I do not think virtual queues will be implemented

[Bird003]

Think about it, everyone was herded together trying to book rise of the resistance at the same time. That cannot work with social distancing. The only way to go is with fast passes. They can stagger them every hour and limit number.

 

[mom2rtk]

Think about it, everyone was herded together trying to book rise of the resistance at the same time. That cannot work with social distancing. The only way to go is with fast passes. They can stagger them every hour and limit number.

Or roll out paid FP under the guise of limiting the crowds. Win/win for Disney.

 

[snappy]

Paid FP’s would not surprise me.

 

[Davey Jones II]

I agree that a "fast pass only" system would work best. People arrive at different times, only during their window. They can be separated outside the attraction by demarcation lines, then let in one party at a time. No more standby lines, no cluster of people in a queue. It would work.

 

[Micca]

Or roll out paid FP under the guise of limiting the crowds.

Mr Iger & Mr Chapek would like to see your resume. You're their kind of CM

 

[DLgal]

Yeah, if everything was all of a sudden virtual queues, where would all the people go who aren't now standing in queues? They would just pack the walking paths, which totally defeats the purpose.

Imagine if they limited park attendance to the total ride capacity per hour of each park? That seems to be the only way to reduce crowds everywhere all the time.

So, let's say for simplicity sake, a park has 20 attractions and each attraction has an hourly capacity of 1000. Max attendance would be 20,000 at any given time for that park. This would allow them to then cut the hourly capacity in half (so they can do social distancing like every other vehicle empty, etc) and you would still not have too many people wandering around.

So, in essence, it would look like an After Hours party all day.

 

[chicagodisneyfan]

Or roll out paid FP under the guise of limiting the crowds. Win/win for Disney.

I would like that - we would happily pay for FP

 

[Lumpy1106]

What about this scenario;
When you book FP's at 60 days (on property) or 30 days (not on property), you also pick which park you will go to on which days of your vacation. We know they are limiting park capacity in China and taking reservations in advance to do this so this is very possible for WDW. If you pick DHS, you are given the option to also get a BG for ROTR. All other rides, FP's as normal. If BG's are not available, you know right then - not day of. Let that factor into which park you visit. The crowd at the entrance then goes away. Any reason why this wouldn't work?

RD for FoP....yeah, need to think about that, but seems like BG's for that would work also in the same manner.

 

[Nebraska_Disney]

What about this scenario;
When you book FP's at 60 days (on property) or 30 days (not on property), you also pick which park you will go to on which days of your vacation. We know they are limiting park capacity in China and taking reservations in advance to do this so this is very possible for WDW. If you pick DHS, you are given the option to also get a BG for ROTR. All other rides, FP's as normal. If BG's are not available, you know right then - not day of. Let that factor into which park you visit. The crowd at the entrance then goes away. Any reason why this wouldn't work?

RD for FoP....yeah, need to think about that, but seems like BG's for that would work also in the same manner.

So, you are saying that only standard tickets would be available and not hoppers and what not? Would the FP reservations work in the park on the app or ?

 

[Kaadk]

Here's what I said about them in a different thread about a month ago:

I work with Fortune 500 companies designing business systems. Trust me, making sense is not factored into business decisions.

I agree with you that a FP only queue would limit standby lines, but again, I doubt Disney would go that way. Another possibility is that we see virtual queuing coming into play. Virtual queues would keep the people from physically lining up. But they’d have to address the massive morning crowds that Rise sees right now. Maybe allowing BGs to be selected from anywhere, as long as you hold a valid ticket for that day, instead of having to already be in the park. Non-PH tickets could be set to only allow you into the same park as your FPs, or maybe your first BG you get sets your park for that day?

Either which way though as much as I fear to admit it, there’s a strong possibility the parks don’t reopen any time soon when social distancing is still a factor. If I’m wrong, and I really hope I am, then the only way it would be viable is at limited capacity. Ride capacity would have to be running at a fraction of their normal throughput, in order to allow for sanitization between loads of riders. And to achieve that, Disney would have to man the rides with excess CMs to accomplish it. Less revenue vs higher expenses is going to be weighed against potential brand tarnishment of keeping the parks closed. Loss-leaders like that are never planned for long-term. Just not viable to the business. So, more likely than not, the parks will remain closed until the pandemic is suppressed, at which point it might just be back to business as usual, with maybe a few extra precautions.

It's still a way that they COULD make virtual queues work. Basically, you'd only get one 'virtual' queue at a time, and to avoid RD issues, you can get into the 'queue' from anywhere, as long as your ticket is good for that day. Non PH tickets would be locked to the same park, other's would be allowed to hop.

An alternative would be to implement a variation of the paper FP approach. Put an FP scanner at the entrance of a ride's standby queue, you walk by, tap, and get in the 'queue'. Your MDE will let you know when to return to get into an actual standby line. You can only be in one 'queue' at a time. If you tap another one, it's like you left the first queue and entered the second, starting the process over again. The problem with approach is that it doesn't prevent RD, and I could easily see them ending up with real lines of people waiting to get into the virtual lines. Still, there are several ways it COULD be implemented.

But, like the OP, I don't think we'd actually see it. All a virtual queue would do is promote congregating in other locations around the park. More likely than not, it will be using the standard queues, with 6' markers, and limited capacity. Based on what they've said of Shanghai, it doesn't seem that they'll be sanitizing between groups of riders, just that they're going to increase sanitization schedules. Which pretty much makes the whole thing a bit of fluff. Even keeping your distance, a rider who gets into a vehicle right after a rider who's infected, will still be taking a risk of getting infected themselves, as the virus will still be present on things like the grab handles, seat buckles, etc...

So, the best we can do, until there's a vaccine or total eradication, is just be conscious, try not to touch too much, and wash/sanitize often.

 

[Lumpy1106]

So, you are saying that only standard tickets would be available and not hoppers and what not? Would the FP reservations work in the park on the app or ?

TO be clear, I am only speculating on BG's for ROTR and maybe FoP, not all rides all day long. I'd leave FP's for everything else as-is - just trying to mitigate the rope-drop crowds.

You could hop if there is room in the park you want to hop to. I believe this is the way things work when the park reaches 100% capacity. Could be wrong - I avoid those day AMAP. You aren't getting a ROTR BG if you aren't there before park opening so park hopping really wouldn't be affected.