I was told I couldn't take a picture of Donald Duck!

Proving once again that we all have our own opinions of what is considered rude and inconsiderate. :sad2: How silly of me to think that I could share a relating story without having my position as both a wife and mother attacked.:rolleyes: What was I thinking...
Thank goodness I am not in the presence of perfection so that I can learn how to properly handle a situation involving MY family in the future. Next time I'll include every detail down to the blood type of the parties involved so that you will have all of the details before you pass judgment as opposed to just the portion that relevant to the discussion in process.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go punish myself for stealing my family's memories. (what a joke)

Oh, come on! Don't get all faux-wounded. You're the one who posted it to begin with... If you can dish it out, you should be prepared to take it.
 
Proving once again that we all have our own opinions of what is considered rude and inconsiderate. :sad2: How silly of me to think that I could share a relating story without having my position as both a wife and mother attacked.:rolleyes: What was I thinking...
Thank goodness I am not in the presence of perfection so that I can learn how to properly handle a situation involving MY family in the future. Next time I'll include every detail down to the blood type of the parties involved so that you will have all of the details before you pass judgment as opposed to just the portion that relevant to the discussion in process.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go punish myself for stealing my family's memories. (what a joke)

I'm not going to pass judgement on you as a mother or as a wife, since I'm neither and don't know what I'd do if put in that position (though I'm guessing that the reaction you had was at least partly due to the other mom's).

What I will say though is that your story made me feel sad. I have dozens of photos of me as a small child with little friends I had only for a few minutes, or a few days. The names and circumstances are long gone from my memory, of course, but it's nice to look at those pics once in a blue moon. What happened to innocence and when did we start seeing evil everywhere ?
 
So is the "new" standard that strangers can demand you not take photos of your child if their child is in range? I get it about people taking random shots, deliberately zooming in on a child that isn't theirs. I don't get it about parents being forbidden to take a photo of their own child, and getting in a lot of trouble if they do.

Wow, what a twist of words! If the case were a parent taking a photo of their own child, then why would they be 'in trouble.' I don't think anyone indicated that at all. However, if a parent is taking pictures of two kids--one their own, one not--against the other stranger-parents wishes...then yeah, there is a BIG problem.
 
i don't know if this has been mentioned because i didn't read the whole thread, sorry. but if you are taking a picture, it can screw up the photopass pictures and disney really wants to sell those pictures. I know they offer to take your picture with your camera but they really want you t obuy the cds so lately they have been picky about where people stand in order to get the perfect shot. also it seems a bit wierd to me that anyone would want to take a picture of someone else's family posing with a character, so I can see disney saying no when families are there, but when it's in between families, then there really is no reason why you couldn't take a quick candid shot. I think the character handlers are just being over protective of their characters because of all the problems they have had with tigger especially.
 

What happened to innocence and when did we start seeing evil everywhere ?

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Why don't you have a seat over there.
 
Oh, come on! Don't get all faux-wounded. You're the one who posted it to begin with... If you can dish it out, you should be prepared to take it.

I can take anything I dish out. However, I shared a story, I didn't "dish" out anything or criticize anyone else--I shared a story, not passing judgement on anyone. Trust me, I've been around public forums for a while....I'm pretty thick skinned and don't give rude comments such as yours a second thought once I cut off my PC.


I'm not going to pass judgement on you as a mother or as a wife

Thank you.:)

I have dozens of photos of me as a small child with little friends I had only for a few minutes, or a few days. The names and circumstances are long gone from my memory, of course, but it's nice to look at those pics once in a blue moon.

Apparently then the parents of those children didn't mind. I would love my child to have a pic to save forever of every 'friend' she meets. However, not at the price of upsetting another parent because of my lack of consideration. I get your point and agree--it is very unfortunate when as a parent (or person) you have to even question the intentions of people partaking in something so innocent as taking a picture.
 
Wow, what a twist of words! If the case were a parent taking a photo of their own child, then why would they be 'in trouble.' I don't think anyone indicated that at all. However, if a parent is taking pictures of two kids--one their own, one not--against the other stranger-parents wishes...then yeah, there is a BIG problem.

I guess I don't agree. Parents who don't want any photos probably shouldn't be visiting WDW. To expect that each and every visitor will either get verbal permission from everyone in range of their child or carefully segregate their child or children away from any other individual in the park is, I think, unreasonable, unworkable and unnecessary.

I can tell we differ on this, and that's OK. Please know, though, that this isn't a highly charged emotional issue for me. I don't see other guests in shots of a vacationing family's children a "big" problem. I do see other guests over dictating the park experience for other as a problem, and one that isn't positive.
 
I find it amusing that there are parents who are so paranoid, particularly because I'm sure these are the same parents who will howl and carry on if I stand in line by myself, or with my DD12 and DM, to get pictures of the characters. I'm sure they'll be complaining that I'm ruining it for the "kids" and that I'm an adult who shouldn't be wasting precious character time because Little Johnny and Little Suzie won't get their turn. Probably the same people who think I have no business watching the parade from a good vantage point because it's for the kids, not the adults. :headache:
 
To expect that each and every visitor will either get verbal permission from everyone in range of their child or carefully segregate their child or children away from any other individual in the park is, I think, unreasonable, unworkable and unnecessary.

There is a difference between a child being in range and in the background who just 'happens' to show up in the background of a picture and a parent 'directing' your child and taking a picture of them when they are at close range and the clear main target. (Especially give the fact that this particular lady had already demonstrated she was NOT OK with this.)

I can tell we differ on this, and that's OK. Please know, though, that this isn't a highly charged emotional issue for me. I do see other guests over dictating the park experience for other as a problem, and one that isn't positive.

Of course it's OK to disagree...how boring a world would it be if we all shared the exact same thoughts for every little thing. The photo-taking aspect is not a supercharged emotional issue for me either. People who have NO inside knowledge regarding my family who make comments suggesting I have "robbed" my family of memories or similarly suggesting that I didn't properly handle a situation as it pertained to US...that DOES get to me. As far as my particular situation, no one was over dictating the park...it was a situation between myself, hubby and one other person....not a parkwide infringment of rights.

But like you said, we differ in opinion...I guess we are both guilty of being human.
 
It's sad that a few perverts and pedos have hijacked an art medium. Photography is such a wonderful way to capture the beauty of the human spirit. But now you take a picture that for you celebrates a love of living, beauty, or has some emotional element and your labled a perv. I can't imagine living with that kind of extreme paranoia - and I'm a pretty anxiety filled person.

Would it make a difference if instead of a camera the person had a sketch book?

There's protecting your childen (because child abuse is very real and serious) and then there's being overly paranoid and teaching them that everyone with a camera is some pedo that wants to molest them. And considering that the number of children who are abused by strangers is relatively small against the number of children who are abused by family (Statistic from darkness2light):

-30-40% of victims are abused by a family member. (2, 44, 76)
-Another 50% are abused by someone outside of the family whom they know and trust.
-Approximately 40% are abused by older or larger children whom they know. (1, 44)
-Therefore, only 10% are abused by strangers

I think you have more to worry about fellow family members taking pictures of your children than some stranger.
 
I'm sure these are the same parents who will howl and carry on if I stand in line by myself, or with my DD12 and DM, to get pictures of the characters. I'm sure they'll be complaining that I'm ruining it for the "kids" and that I'm an adult who shouldn't be wasting precious character time because Little Johnny and Little Suzie won't get their turn. Probably the same people who think I have no business watching the parade from a good vantage point because it's for the kids, not the adults.

For the record, I think the only people who should be allowed to see the characters or have a prime parade spot are those who had a ticket valid for admission on that day.:3dglasses
 
Some people think that telling a CM to turn off a camera which takes riders photos on certain attractions is overreacting. You don't have to agree.

Once again, nobody is making fun of abused children. THEY ARE MAKING FUN OF YOU!!

Just because you think people should ask to take photos doesn't make it fact. That's a matter of opinion. I don't think I should have to ask to take anyone's photo in public from a distance and I wouldn't expect other people to ask me either.

Somehow I missed this little gem, you could see where I was confused. The original poster said vampire children. The correct way of making fun of me would be to say YOU ARE A VAMPIRE. Again simple, the poster says "vampire children" their making fun of the kids. They say "Vampire poster merryweather20" they are making fun of me. Perhaps time for an English course... Well for everyone that thought they were making fun of me when they specifically stated "children".

As for overreacting by asking the CM to turn the camera off... How is this overreacting? The kids can't have their picture taken by mandate, so it was the only way for them to enjoy the ride. Overeacting?? :confused3 Seems like a simple solution to me.
 
Somehow I missed this little gem, you could see where I was confused. The original poster said vampire children. The correct way of making fun of me would be to say YOU ARE A VAMPIRE. Again simple, the poster says "vampire children" their making fun of the kids. They say "Vampire poster merryweather20" they are making fun of me. Perhaps time for an English course... Well for everyone that thought they were making fun of me when they specifically said children in their comments.

As for overreacting by asking the CM to turn the camera off... How is this overreacting? The kids can't have their picture taken by mandate, so it was the only way for them to enjoy the ride. Overeacting?? :confused3 Seems like a simple solution to me.

Doesnt sound 'simple' at all. Especially if the other people in the picture WANTED a picture of them.. The SIMPLE thing to do, would be NOT to ride rides that have pictures taken. Why ruin other peoples fun?

I dont think you ever did say where the film taking thing happened? Was it in the US?

And the 'vampire' statment, had to do not with the children per se, but people were trying to figure out why.... oh nevermind, no reason to even try to explain..

Edit: And good God, when I said 'wanted a picture of them' I of course didnt mean the kids, I meant the other riders.. Before you wonder why someone would want a picture of your kids..
 
Doesnt sound 'simple' at all. Especially if the other people in the picture WANTED a picture of them.. The SIMPLE thing to do, would be NOT to ride rides that have pictures taken. Why ruin other peoples fun?

I dont think you ever did say where the film taking thing happened? Was it in the US?

And the 'vampire' statment, had to do not with the children per se, but people were trying to figure out why.... oh nevermind, no reason to even try to explain..

Edit: And good God, when I said 'wanted a picture of them' I of course didnt mean the kids, I meant the other riders.. Before you wonder why someone would want a picture of your kids..

You're right to heck with the kids! Imagine them, wanting to have fun and go on a ride. You're right they are vampires!

Well turns out they're not, my Uncle waited to the end of the day and they got a log all to themselves. They're nice people (after all they've given their time to be foster parents) so of course they wouldn't want to inconvenience anyone. I probably shouldn't have told you this either though. If I can judge by the rest of the thread you guys will think that the extremely simple curtesy of waiting for a slow period was OVEREACTING and CRAZYNESS.

And again if the vampire children statement didn't have to do with the children, they could have say not called the children vampires... Oh nevermind, no reason to even try to explain..
 
You're right to heck with the kids! Imagine them, wanting to have fun and go on a ride. You're right they are vampires!

Well turns out they're not, my Uncle waited to the end of the day and they got a log all to themselves. They're nice people (after all they've given their time to be foster parents) so of course they wouldn't want to inconvenience anyone. I probably shouldn't have told you this either though. If I can judge by the rest of the thread you guys will think that the extremely simple curtesy of waiting for a slow period was OVEREACTING and CRAZYNESS.

And again if the vampire children statement didn't have to do with the children, they could have say not called the children vampires... Oh nevermind, no reason to even try to explain..

Legend has it vampires CANNOT BE PHOTOGRAPHED. The picture comes out blank. That's the whole vampire thing in a nutshell.
 
You are incorrect the original poster said specifically of Foster kids, occasionally they came with a "state mandate" that said they
could not have their picture taken as an example of a good reason why someone should ask before taking a photograph of someone else's child.

Just to be clear, the original poster (OP) didn't say taht at all, a previous poster (PP) did. I don't mean to nitpick but I don't want people to confuse that particular line of reasoning with what the OP thinks.

There is a difference between a child being in range and in the background who just 'happens' to show up in the background of a picture and a parent 'directing' your child and taking a picture of them when they are at close range and the clear main target.

Here's the thing. Many of us don't see what that difference is. Legally, both are fine and either way, the kid ends up in a stranger's photo. Just explain to me what's so wrong about someone having a photo of your child.
 
We sometimes get really far behind them and snap a quick photo while next person is walking up. I know it is totally rude, but the pictures are so funny of how small you look compared to the character. It is rare we do this.
 












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