I have to stop watching shows about Michael Jackson

[Belle0101]

I just finished watching Dateline and I think I might cry. His life, as portrayed on Dateline, was so tragic.

I need to stay away from sad shows.

 

[clutter]

OMG, I'd never heard his song "gone too soon" that they played at the end. Beautiful.

 

[Skywalker]

Yeah, I watched Dateline also, and it left me feeling so sad.

I have not ever been truly saddened by a "celebrity" death before but this one hits me hard for some reason. I wasn't even a particularly big fan of his.

It is just so tragic I guess.

Anyway, hugs to you.

 

[Belle0101]

OMG, I'd never heard his song "gone too soon" that they played at the end. Beautiful.

I know! I was doing okay and then they played that ...

 

[IDoDis]

I loved that song when it came out. I had the album so I loved all of the songs! Jackson wrote that song in honor of Ryan White, a boy who died at the age of 18 from complications of aids due to a blood transfusion when he was younger.

It's almost as if he wrote that song about himself though --

"Born to amuse, to inspire, to delight. Here one day -- gone one night."

 

[Belle0101]

I really have to stop doing this to myself. I looked up the lyrics to "Childhood", was reading another post ...

Childhood lyrics
Have you seen my Childhood?
I'm searching for the world that I come from
'Cause I've been looking around
In the lost and found of my heart...
No one understands me
They view it as such strange eccentricities...
'Cause I keep kidding around
Like a child, but pardon me...

People say I'm not okay
'Cause I love such elementary things...
It's been my fate to compensate,
for the Childhood
I've never known...

Have you seen my Childhood?
I'm searching for that wonder in my youth
Like pirates in adventurous dreams,
Of conquest and kings on the throne...

Before you judge me, try hard to love me,
Look within your heart then ask,
Have you seen my Childhood?

People say I'm strange that way
'Cause I love such elementary things,
It's been my fate to compensate,
for the Childhood I've never known...

Have you seen my Childhood?
I'm searching for that wonder in my youth
Like fantastical stories to share
The dreams I would dare, watch me fly...

Before you judge me, try hard to love me.
The painful youth I've had

Have you seen my Childhood...

 

[amberg@eastlink.ca]

i didn't catch it but i know i'm watching it too much, last week ds (2) grabbed a lone black glove and put it on his hand.....i think i've immersed us in the coverage too much!!!

 

[Belle0101]

i didn't catch it but i know i'm watching it too much, last week ds (2) grabbed a lone black glove and put it on his hand.....i think i've immersed us in the coverage too much!!!

That's kinda cute though.

 

[DeluxePrincess]

One thing for sure is that Michael's death is really making me remember what an awesome performer he was. For the last ten years of his life the focus was mainly on allegations and his odd appearance/behavior. This guy truly had a talent sent from God. I can't get enough of his videos these days.

 

[MoniqueU]

I used to be a huge fan of his when I was a kid. I even got to see the Victory tour in Las Angeles. I read tons of books on him and followed everything about him that being said as I got older and he got stranger and stranger I lost my love of him. Yes he was abused as a child, so was I BFD. He made his choices, he did alot of freaky stuff to himself and engaged in alot of self destructive behavior and I am sure really hurt his family and obviously his death which he greatly contributed to has really devestated them. Like ANS you have to take a certain responsibility for yourself. I have trouble feeling sorry for him. JMHO.

 

[Mysteria]

Allegations are not paid off over and over IMHO. Amazing musicain, artist, perfomer yes. Amazing human being, no. There was no pedestal recently until he died. Why is there now?

 

[WDWBarb]

Allegations are not paid off over and over IMHO. Amazing musicain, artist, perfomer yes. Amazing human being, no. There was no pedestal recently until he died. Why is there now?

I understand that a lot of people feel the way that you do. I have to disagree about the quality of his humanity - I feel that Michael was a very good person who started out his life with a heart that was just way too big for this world.

Of course, our perspectives may come from a disagreement on whether or not he was guilty of the crimes he was accused of. I personally don't believe that he was - but no one but Michael and his accusers can ever know the truth.

Michael was known for giving both is money and his time. The list you can find here it very long.

http://www.jacksonaction.com/?page=charity.htm

As for what Michael was doing to his face and his body and some of the "weirdness" that made people so uncomfortable in the last decade or so.. I believe it was just the sign of his mental illness. Yes, Michael had issues. I can't imagine any human being living under the pressure of being Michael Jackson and not simply cracking apart. That's what happened to him. Very few "child stars" escape this unfortunate outcome. My personal opinion is that Michael spent much of his life trying to regain what his missed as a child.

His talent was absolutely immeasureable. His impact on the culture of the late 20th century was enormous. He helped a lot of people in his life (more than any of us could probably ever hope to). And for some of us there was and always will be a pedestal reserved for Michael. I attended a local memorial event in my city last week and the number of people there was shocking. I saw SO many people I knew there and everyone was dancing and smiling and remembering the positive impact he had on our lives. As I told someone there - it's great to be "allowed" to love Michael again. It's just so sad that it has to be at this cost.

So maybe that's what is happening. All of us that have been closet MJ fans since we were driven into hiding are taking this time to celebrate his life, rejoice in his legacy and remember how Michael made us feel.

I think it's so sad that he's gone, but I think it's absolutely wonderful that he will continue to bring joy to people for generations to come.

 

[TangaroaTiki]

Michael was this incredible, multi-talented human being with the most innocent and gentle soul. Of course he was misunderstood - how many of us have that combination? I never believed the abuse allegations. He only seemed to want to BE a kid, not abuse one. I only hope he was able to take solace in his private life and find some peace there during his short time here.

I am happy to have seen the Victory Tour in the 80's also - my first concert

 

[Robinrs]

Al Roker said what I feel, MJ sang the tapesty of my life.

When he was a kid, I was a kid.

When he was a teenager, I was a teenager.

I was in my 20s when he had his comeback with Off the Wall.

I was in my "disco" hey day when Thriller, Bad and Beat It came out.

When I was going thru serious issues of with my ex and having children, so was he.

The main difference between us was I was totally allowed to be a child, allowed to love my life and allowed to love and be loved. I feel like he missed what I lived and how different his life would've been if he had that.

It's so sad...

 

[Christine]

Addressing the lack of childhood issue: What do you think the difference was between The Jackon 5 and The Osmonds? Now, while we all know that the Donny Osmond never came close to Michael's fame, during that period in the early-70s, at least where I lived, The Osmonds were every bit as popular as The Jackson 5, if not more so. I remember my first concert being The Jackson 5 (I was about 7) and we were in a smallish theater in Maryland. The next concert was The Osmonds and we were in a huge, sold-out arena. Donny Osmond and Michael are close enough in age and both spent the better parts of their childhood in the limelight. Was it the way the Jackons family ran the boys that contributed? Were the Osmonds more family centered and, as such, didn't "work" Donny Osmond as much. Just different personalities? I'm just wondering why Michael seemed to be scarred so much more than others.

 

[WDWBarb]

Addressing the lack of childhood issue: What do you think the difference was between The Jackon 5 and The Osmonds? Now, while we all know that the Donny Osmond never came close to Michael's fame, during that period in the early-70s, at least where I lived, The Osmonds were every bit as popular as The Jackson 5, if not more so. I remember my first concert being The Jackson 5 (I was about 7) and we were in a smallish theater in Maryland. The next concert was The Osmonds and we were in a huge, sold-out arena. Donny Osmond and Michael are close enough in age and both spent the better parts of their childhood in the limelight. Was it the way the Jackons family ran the boys that contributed? Were the Osmonds more family centered and, as such, didn't "work" Donny Osmond as much. Just different personalities? I'm just wondering why Michael seemed to be scarred so much more than others.

I believe that the Osmonds had strong family values and made that their priority.

And why Michael had such a terrible childhood?

First, there was Joe.

I also believe that being the youngest of the Jackson 5 - touring with his brothers that were older than he (and didn't have his talent) ripped away any chance he had of a normal childhood.

 

[crz4mm2]

Al Roker said what I feel, MJ sang the tapesty of my life.

When he was a kid, I was a kid.

When he was a teenager, I was a teenager.

I was in my 20s when he had his comeback with Off the Wall.

I was in my "disco" hey day when Thriller, Bad and Beat It came out.


The main difference between us was I was totally allowed to be a child, allowed to love my life and allowed to love and be loved. I feel like he missed what I lived and how different his life would've been if he had that.

It's so sad...

Me too. I could have written your post. (with the exception of the ex part).

 

[teacups]

I dont think its fair to say "I was an abused kid too and I turned out ok." Or "So and so was a child star too." How can we gauge anothers situation? Everyone digests differently and we dont know even 1% of the details of any of them.

I have been watching and reading too much too. I dont know if he did or did not abuse boys.. but I do know that a lot of people will do and say anything for a buck. Someone else is judging MJ now so its out of our hands. And maybe one day it'll be the boys or their parents who are judged, yes?

I was not a fan either but his life and death are heartbreaking to me. I feel bad for his kids. I missed Dateline and I guess I should be glad I missed it. And must add, that now I am a fan. He was an amazing talent and will go down in history without a doubt.

 

[amberg@eastlink.ca]

lol yeah i thought so too!!!

That's kinda cute though.

 

[Christine]

I dont think its fair to say "I was an abused kid too and I turned out ok." Or "So and so was a child star too." How can we gauge anothers situation? Everyone digests differently and we dont know even 1% of the details of any of them.

I agree with you and I hope you didn't think I was implying that since Donny Osmond appears to be okay, well, then why isn't Michael? Not that at all. I am more or less responding to the media reports and statements being made that, due to his fame, his childhood was taken from him, because he was pushed to perform so often and for so long. My point was, what did the Jacksons do that was so different from everyone else? I mean, Donny Osmond was the youngest of all those brothers too. But, I agree with the other posters that I think that some people, like the Osmonds, or even say Miley Cyrus and her family live a certain way and still manage to enforce family and try to allow those younger performs to still be children. I guess, coupled with Michael's innate sensitivities and his cruel father, he was just doomed.