How to get out of union????

[mjh8955]

At my kid's orientation he signed a union card without being told it was not mandatory. This was Thursday morning. That afternoon he called the union folks and respectfully asked to change his mind. When they called him back today (Friday) they said he had to wait a year. He is only part-time. Who does he have to contact to get this taken care of??

 

[glendalais]

(I'm assuming this is at WDW. If it is by chance at DLR, membership is mandatory and he will lose his job if he leaves the union.)

At the Walt Disney World Resort, it is quite difficult to renounce union membership after the fact. It is considered an internal matter for the unions, and as such, Disney Worldwide Shared Services Payroll will generally not suspend dues deductions from a Cast Member's paycheque without receiving formal notice from the unions to do so.

One would need to refer to the internal bylaws of the labour union in question for the procedures to follow to resign one's membership.

 

[mjh8955]

Yes, it is WDW. Thanks for the information. Other than the union representative who did the presentation who else should he try and contact?

 

[glendalais]

Yes, it is WDW. Thanks for the information. Other than the union representative who did the presentation who else should he try and contact?

He can attempt to contact the labour union covering his area. I do believe you have previously mentioned that your child has been employed in a Park Operations position. As such, he can contact Unite HERE Local 362 on 407 851-0626 or by visiting their offices at 1255 LaQuinta Drive, Suite 212 in Orlando.

 

[mjh8955]

That is who he contacted. They left a phone message for him and told him he would probably have to wait a year. That can't be right, or legal, can it? He is 20, a college student. He contacted the president of the union as well and they said they would look into it on Monday. Guess he's done everything he can until he hears back on Monday.

 

[BadDad]

At 20, he's legally an adult.

A lesson to learn: Read before you sign.

 

[ladypage]

At 20, he's legally an adult.

A lesson to learn: Read before you sign.

No offense, but you've been on here a lot asking how to deal with situations with your son, so I wouldn't sound so quick to say something that seems rather snippy.

 

[justafigment84]

If he is college program he should not have been given anything from the union to sign. CP's are not part of the union and are not given the opportunity because they are casual temporary cast not full time cast.

 

[mjh8955]

He's not in the college program, just a college student with theme park management as his major, and this is a part-time job. It will count as one of his three required internships, but it isn't an internship program. He was unable to get out of the union, he has just resigned himself to it.

 

[utey]

As a 30 year union member in another state I can tell you that there is usually a once a year window in which you can sign a card to get out of the union. For me that time frame is only one week in August. This is legal.

 

[disneymegs]

There is fine print on the union card stating the fee, contract, etc. That's how they get away with not letting him out of it. I'm not in one because I started in a CP and was never offered to join when I finished my CP and stayed with the company, but my boyfriend just started part-time and at his Traditions class they presented their stuff and told everyone to sign, he luckily read the fine print and didn't sign. He said they never mentioned a fee or anything, that's the tricky part.

 

[BadDad]

No offense, but you've been on here a lot asking how to deal with situations with your son, so I wouldn't sound so quick to say something that seems rather snippy.

Ladypage: Thanks for your intrusive and unnecessary comment.

I am happy to report that my son's situtation is better when he finally got a mature roommate (2 person apt).
First set of immature roommates were terminated for underage drinking.
Second set of roommates (nice: but 60 degree thermostat and 24 hour girlfriend) are still there and still friends with him.

No more sick days (points taken off even with a doctor's note), late check-ins (he can go to bed on time and not freeze to death)

Unlike college, the 24/7 schedule of WDW will create time-schedule conflicts with groups of 6 to 8 individuals living together.

My point is: For all of the kids in the WDWCP, this is a great introduction to the adult world. The ups, downs, mistakes and corrections you encounter in the program speaks of its value. This is why an employer picks a college graduate with work experience over a graduate without it.

Good Luck and have a magical day!

 

[akhenaten]

There is fine print on the union card stating the fee, contract, etc. That's how they get away with not letting him out of it. I'm not in one because I started in a CP and was never offered to join when I finished my CP and stayed with the company, but my boyfriend just started part-time and at his Traditions class they presented their stuff and told everyone to sign, he luckily read the fine print and didn't sign. He said they never mentioned a fee or anything, that's the tricky part.

If it is printed on the card that is not "getting away with it" ... as someone said it is a lesson that we all need o read what we sign...

Personally I support unions....

 

[dnoyes]

Ladypage: Thanks for your intrusive and unnecessary comment.

I am happy to report that my son's situtation is better when he finally got a mature roommate (2 person apt).
First set of immature roommates were terminated for underage drinking.
Second set of roommates (nice: but 60 degree thermostat and 24 hour girlfriend) are still there and still friends with him.

No more sick days (points taken off even with a doctor's note), late check-ins (he can go to bed on time and not freeze to death)

Unlike college, the 24/7 schedule of WDW will create time-schedule conflicts with groups of 6 to 8 individuals living together.

My point is: For all of the kids in the WDWCP, this is a great introduction to the adult world. The ups, downs, mistakes and corrections you encounter in the program speaks of its value. This is why an employer picks a college graduate with work experience over a graduate without it.

Good Luck and have a magical day!

BadDad, I'm glad things are working out for your son. I have read several of your posts over the last few months and was kind of worried he may not make it.

On my daughters first CP she had a roommate that self termed because she didn't like her working conditions (with only 5 weeks to go) and that girl has been a mess ever since. She has been begging Disney for a 2nd chance and they wont give it to her.

When DD and several other CPer's from the fall 2009 program posted on Facebook that they were returning to do the summer 2010 Alumni program this young lady tried to take her own life. She was that upset that she had blown the chance of a lifetime.

I'm not saying anyone who terms is going to try the same thing, I'm just pointing out that it's hard for adults to connect with the thoughts of our children no matter how hard we try. You did a good job getting involved and helping him work out the problems he was having.

For any of you young adults that have made it to this point of this post Don't do the CP if you care where you will be working. Do it because it is a life changing experience. And you might meet a boy like my daughter did

 

[BadDad]

He's not in the college program, just a college student with theme park management as his major, and this is a part-time job. It will count as one of his three required internships, but it isn't an internship program. He was unable to get out of the union, he has just resigned himself to it.

On the positive side: No one know labor laws like those Union folks. I live in a resort city and throughout the summer there are news stories of local tourist stops and hotels violating labor laws.

Plus, as he moves into Theme Park management, he'll be meeting and discussing issues with union reps. This will give him insight on their point of view and issues. His experience at this early age will benefit him after he graduates!!

 

[rockydek]

Usually ...to get out of a union...a small window of opportunity comes around once a year... either your start of employment date or your birthday ...Forms need to be filed with your local union...Washington DC ...employer...etc...
good Luck!