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i've been homeschooling my ds for about 2 weeks now. Already I'm seeing a difference. I really thought he had dyslexia, his writing was horrible. That is, he could write if copying from text, but when asked to write something, he didn't have a clue where to begin. Literally! He'd put 2 and 3 words together and come up with all sorts of weird spellings. He consistently got sight words wrong, spelling 'you' as 'uoy' confusing this and with. spelled there as ther, etc.

Well, after just 2 weeks of working with him I'm already seeing a difference. We went back to the basics, I"m using books more for a 1-2 grade level. He can read them ok, but when I ask him to write something I read him from the book he just stumbles all over the place. Well, I figured out why--he's been "over phoniced". Any time a kids has any type of reading problem they crank up the phonics until the kid literally can't see the forest for the trees. All those rules, etc., if I tried to apply them I couldn't read, either! He was trying to sound out sight words, which, by definition, shouldn't be sounded out, just recognized. I've been working with him, drilling simple sight words and other simple words. Forget all the rules about magic e, ing brothers, etc. Its all about practice and familiarity. Well, he's making progress! Today he actually wrote a whole paragraph correctly, spelling all the words correctly. He's not running words together or making up weird spellings. Its because they were trying to correct something that didn't exist. He didn't need all those rules, he just needed practice and drill on the basics. Sad, but school was interferring with learning!

I still intend to have him tested for dyslexia, there may be something there. We're scheduled for testing next January, which is the first available. Maybe its best to wait awhile, anyways, to give me a chance to work with him. Otherwise, we're just testing what the school has done, not what he's capable of doing. I realize I'm coming across somewhat anti-school, but if I was so pro-school I would not have taken him out. They had him 5 years and that's the best they could do, I've had him two weeks and we're showing progress. Also, the social pressures are gone--other kids were picking on him, he was made a target by going to his special ed classes. Thinking back, I would never again put a child in special ed in the public school system. It marks him, both with the teachers and other students. At best I would obtain supplemental help outside the school, even it its at my own expense. I hope to have ds go back to public school at some point in the future, but not for this year at least. Let him get a firm foundation in the basic skills before he's thrown back into that system. We'll take it one step at a time!
 
fromscratchmom said:
I had that problem as a child and my first son who used to go to public school had that problem. Homeschooling may not be a cure all, but it does tend to help children become or remain lovers of learning.

I rarely mention the morning start time as an issue where homeschooling gives an advantage over institutional schools, but I believe that it does. My mom has always claimed that the public schools ought to not start before 9am, even for the highschools. She sights her own public school experiences when her school district went to half days for a year because of over-crowding and says that it was the best year of her whole school career. She was healthier and happier and did better in school, going to the afternoon sessions. I love it that I don't have to wake my kids up before 7:30 and if one of them seems to be fighting off a cold or flu or something, I let that one sleep in until he naturally wakes up. This has been so incredibly beneficial to my relationship with my son since I took him out of the public schools, that I can't begin to put into words just how great it is.

As for having a difficult time with another child. I'm sure that must be hurting her and also hurting you as a parent to see her go through it. Once again homeschooling is not a cure all, but I've found that the small group interactions that my kids participate in are generally far superior to the public school atmostphere for having a positive and beneficial social life. And I love the pro-homeschooling stories you can see in homeschooling magazines and email lists that give all the reasoning behind the belief that many homeschoolers have that their kids are better off on the socialization issue.

As pro-homeschooling as I like to be, I'd encourage you to limit how much weight you give to this as a factor. Some kids want homeschooling and some want public schooling and many want both, just at different times in their lives depending on what is going on at school and at home (and their personalities etc.). You may find that once you start homeschooling her that she sometimes asks to go back to public school. You just never know. Of my three kids, 2 of them are pretty much always happy that they are homeschooled and 1 of them goes back and forth. She has never been to public school and has a very romanticized view of it from seeing it on television and knowing that a couple of her friends go there. But occasionally one of her friends will say something negative and then she is temporarily glad that she doesn't have to go.

Hope this helps. All the best to you in working through it and making a decision!

I agree with so many of your points here! My kids no longer ask about going to school (they just don't want to do school at all some days! :lmao: ) However DD is somewhat concerned about highschool. She thinks she might want to go but is not too sure. Since she is only 10, we have a bit of time before we make a decision there. In the past though DD did desperately want to return to ps. The decision we made was actually to let her try it. I was tired of fighting and didn't feel it would be the best for her to be at home when she was convinced that something else was better. By the end of the first week, she was asking to not go anymore. I made her stick it out for another week and a half but after I went to the parent teacher meeting decided things were not going to improve academically and she herself had already decided that the opportunity to be around the other kids every day was not worth not learning anything. While she was in school, I had DS on a school schedule--mainly in regard to outside time. After 20 min I would call him inside and tell him recess was over. Boy, did he hate that!! Cured him in about three days! :rotfl:

I am always so sad when I hear about kids having a hard time with other kids at school. I don't get the whole they have to deal with real life argument. Yes, I know that not everyone else they will meet in life will be nice, honest and pleasant, but at what other time in our lives are we stuck in a situation, feeling powerless and being treated like crap with no way to get away. Seriously it sounds like an abusive relationship and we would all tell anyone in that sort of situation to GET OUT NOW! And yet, we advocate children just learn to deal with it. That makes no sense to me. :sad2: (Not saying btw loribell that that is your attitude, but I have heard that from so many people. Particularly those who are very against homeschooling.)

One of our favorite things to do for the first week or so that ps is in session is to be sitting at the breakfast table when the bus goes by. DD and I always joke, "Oh no! We missed the bus." When she was in K and went to school that was a major stress in her life. It is awfully nice to just wake up when it is the right time for them and have a peaceful morning. I honestly tell my friends whose kids go to school that I don't know how they do it!
 
vhoffman said:
i've been homeschooling my ds for about 2 weeks now. Already I'm seeing a difference. I really thought he had dyslexia, his writing was horrible. That is, he could write if copying from text, but when asked to write something, he didn't have a clue where to begin.
He can read them ok, but when I ask him to write something I read him from the book he just stumbles all over the place.
...sounds like you're realy going to help your child,good for you! it's ok to be anti school,if that's where you're coming from!
BTW,have you ever heard of a condition called Dysgraphia? try googling it, it has more to do with writing than reading as an issue....
 
vhoffman said:
Also, the social pressures are gone--other kids were picking on him, he was made a target by going to his special ed classes. Thinking back, I would never again put a child in special ed in the public school system. It marks him, both with the teachers and other students. At best I would obtain supplemental help outside the school, even it its at my own expense.

This is so true. I remember it from my own school days. The children who went to special ed were always singled out somehow and it made it really tough on them, socially speaking. The label is there for the children and teachers to see and it's just detrimental to the child's self esteem :guilty:
 

fromscratchmom and disneymom3,

Thank you so much for your kind words. I was in tears last night as she was finally telling me why she doesn't like school. I totally agree that it is a situation she needs to get out of, I'm just not sure that homeschooling is something I can do. She was telling me ways her teacher has told them to do things to figure certain math problems out and I was just amazed. It wasn't something I would have ever thought of telling her.

Her teacher is a good family friend and their first nine weeks is over with on Tuesday. Parent - teacher conferences are Wednesday so I will talk to her about what is going on and we will then make our decision about what to do from this point on.

Thanks again for the words of support,
Lori
 
Loribell, I was very apprehensive at first about whether or not I could do it, as well. In fact, I continue to feel apprehensive at least once or twice a week but now I only feel that way about the distant future and can easily push it aside and remind myself that I'll deal with the future in the future. I have been truly amazed at how much easier it is than I thought it would be. If you decide to try it, or even if you just continue to consider it, check into any opportunities that come your way to see curriculum fairs. There are so many possibilities that it can be overwhelming, but it is also very imformative and you will be able to find a style of curriculum that you would be able to teach; I'm sure of it. They even make curriculums that are completely scripted out for those of us who might have the most trouble knowing what to say to explain something well. I used Abeka to teach my older daughter how to read and it offered quite a bit of scripting and then I tried alpha-phonics with my younger daughter. I think Alpha-phonics should have worked with her and her leaning style and I was comfortable teaching it, but my younger daughter remembered her older sisters books and wanted to use the same ones. So we have gotten them out and are using them now. I just had to do that regular mom thing--reading my child and weighing out the situation. And in that case I decided that me being flexible and switching curriculums would be for the best. I hope that you can find the confidence to try it, because I know that you will do just great! No one knows your child like you do and no one else loves her as much as you do.
 
We'll be at WDW December 13th thru the 19th. My kids will be 6, 9 & 15. (I've got 2 girls and a boy.) Any other homeschooling dissers going during that time? I guess I've got our week pretty much mapped out, because we bought the dining plan and needed to make ADRs. But I'd love to know if any of y'all will be there at the same time anyway.

We'll be staying in a family suite at the All-Star Music Resort. And hopefully we'll be joined by a family friend, for one day, on Saturday the 16th. My DS, age 15 is hoping and planning to do to Disney Quest on Friday the 15th, although the rest of us will be at MGM early in the day and at Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party in the evening.

Just want to put this out there. Hope to hear from some of y'all! :cool1:
 
fromscratchmom,
We will be arriving on the 16th and staying through the 29th. Unfortunately we will be at Universal until the 19th. We are going to MVMCP that night and checking in to VWL that afternoon before attending the party. Looks like we will just miss you.

Lori
 
Ah, that's too bad. But at least we'll both get our great Disney vacations. You'll have to fill us in, after you're trip on how Universal was. We aren't planning on going to Universal at all, or anywhere else off-property. But I think if we can manage to plan more FL trips in future years, we'll visit SeaWorld at least once and hopefully Universal too. :joker:
 
Loribell--I also wanted to say that the curriculum teacher manuals will really guide you in how to teach. The teacher guide for Making Math Meaningful for instance literally says, "Say to your child....blah blah blah." There is also a curriculum called Switched on Schoolhouse and while this topic can meet with some controversy, a few pages back there was a good discussion of virtual schools. Basically they are a public school, all the materials are provided to you and your child does a lot of their work online. They also provide a supervising teacher to help you out and make sure things are going well. If you are not ready for full on homeschooling that may be a good option to look into.
 
Loribell- This is a very good website on homeschooling in Oklahoma http://www.oklahomahomeschooling.org/

The woman who started the website was actually featured in The Old Schoolhouse Magazine (an excellent homeschooling magazine).HTH

Also, I must say that unfortunately the teacher will most likely not be able to help in your situation. They are very limited in what they can do with regards to bullies. My daughter went through the same thing in third grade. That was the year we pulled her out. Actually, it is sad to say, but the more the teacher tried to intervene the more my daughter was singled out by the bullies. "She's a baby, she goes to the teacher." or "Watch what you say or she'll go tell her mommy" My daughter would actually come home upset with me for trying to help. She said the teacher and I were making it worse for her.

I won't lie to you, homeschooling is tough the first year. You will second guess yourself, your daughter will say she wants to go back, and you will have many days when you will just want to give up. But, by the second year you will feel much more comfortable. Your daughter will still ask to go back, but not nearly as often. She will have made new friends, homeschooling friends, friends who either have been in the same boat as she, or have never been to public school and haven't "learned" how to be a bully. And most likely she will be in more things now than she ever was when she was in school. We live in a very small town, and just some of the homeschool offerings(just during the day) in this area are; ice skating, roller skating, science classes(at state park), karate, art, music, and many organized field trips through the local homeschool groups.

Just something to think about. Good luck to you!
 
fromscratchmom said:
We'll be staying in a family suite at the All-Star Music Resort.

Could you post and let me know how you liked the family suite when you return? We are going in April and have been debating between getting the suite at AsMu or a standard at POP. Thanks!!
 
Nice to know lots of other homeschool families love WDW as much as we do! We'll be there in January! Can't wait! It's time for us to get some cool Epcot related books out of the library again- and have the dk's start hoarding their bits of money and planning out their purchases.....
 
fromscratchmom,

We'll be there 12/8 through 12/16. My kids are are 6, 6, and 4. We're SO looking forward to it. We've been studying all the EPCOT countries and counting down the days!
 
Poohbear77 said:
Could you post and let me know how you liked the family suite when you return? We are going in April and have been debating between getting the suite at AsMu or a standard at POP. Thanks!!

I know you didn't ask me ;) BUT...here's my opinion on the suites. We LOVE ASMovies. The theme is great. But being a family of 5 we have to get two connecting rooms. Then they made the suites...well...we have not stayed in a suite (but we have been in one) BUT...our opinion on the suite is this...first...we are the type of family that doesn't spend a lot of time hanging out in our room. YES the room is nice and important and you need space etc but we don't just watch movie after movie or spend an afternoon playing games in our room. Some people do...my opinion may not really "count" so much for them.

Anyhow...I would always pick the two connecting rooms over the one suite. It's the same space (Disney just combined the two rooms) but having FOUR beds is great. The thought of sleeping on fold outs well...comfort is not the first thought to come to mind!! :) If you are going to use them as furniture every day, then there is the hassle of making them into beds again every night. To me, it just seemed to feel more spacious (even if it was not really) to have the rooms connecting.

So just for our family, having the two rooms without the microwave and even adding a fridge (which is only $10 a night...so you still save money even if you add one over the cost of a suite vs. two connecting rooms)...it's just way more comfortable and felt way more roomy.

Those were our observations. Of course, others swear by the suites!! :) It's all up to what your family is looking for. If it's having a microwave and day time seating areas...then the suite would probably fit the bill better. If it's looking for comfy sleeping space, more room (at least that's how it feels without a huge king bed taking up space), and you can live without the microwave (cause you can rent the fridge)...then I would say two connecting rooms ALL the way! Hope that helped! :)
 
Here is a link to a thread I started with lots of Disney related study ideas. There is also a link to a Disney site with even more related educational ideas. Hope this helps!!

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1145853

PS a lot of the ideas came from this thread...but being as it would be too hard to wade through this entire thread to find the ideas...I started it's own thread. Have fun on your trip!
 
Good info on the suites. I'm looking forward to it. Part of me thinks that we'd be better off with your suggestion, if we end up not using the room any during the middle of the day. But on the other hand, if my six year old is getting to tired. We might come back and spend time in the afternoons a few of the days, in which case I'll be very glad to have the suite. Also, we might end up really using the microwave, not sure about that yet.

I'll try to remember to post about it after my trip.
 
fromscratchmom said:
Good info on the suites. I'm looking forward to it. Part of me thinks that we'd be better off with your suggestion, if we end up not using the room any during the middle of the day. But on the other hand, if my six year old is getting to tired. We might come back and spend time in the afternoons a few of the days, in which case I'll be very glad to have the suite. Also, we might end up really using the microwave, not sure about that yet.

I'll try to remember to post about it after my trip.
No matter what you pick you will have OH SO MUCH fun! I honestly don't think you can go wrong as far as picking Disney anything! Disney is in a class of it's own! Have tons of fun and be sure to write up a trip report when you get back telling us all about the suite and all of the fun you have while there!
 
fromscratchmom said:
Ah, that's too bad. But at least we'll both get our great Disney vacations. You'll have to fill us in, after you're trip on how Universal was. We aren't planning on going to Universal at all, or anywhere else off-property. But I think if we can manage to plan more FL trips in future years, we'll visit SeaWorld at least once and hopefully Universal too. :joker:

We actually go to Universal on most of our trips. We now always stay onsite. I know it is expensive but having the front of the line access that the hotel key gives you is absolutely wonderful. If we can not stay onsite we skip Universal all together. It is amazing what all you can get done with those room keys.

So far we have only stayed at the Hard Rock hotel. They have an air about them, kinda cold, but it is how they intend to come across. It fits the environment. However, all three times we have stayed there we have had a problem of some sort and they do not come out of that mode. That is something they need to work on. When they have an upset guest they need to try to accomodate them and be friendlier and sympathic, not cold. Because of this we are going to stay at the Royal Pacific this time to see how it goes. I'll let you know when we get back.

As for the parks, we love them. DS and I love the big coasters at Islands of Adventure. We all love Universal studios, DD loves ET, the Nickoldeon show/ride & Shrek. I think the themeing at both parks is nice, US is themed a lot like MGM, a studio feel, IOA has amazing themeing to it. IT changes drastically from land to land. DD loves to eat at Burger Digs in the Jurassic Park section, they have an interactive dino area there.

Have fun on your trip,
Lori
 


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