I need info on Gastric By Pass surgery---anyone know anyone that has had it?

I really worry about the future of the lady I mentioned earlier. She has a 8yr DD that really has no one else that couldtake care of her if the mother dies young from this surgery

Oh the other hand my 2nd cousin's husband would have probably died within a yr from compications from his weight, if he didn't have surgery. If he lives 7-12 yrs after the surgery that is a good thing. He developed a condition in his legs (I can't remember the medical term) that has made walking extremely painful for several months now. I believe it was caused by diabetes. since the surgery he is off of insulin and can actually walk without pain.
 
Hearing about all of these people who have died after this surgery is very, very scary!

My former best friend's daughter had this surgery just about 2 years ago and now it makes me wonder what the long-term outcome might be..:(
 
Early posts said that the life expectancy after bypass is 10 - 20 years (I think)? Is this true?
 
My sister had weight loss surgery in November. It wasn't the gastric bypass but something called biliopancreatic diversion and distal gastric bypass. It is a malabsorption procedure intended to restrict the amount of calories and nutrients the body absorbs. Essentially, they restricted the size of the stomach to about fist size (not nearly as small as for the typical gastric bypass) and short circuited the intestine.

She had diabetes and was so heavy that whenever she started an exercise program, she got stress fractures in her feet and had to stop and stay off her feet. She has lost 80 pounds so far and is doing great. She can eat almost anything but has to really concentrate on proteins since her body doesn't absorb as much from the food. Her portions are small but really about the size of what we all should be eating, not miniscule amounts like with the traditional gastric bypass. For example, she eats about 1/3 to 1/2 of a restaurant meal.

She has stopped take insulin and oral diebetic medications and is exercising 3 to 4 times a week. No more stress fractures!

I'm not trying to make light of the tragedies discussed on this thread. . .it is MAJOR surgery with REAL risks. But there are success stories out there and the surgery offers a real opportunity to improve quality of life for some folks.

Peggy
 

I have a comment! I have noticed how many people need plastic surgery after GBS to remove excess skin.

PLEASE take note that if the weight is lost through correct diet and exercise is is almost unheard of for the need for this kind of after-care.

I have seen many pictures of very very fat people (300-400 pounds) that lost the weigh normally and look fantastic. No excess skin. And a lot of these people had the weight on for years and years.

When you have this surgery your body cannot take in the adequate amount of food to keep the proper muscle balance. These people also tend not to exercise right off the bat to get the weight off so they simply do not develop the muscle tone to help the body return to "normal".

Losing a large amount of weight does not mean you have to excess skin!!!
 
This info was not for me personally, but someone close to me, and they're Doc. said they were a "perfect candidate" for this surgery.
 
After reading all of the responses to the question about Gastric Bypass - I felt I needed to reply. I had GBS on 6/3/03 and have lost 125 lbs. I have gone from 273-148lbs and couldn't be happier. I had no complications and am thrilled to have my life back. I no longer suffer from GERD, sleep apena, aching joints, night sweats and alike. I had tried to lose weight for years, trying every diet out there. I agree this surgery is NOT for everyone and you should do your homework before comitting to it. Far too many people think it will solve everything, but have no clue what they are getting into. I have to supplement daily. I take several supplements including calcium and B12. If I don't I could cause myself problem in the future. It is something I am willing to commit to. I also have blood work done on a monthly basis to be sure all of my levels are where they should be. I am happy to say everything is fine after 10 months.

After reading everyone's posts I felt there are tons of misconceptions. First and formost - it is not true GB patients die after 15-20 years. I'd like to know the source of that information. If it is not done based on the current current surgeries being preformed (3 of the most common - RNY gastric bypass, DS Switch or gastric band) then I don't think it is acurate to surgeries being done today.

Second, yes some people can have complications and have issues with some foods. There are many of us that do not. I belong to a support group with hundreds of post-op gastric bypass patients who are healthy and happy and are living normal lives eating normal foods.

Third, if someone has been overweight - morbidly obese - for years and then loses weight no matter how, they will have skin redundancy. Some GB patients do not require surgery it depends on the person. I know plenty who want and need plastic surgery, but I also know many who don't.

For me this surgery was the answer, but it isn't the answer for everyone.
 
I haven't been able to get this out of my mind since I started reading this thread, so I've been surfing the net and found this article that might be of interest to anyone who is considering this procedure..

It's definitely something that must be WELL thought out and only considered as a last ditch effort.. The possible complications appear to be very serious and the reversal quite costly.. :(

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Although safe, gastric bypass surgery still carries risks
Judy Stanford

December 22, 2003

At 27, Jeremy Martinez of Espanole, N.M., weighed 334 pounds. He was suffering from some of the complications of obesity, including sleep apnea, a potentially fatal sleep disorder.

Unable to lose the weight on his own, Martinez joined the nearly 103,000 Americans each year who choose to undergo the weight loss surgery known as a gastric bypass.

But, unlike the majority of bypass patients, Martinez, who had traveled to Los Angeles in September for the surgery, encountered problems that wouldn’t go away. Since the surgery, the father of three has been bedridden, unable to keep any food down. Martinez spent four weeks in the intensive care unit of his local hospital after he began having problems, including seizures.

He was sent home with a tube running through his nose and a PICC line, short for peripherally inserted cardiac catheter, going into the blood vessels near his heart.

On Nov. 24, Martinez had emergency surgery to reverse the bypass, after he began having seizures again.

Although doctors say the surgery is safe, there are some risks.

And, although the incidence of major problems is small, the list of potential complications is long. The risks during surgery include leaks in the intestine, life-threatening pulmonary embolisms and too-small openings called stomach stenosis. Estimates for the risk of death from gastric bypass surgery range from one in 350 to one in 200, depending on the source. Even when the surgery goes right, long-term risks may include gall bladder problems, hair loss, osteoporosis and other conditions associated with malnutrition.

A degree of risk
“As soon as I got home,” Martinez said, “I knew something was wrong.”

He suffered from severe nausea and vomiting from the outset.

Nausea is to be expected after the surgery, the experts say, but this and other minor problems resolve themselves within weeks, as the body gets used to the smaller stomach.

“About three weeks after that, I started having fainting spells and seizures,” said the vocational school teacher. “I would go to my regular doctor and he would correspond with the doctors who did the bypass and they would say there was nothing wrong.”

About a month ago, after repeated trips to the emergency room, Martinez’s wife, Tammy, took him to a Santa Fe, N.M., hospital, where a CT scan and upper GI series revealed the problem.

His stomach was almost completely closed off.

In about two months, Martinez has lost 50 pounds.

The problem is not uncommon, said Lafayette surgeon Dr. Uyen Chu.

“We’ve had some complications with stomach stenosis, where the opening from the stomach to the intestine becomes narrowed so food can’t pass through to the pouch and you throw up all the time. We go in with a balloon and stretch it out.”

In Martinez’s case, however, the opening was too small even for a balloon to pass through, he said.

Martinez’s doctors estimated that he would not be strong enough for corrective surgery until January, but the schedule had to be accelerated because of the seizures.

Defining the complications
While most of the news about gastric bypass surgery extols its almost miraculous results, there is little emphasis on the small percentage of bad outcomes.

“The early complication rate is about 15 to 20 percent,” Chu said. “The late complication rate is about 5 percent and the re-operation rate is about 2 or 3 percent.”

Complications sometimes depend on the surgeon performing the operation, said Dr. Thomas Borland, who has been doing weight-loss surgery since the 1980s. The more experienced the surgeon, the smaller risk of complications.

“The main complication that kills patients is pulmonary embolism,” Borland said.

The embolisms are blood clots in the extremities that break free and lodge in the lungs.

Even when the surgery goes right, Borland and Chu emphasize that the patient and doctor must be committed to lifelong follow-up care.

Vitamin deficiencies are a natural outcome, which allows only a very small amount of food into the tiny stomach pouch, and, in the case of the Roux-en-Y procedure, eliminates about 18 inches of the small intestine, and causes malabsorption of the food that does get through.

Gastric bypass patients also are cautioned to avoid becoming pregnant for at least 16 months after the surgery, Borland said.

“Some will suffer some malnutrition,” Borland said, “but the majority will have normal babies.”

Reversing the surgery
While most problems associated with the surgery can be overcome with time and care, there are still cases such as that of Martinez.

“I think it doesn’t happen often, only in about 1 percent of patients,” said Houston surgeon Dr. Adam Naaman, one of only a few physicians in the United States qualified to revise or reverse the surgery.

Naaman has done more than 250 operations to repair or reverse the procedure since 1985.

Naaman said some people simply cannot tolerate the surgery.

“As a matter of fact, I saw a lady who came from California. She had the surgery a year ago and lost 100 pounds, but can’t eat anything, because it hurts.”

While the public doesn’t often hear such negative reports, Dani Hart, author of “I Want to Live: Gastric Bypass Reversal,” hears it all the time.

Her own surgery in 2000 left her with symptoms including chronic vomiting, shaking, malnutrition, heart palpitations, muscle weakness, hypoglycemia, lactose intolerance, hair loss and eventually, osteoporosis.

“By the time I had the (reversal) I was in the beginning stages of organ failure,” Hart said.

Her doctors were unsympathetic, Hart said. “They said I was overeating, but when I had the reversal, they found the ring inverted itself when the food went down, so the food would come out.”

Hart added that she had lived on broth and puréed soup for a year and a half, until Dr. James B. Swain of the Scottsdale, Ariz., branch of the Mayo Clinic reversed the surgery in March 2002.

Her experience has prompted Hart to become a resource for others.

“People are so desperate for help,” Hart said. “The problem is trying to find someone who will take them.”

Finding a surgeon
Reversing the surgery is a concept new to the medical community, Naaman said.

“I think it takes years of doing (the surgery) to develop the expertise and confidence to do a revision or reversal. And some surgeons don’t know some of these can be revised or reversed.”

Naaman made a presentation to a meeting of the American College of Surgeons in September on how to revise some of the procedures.

Naaman, whose patients come from around the country, has no official statistics on how many surgeons do reversals.

“It’s very hard to say,” he said. “I hear many times of people who are quite well known, but yet, their patients come and tell me their surgeon won’t do a reversal.”

Even those who do reverse the surgery often have certain requirements, including patients who want the reversal done for the “wrong reasons.”

Naaman doesn’t see it that way.

“We offer psychological help and dietary help, but a very small number of them feel they would rather be the way they were, so we reverse the surgery. It’s their stomach.

“It’s not an issue of fault; it’s an issue of it’s not the surgery for them. There are very few things in life that are perfect.”

Finding a surgeon to reverse the procedure is only one of the hurdles, Hart said. Paying for it is the other. The cost for the reversal can be as much as the $20,000-to-$45,000 price tag for the original surgery — more if the complications are severe. And insurance companies are often reluctant to cover reversals.

“The insurance companies need a medical necessity,” Hart said. “You’d better be pretty sick.”

On the Web:
For information or support groups, visit the following Web sites:
www.drnaaman.com
www.obesityhelp.com
To read the entire series, visit www.theadvertiser.com



©The Lafayette Daily Advertiser
December 22, 2003
 
I have a question for those of you who know so many people who have had it, and have passed away from it.

How on EARTH do you handle the guilt? :( My SIL is having it this week. She's a big girl, but by no means is her weight impacting her health as badly as it could. And she's only 23. :mad: How did she find a doctor to allow her to do this? We've never seen her make a real attempt at losing weight any other way, so I'm just terribly afraid.

I'm so afraid that either something is going to happen on the table, in the hospital, a year later or 10 years from now if what you say is true about life expectancy. A 23 year should be able to live to 33. :rolleyes:

So, having read this thread, I'm really afraid that, while the entire family is going to be so "proud" of her when she starts losing noticeable amount, I'm going to constantly be worrying... and what if something DOES happen? I will feel just AWFUL for the entire family, and my in-laws, because I will have known all along how truly risky it was... it's just so difficult to swallow.

I really, truly hope she is one of the OTHER statistics who MAKES it. There are some of those people, right?

Julia
 
Julia,

To this day I feel guilt over BL's death. She is the person from these boards that I was so close to. I know that myself, along with more friends asked if not begged her to think about it and NOT have it done. That being said, and I'm sure this will bring a smile to many faces here, IF YOU KNEW BEVERLY LYNN YOU KNEW HER ATTITUDE! NO ONE TOLD BL what she should or shouldn't do. Once her mind was made up about something or someone or ANYTHING that was IT! She was 150% sure about the surgery from day one. Even after Robin passed away she was still determined. Everytime I mentioned the surgery in a negative way she told me, YOU KNOW ME AND I'M HAVING IT, NOW DROP IT. There is no way that any of us, even her closest friends would have or COULD have made her change her mind. Believe me we tried!! Still the guilt is there, even knowing there is NOTHING I could have done.......even if we had gone to PA and tried to drag her out of the hospital she would have had it done. If your SIL is determined, there is nothing you can do.

{{{HUGS}}} and hopefully she is one of the ones that it does good for.
 
Originally posted by JuliaEeyore
I have a question for those of you who know so many people who have had it, and have passed away from it.

How on EARTH do you handle the guilt?

I didn't know much about the surgery when Robin had it, I didn't think she needed to do it but she was determined that it was for her. She had to gain weight to qualify, I knew it was considered risky and asked her about it. She said that the Drs she should be fine because of her age and general good health. After the surgery she was so excited about the weight loss she achieved. She had so many plans. I don't know if the surgery was even related to her death since she died of an aortic aneurysm, I believe in her abdomin but I've hated to ask her mom to verify that. I do feel that it was related in some way, she died about 6mths after surgery, she was 23. I think sometimes if there was something I could have said that would have changed her mind but I don't think there was but you still wish you could have.

Beverly as Beauty said was determined to have the surgery, so many mentioned it and we were concerned about Robin's death being related. They had become good friends as they had so much in common including being single mothers of adorable little girls. She told us she would be okay, and died about 3 mths later of liver failure. Her death also wasn't considered by the Drs to be due to the bypass. They attributed it to the pain medication she took, I just don't buy that it wasn't related. She'd taken pain meds for her knee and other things for years. Liver failure is also listed as one of the side effects of GPS. It seems that the difference in the way her body absorbed the pain meds probably killed her.

Both of them knew the statistics, no one believes they are going to be that 1 in 200. I just feel strongly that anyone who has the surgery needs to seriously recognize that death is a very real possiblity. They are at risk, if not immediately there can be complications after. The benefits have to out weigh the risk and I think that is true for a very small percentage of the people having this surgery right now.

I haven't found the stats that say people live 10-20 years after GPS. I've looked and found very little information on long term impact. The percentage of surgeries has dramatically increased in the last couple of years. I don't think there are any good studies on the long term effects.
 
As Beauty has already stated, many of us tried to voice our concerns with GB surgery to Bevery Lynn aka Sparkly Zoe. We were afraid for her life. But she was determined to go ahead with the surgery.

There's only so much you can do when someone has their mind made up. :(
 
This is all such sad and scary stuff.

After reading this and knowing what we know about some of the DIS friends who've undertaken th e surgery unsuccessfully, if I come across anyone I know who is considering it(and who may not be in dire need) I may just risk becoming the biggest pain in the butt and absolutely blitz them with some of the anecdotes and statistics provided here.

Thanks all for sharing.:(
 
My sister outlaw had this done about 5 years ago. She was 5'2 and over 400 lbs. She is now a size 4 and looks awesome. She has turned her life around big time.

I have 3 friends that have had this done. All have done really well and seem to be living life a lot more happily and actively since having the procedure.

I am 5'6" and weigh about 365 lbs. I want this surgery. My health has been going down hill for about the last 6 years. I don't do diets very well on my own. I have really bad knees and my back is not so great either, so excercise is not so easy either. I have dieted off and on since I was a child. My mother was 5'0" and was over 400 lbs at one point. I come by the fluff honestly.

If I can talk my insurance company into paying for the surgery next year, I am really thinking that it's time to go the route of drastic measures. My honey is a surgical tech and has assisted in more of these surgeries than I can count. Some went well and some didn't. A lot depends on the skill of the surgeon and the health status of the patient. Luckily, I have a good idea of who not to choose as a surgeon. lol

This is my perspective on it. Maggie
 
The Person whom I am speaking of......is my DH Bill. I have already told him I am not too happy about this surgery, and would not have it myself.:o I am 5'2" and weigh between 200-204. He is 5'7" and weighs 270. He has diabetes and High Blood, and his Doc. said he was a perfect candidate---it only costs $15,000.00!:eek: His insurance will not pay.
 
I can't speak from the viewpoint of someone who has struggled with being overweight as I have the opposite problem - I've always been underweight..

BUT - after doing some research after I read this thread I would be very concerned if someone I loved were considering this procedure.. There HAS to be a better, less frightening, less life-altering, less life-threatening way.. If not, then everyone would HAVE to have this surgery - and we all know of people who have lost large amounts of weight and improved their health through other measures..

The risks just seem to be way too high..:(

To whoever is considering this surgery, PLEASE give it some more thought...
 
he said the statistics are that approx 1 in 200 people die from this

realize that this is a very high percentage of complication for a medical therapy.
 
I have an online friend who had this surgery 3 years ago. She was very close to 400 lbs (I think 398 when she went in). She lost 150lbs and while she is still not "thin", she is much happier. She is currently expecting her 4th child (2nd since surgery). She was very scared going in as her mom had died on the surgery table. But she is very happy that she did it.
 














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