kellyb2000
<font color=green>I admit it...my username is bori
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I would defend Lisa Whelchel to anyone. I have been a "follower" of hers, if you will, for about 3 years now. She is an excellent Christian speaker and has influenced me in a very positive way.
To say that this is child abuse is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion (but you know what they say about opinions) - go to your county's criminal court and listen in on a trial of someone charged with child abuse and then you'll get a clear picture of what abuse really is.
To say that this is child abuse is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion (but you know what they say about opinions) - go to your county's criminal court and listen in on a trial of someone charged with child abuse and then you'll get a clear picture of what abuse really is.
Yikes! I think your kid would grow up to hate you if you did things like "hot saucing" as a discipline tactic. I also don't believe in corporal punishment. This particular punishment just sounds terrible to me
From Lisa Whelchel's website--
"I dont really know what to think about all of this attention. On one hand, I dont want to back down from my position that there are times when parenting calls for tough love.
Im all for talking and reasoning with children but I think any parent will tell you that words alone are not always effective. There are times when concrete consequences can teach abstract concepts and a million wise words or time-outs wont do a thing.
Im not referring to silly just being kids kinds of issues. Im talking about the fact that there are some lessons in life that are not worth leaving up to chance, or up to my children to figure out on their own. Training them for life is my responsibility and privilege.
I dont think that I am being far-fetched to believe that if I can teach my child the gravity of lying with the sting of a drop of hot sauce then I could conceivably spare them the exponential pain of divorce, because in marriage trustworthiness is critical.
Is it any wonder todays generation has very little respect for authority? Moms and dads are afraid to parent with authority and are praised for being friends with their children. Hey, I plan on being friends with my kids; but for right now, if I have to choose between one and the other, then I will choose parent. There is plenty of time for friendship later. I dont want to visit my friend in jail because a police officer was left to teach my child about respect for authority.
I would rather cause my child a small amount of pain from my hand of love if it could spare them a much greater amount of pain later on in life. Hebrews 12:11 says, No discipline is enjoyable while it is happeningit is painful! But afterward there will be a quiet harvest of right living for those who are trained in this way.
On the other hand, Im not saying that parents should use hot sauce. I give credit to any parent who feels like this is unacceptable. If they feel that way, then for goodness sakes dont do it. It is sad to me that there are hundreds of ideas for positive reinforcement, reaching childrens hearts through stories and fun Creative Correction ideas in my book, but Im being written off as a whacked-out, child star/child abuser because of one example.
I write in the books introduction, You love your children, and I love mine. So lets give each other room to try new things, learn from our failures, and find what works best for each of our kids. Im not trying to impose my ideas on anyone. Im simply trying to offer ideas to parents who feel like they have run out of ideas.
Anyway, thank you for your support and prayers this past week. I would be eternally grateful if you would continue to lift me up with requests for wisdom, grace, discernment, favor and love. "
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I have Lisa's book and have learned many wonderful ideas that have helped me tremendously. For the media to pick up on one suggestion out of hundreds and rake her over the coals for it is ridiculous, but typical.
Laura
"I dont really know what to think about all of this attention. On one hand, I dont want to back down from my position that there are times when parenting calls for tough love.
Im all for talking and reasoning with children but I think any parent will tell you that words alone are not always effective. There are times when concrete consequences can teach abstract concepts and a million wise words or time-outs wont do a thing.
Im not referring to silly just being kids kinds of issues. Im talking about the fact that there are some lessons in life that are not worth leaving up to chance, or up to my children to figure out on their own. Training them for life is my responsibility and privilege.
I dont think that I am being far-fetched to believe that if I can teach my child the gravity of lying with the sting of a drop of hot sauce then I could conceivably spare them the exponential pain of divorce, because in marriage trustworthiness is critical.
Is it any wonder todays generation has very little respect for authority? Moms and dads are afraid to parent with authority and are praised for being friends with their children. Hey, I plan on being friends with my kids; but for right now, if I have to choose between one and the other, then I will choose parent. There is plenty of time for friendship later. I dont want to visit my friend in jail because a police officer was left to teach my child about respect for authority.
I would rather cause my child a small amount of pain from my hand of love if it could spare them a much greater amount of pain later on in life. Hebrews 12:11 says, No discipline is enjoyable while it is happeningit is painful! But afterward there will be a quiet harvest of right living for those who are trained in this way.
On the other hand, Im not saying that parents should use hot sauce. I give credit to any parent who feels like this is unacceptable. If they feel that way, then for goodness sakes dont do it. It is sad to me that there are hundreds of ideas for positive reinforcement, reaching childrens hearts through stories and fun Creative Correction ideas in my book, but Im being written off as a whacked-out, child star/child abuser because of one example.
I write in the books introduction, You love your children, and I love mine. So lets give each other room to try new things, learn from our failures, and find what works best for each of our kids. Im not trying to impose my ideas on anyone. Im simply trying to offer ideas to parents who feel like they have run out of ideas.
Anyway, thank you for your support and prayers this past week. I would be eternally grateful if you would continue to lift me up with requests for wisdom, grace, discernment, favor and love. "
***
I have Lisa's book and have learned many wonderful ideas that have helped me tremendously. For the media to pick up on one suggestion out of hundreds and rake her over the coals for it is ridiculous, but typical.
Laura
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