5 yrs. It is going to be very hard in another year when they are all gone. Also, since I was so young when I had my kids I just feel like I missed so much. Dh will agree to another one then change his mind, then again....
Obviously for such a life altering decision we must both agree, but what would you do? By him not agreeing it means we do things his way. Time is running out on this decision and soon it will be too late to do this.
There are other major decisions in life spouses may disagree on. Such as home or car purchases, moving/career decisions, parenting issues, etc.. Have you ever disagreed with your spouse on something major that was important to you. How did you handle it?
 
I am not an expert, but I would think (in my case) that BOTH would have to agree. It's funny this thread came up since just last night I was on the phone with a good friend from CA & she was telling me how badly she wants another child (& she's 43). They currently have a 3 y/o DS & she wants her DS to have a sibling. Her DH is in NO WAY even considering this since he didn't even want the DS they currently have. :mad:

So, here she is seeking advice from me...she is trying to get pregnant without him knowing about it (not taking pills, etc..) & she's on fertility treatments!!! She's so desperate, she's even looking into a sperm bank & IVF if nothing works. :eek:

Let me say, I want no part of her decision. I could not/would not deceive my DH in that way. Of course, I'm not married to a jerk like my DF is! :o

Good luck on your decision but let me tell you from experience, it's not so easy running after a toddler once you're in your 40's. I had my 2nd DS (surprise) at age 42. He's now 2 y/o & I'm 44 & it's no picnic, nor do I have the patience I had with my first DS (who is now 8.) Wouldn't trade him for the world but it's just not as easy. Not to mention, since your kids are grown, it's hard to get back into the swing of not being able to do something on a whim anymore. Babies take planning to just go to the market! Life just changes...

Again, my sincere wishes for you to make the best choice for you & your family!
 
Wow, I would think it wouldn't be possible to enter into infertility treatment without your spouse. There would be tests he would need done, plus it just seems unethical for a dr. to treat you without talking to both partners. If she succeeds it would probably be the end of the marriage. I won't do this without spouses support, but I know him and suspect that when it is nearly too late he will start saying how badly he wants to do this. He has no conception of how difficult it is to get preg. at 40 +
 
My parents were high school sweethearts and married when my mom was 19 and my dad 22. It was during WW II and my dad enlisted in the Army and was sent overseas to Europe. My mom found out that she was pregnant 2 weeks after he had left. He was in a unit that moved around a lot and was on the France/Germany border and didn't receive the telegram that my brother had been born until 2 weeks after his birth. He was 18 months old before my dad came home. Then a month later my mom found out she was pregnant with their 2nd son. They stayed very busy raising their 2 boys and when my oldest brother was 19 and my other brother was about to graduate from high school my mom got the empty nest syndrome and she and my dad decided to have another baby. This was a time when it wasn't very common for a 39 year old woman to have a baby and all of their friends told them that they were completely nuts, that this was when they should appreciate having their kids grown and out of the house, etc. Plus some of my mom's friends were very skeptical that a 39 year old woman could conceive again. Ha ha. I was born when my mom was 3 months shy of 40. I grew up hearing the story told time after time about how the day my mom and dad brought me home from the hospital that as they were leaving the parking lot my dad became so overcome with emotion that he had to pull the car over and he and my mom sat there and cried. Growing up when people would find out that my brothers are 18 and 20 years older than me I would see snickers and looks like I MUST have been an "accident". I knew otherwise and even my brothers told me that even though they thought at the time it was crazy for my parents to have a baby at that age that I was no "accident". I am now 38 years old. My dad passed away 8 years ago but my mom is 78 and still kicking. We are extremely close. We've talked about what it was like for her to have another baby at 39 and she has always said that it was the best decision that they could have made. I kept them young. She says that although they LOVED my brothers that they were so young that they didn't appreciate the little things as much as when they had me. She said she had much more patience and time to give when I was little than she had when my brothers were. From my perspective, even though there were times I felt more like an only child since my brothers are so much older, I had an incredible relationship with my parents. The three of us spent lots of time together, vacations, just going to get ice cream or whatever was even special. I guess what I'm trying to say is that they never regretted having a baby later in life and I don't regret that my parents were older than my friends. I too, get that "baby fever" (as I call it) a lot. I absolutely loved every minute of having my 3 babies (and still do of course!). Mine aren't as old as yours though. They're 13, 9, and 7 and as much as I would like to have another we are so stretched with time (not to mention how expensive they get as they grow and I want to be able to send them all to college) that it probably just isn't feasible for us. Our kids are involved in a lot of sports, activities, danceline, etc. that we're already stressed having to be 3 places at one time some days. But, if I had the time, and finances I would have another. It IS important that whatever you decide to do that you and your husband agree since if you don't it could cause problems later. BUT, if you sit down and explain to him how important it is to you he may rethink things and I'm sure that he would adore your child once he gets over the "fright" part and holds his son or daughter the first time. I don't mean to sound like Dear Abby but one thing I have come to find in 16 years of marriage is that when most of us women think of having a baby we look at it differently than men. We think of the miracle, the oh so cute teeny weenie baby clothes, who they will look like, etc. and men tend to look on the practical side, like "Will I be too old to play baseball with him when he's 14? Am I really up to all those open house nights and Christmas parties at school when they get into kindergarten? Car insurance will be phenomenal by the time he's 16. And college...can you imagine the tuition in 19 years?????" These are just examples but that's how (IMO) men think. Talk to him about what his fears about having another baby are, talk them through and he may change his mind. Whatever you decide, I wish you the best! I am so sorry this was so long!!!!!
 

I would love another child, too. But my dh does not. So, we are not having one.

Decisions about children must be made by both partners. There are no "winners" and "loosers".
 
Hi,

I am now 43 and my girls are 11,9,7. From age 37-40, I obsessed about another child and my dh kept saying he'd think about it until he finally said NO! when I was 39. I think I finally accepted it when I was 41 and it was too late (for me, not to insult anyone who has had a child later). It took me a while to get over, but I did. I felt the same as you, that my dh was "winning" by saying no.

I hope you both can come to an agreement and that you get your baby!!

Vivienne
 
Originally posted by Tiggeroo
By him not agreeing it means we do things his way.

I think this sentence is very disturbing and telling. It seems as if this is a contest rather than two people deciding on a very major decision.

Kimberle said it when she said there are "no winners and losers". But marriage is a give and take and it looks as if someone is going to have to give and that's the decision you both need to be able to agree with.

Good luck.
 
I'm 31 and so is DH. Our only child is 12 years old and I would love another one. John says NO...he says we didn't get the opportunity to travel and do things when we were first married so he wants to make up for that now and as J.C. gets older. I still don't think the argument is over because I'm not ready to give in quite yet. I would love anothe baby and thats the way it is.....BUT I left out the fact that John had a vasectomy when we were 24 or 25 because birth control was not working for us and I had 3 miscarriages in 3 years.....even if he does give in and agree in the next year or so I still won't go ahead without a lot of advice from our Doctor.

Good luck, I definatly think it needs to be a decision made by both parents.
 
I think this sentence is very disturbing and telling.
Even as I was typing it I realized how it sounded. I really don't mean it the way it sounds typed. We don't fight about this. I don't go around saying I want a baby now!
I'm trying to describe the type of decision where both parties must be in agreement for it to happen. Yet they both disagree and their disagreements are polar in nature, completely opposite. Therefore, since they must agree, by it's very nature the one whose feelings are negative makes the decision for both of them. He doesn't feel very strongly against it. He just keeps thinking we'll do it later. He is the one who started this. I was hesitant but changed my mind.
If we don't have another child I'l be disapointed but get over it. People get over things that disapoint them all the time. Some much worst. I just wish he'd be a bit more understanding about this.
 
That's a tough one. But I agree...he can't be forced into it. And deceiving isn't the way to go. I have a friend who had her first three young. Now married to someone else and has 2 little ones with him. He'd like a 3rd! She said...the baby factory is closed down. :) She's now 41. Her first 3 are college ages, and the little ones are 2 and 3. Then I have another friend who just wasn't conceiving. Test after test, etc. was done. I'm not sure if they finally found out the problem or not. But she wanted kids so much that she divorced her husband and found someone else. They now have 2 boys. Interesting the lengths people with go to for kids.
 


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