Home School

eeyore0062,
That would be a LOT of fun!!!!!!!

We'll be at OKW. How do we find one another? The world is a big place! :)

ohiominnie :p
 
Ohiominnie,

I can't agree with you more!! The one thing that you said is something that bothers me everyday. Since my daughter has entered Kindergarten, the routine seems to be school, a little time outside now that the weather has warmed up, homework, ballet one night a week, dinner, bath, bedtime. What happened to storytime?? What happened to quality time?? It seems like since she started school, everything has become about academics. Sure, that is important - but at five?!

My DH is 100% in favor of HS. I am too. The only thing I am struggling with is that, right now, she enjoys school. I think she is going to be soooooo overwelmed in 1st grade when they are graded and everything HAS to get done in a set amount of time. She complains about the homework now. She is going to HATE the homework in 1st grade. So, here is my question. Do I let her attend 1st grade and find out for herself. I am 99% sure she will want to be HS after 1st grade (if she even makes it that far). Or, do I not even give her the choice and just HS her? Any advice anyone has I would love to here it.

Thanks so much to everyone for their great opinions.

Lisa
My email is lisarigg@mediaone.net
 
We're staying at the Polynesian May 11th - 16th! WooHoo!! It's actually just a mom trip, my DH has to work & I had found great airfare so we decided to attempt it alone. A friend of mine and her son are going to meet us down there so it will be a Mother's Day Mom's only trip to DisneyWorld. Should be interesting. :earsgirl:
 
No, I wouldn't homeschool. First I don't have the qualifications. I have alot of respect for teachers and the skill they've learned. Knowing something just isn't the same as being able to teach it. And even between my two kids, I can see different learning styles. I'm sure I couldn't do justice to them both without some training. My daughter I can teach - we think the same way. My son not. I thought I was going to have problems with him in school - I couldn't even teach him the alphabet! But, after 2 days in JK, he'd mastered it. Those teachers know things I don't.

I prefer to see home as a place for kids to relax and be themselves. I don't want to have it also be the place where they must be marshalled into an academic routine daily. Homework is enough. This saves me as an adult. Life has alot of stress. I work all day - but I relax at home. I sure wouldn't want to work at home in a situation where my parents, or my husband were my boss! I don't think I could ever really relax at home, or enjoy those family members the same way, under those circumstances. I can't help but feel it would be the same for my kids.

But I also wouldn't want them to loose out on their socialization skills. Parents aren't kids so we can't "teach" them all the socialization skills they need. They need to know how to react to other tots as well, without having a nervous breakdown. And tots don't behave like adults. If a kid scribbles on my piece of "important" work, I won't freak. If a kid scribbles on another kid's piece of "important" work, the other kid will shriek. Kids are kids - yours and other peoples. They need to know how to relate to each other on their own terms. Supervised - sure. But they definitley need to be around the other kids.

Secondly, on socialization. Afterschool activities are one thing. Daycare and school are another. The 30-60 minutes a week most kids spend with any particular "afterschool" group is just not sufficient to give them a real feeling of belonging to a group of peers. They are there under coaches' (and probably mommy or daddy's) eyes, participating in structured activity. No time for real socializing. At daycare and school, kids get to spend their days together, socialize, develop a sence of belonging. These settings include free play time of one sort or another for kids to really socialize and develop the relelvant bonds and skills - probably more free play time per day than the whole time allocated to any afterschool activity per week. They need a certain amount of time together to "be" together. We did have my 7 year old in one activity where that kind of bonding and belonging did start to develop. But that was a competitive gymnastics program, and the girls were spending 12 hrs a week together. It was just too much stress for her and we moved her to another less intensive 6 hour program. At that reduced level, the bonding isn't there anymore. It does require some real time together.

If I had a bunch of kids, I might feel differently about keeping them home to school. Quite sure I couldn't afford daycare for them all. And with enough of them, within a small enough age bracket, the socialization would take care of itself - kind of the way mother nature intended originally, I guess. Maybe I would go out and see if I could get a teaching certificate - if I could get accepted, it would only be one more year or university. And then do the homeschooling. But, only have 2, and 2 does not a gang 'o kids make.

Or not. Afterall, another part of education is learning how to deal with all kinds of people, competing with them, surviving with them, putting up with them - while still functionning yourself. My daughter's Gr1 teacher recently lamented the fact that there were a few behaviour problems in my daughter's class. Currently my daughter is "doing time" sitting beside one of these, and the teacher realizes how annoying this is for my daughter. I told her not to sweat it - as long as its temporary and my girl knows its not for ever, I have no problem with it. Afterall, someday she'll grow up and have to go to work and function with all kinds of annoying people...some fine examples sitting within spitting distance of me as I write....
 

The intention of my post was to simply ask if there are other DVCers out there who home-school. Since this post was moved from the DVC board to the Family board, non-DVCers who also home school have chimed in...and it has been GREAT hearing from all of you!!!!

I did NOT mean for this thread to become a debate between home-schoolers and traditional-schoolers, but some of mainey-mouses comments are quite disturbing and mis-guided and I just can not let them slip by without a response.



No, I wouldn't homeschool. First I don't have the qualifications. I have alot of respect for teachers and the skill they've learned. Knowing something just isn't the same as being able to teach it.

What special skills do teachers possess? The skill to keep thirty kids in control, most of whom would rather be in front of a television watching Pokemon or playing Playstation? The skill to identify which kids do not fit the mold of "how one is supposed to learn" and then ship them off to a special classroom? The skill to spend 6 or 7 hours in a classroom then assign 1-2 hours of homework and cover the same amount of material a home-schooler can master in just a couple of hours?

If our teachers skills are so great why is the united states so far down the list of industrialized nations in terms of school performance? Why are illiteracy rates increasing? Why are drop-out rates on the rise? Why is violence in schools such an ordinary event that we are no longer even suprised when we hear about it on television?

The skill to teach a child is in everyone. It simply takes getting excited about a topic and presenting it in an exciting and applicable way. There are hundreds of curriculums out there that help parents do this. And kids respond so much better in a one-on-one environment where learning is kept fun and relevant.

With regard to the actual subjects...you learned them once when you were in school...you can learn them again! How many english teachers can write a great novel? How many chemistry teachers are going to discover the next great chemical theory? How many biology teachers are going to perform surgery? The simple fact is that teachers are regular people who are imparting knowledge that is not really that difficult to master.

Now I will be the first to admit that not everyone is smart enough to home school. But if you have a computer in your house, can connect to the internet, can find the DIS board, and can write a post that sounds even halfway intelligent, then you can probably do it.



At daycare and school, kids get to spend their days together, socialize, develop a sence of belonging. These settings include free play time of one sort or another for kids to really socialize and develop the relelvant bonds and skills

Sounds like children of the corn. Let's just throw them all together into the stew and see what happens. Who cares that Johnny is now addicted to crack and that Bobby Jo is pregnant. Who cares if Wes takes a gun to school and shoots 15 kids.

I think it is time that parents started to CARE about their kids and the values their children posess rather than just sending them off and keeping their fingers crossed that everything will turn out ok.

And what matters anyway is the end result. How can you say that supervised social activities are going to make you less able to function in society? All surveys so far show Home School children have no difficulty fitting into society as they matriculate.




Afterall, another part of education is learning how to deal with all kinds of people, competing with them, surviving with them, putting up with them - while still functionning yourself.

But only if those people are the EXACT same age as you? Of course not. You must learn to interact with a whole range of ages and personalities.


Let me conclude by saying that I really am not trying to convince mainey-mouse to home school. I do NOT think it is for every parent. Nor is it for every child. But to categorically say it is bad. To say that it is always inferior to the education and socialization one gets in a public school is naive and close-minded. We have an educational crises in this country. And unless we can find a way to better educate and prepare our children, violence is going to continue to escalate and our productivity as a nation is going to continue to decline.

Here is to all the rebels........

;)
 
Thank You Mike!

Also.....I AM a teacher (certified to teach in PA and have done it, though briefly). My strongest message to those who want to homeschool is that teachers really don't know any more than any other educated adult...and if you don't feel well educated just go to the library and teach yourself. It isn't hard. Most of what I learned in college about teaching had to do with classroom management which isn't even necessary at home. Yes, some of my classes gave me new ways of looking at things that are taught, different ways to present them, etc.... but let me tell you, the moms and dads over on the Kaleidoscapes boards have ideas that are just as good that they are willing to share.

All that said, my thinking about education has changed a great deal over the past few years and I've discovered that traditional instruction really isn't even necessary most of the time. There's too much to it to explain here but there are some great books out there.....John Holt was an incredible mind in the field of education and wrote a great deal plus the magazine he started (Growing Without Schooling) is a wonderful resource, Nancy Wallace has written about her children's experiences growing and learning, and The Unschooling Handbook by Mary Griffith is a nice introduction.

I've said what I need to....and I'll hold my fingers from here on out. Those interested in discussion (not debate, as I don't have time or energy for it) or information are welcome to email me.
 
vwrose,
THANKS for the website. Of course there was TOO much to digest for one sitting, but I've got it bookmarked for the future.

I've already printed out bingo cards for my kids though. It was great because since they are different ages either one child is bored or the other is lost with the traditional bingo games. What I did was print out one bingo sheet with letters and the other with words. I'd hold up a letter/picture flashcard...my 6 yr old would have to find the right spot on her card by reading all the words, my 4 yr old only had to recognize the first letter and mark it off on his. They played over and over and over. I noticed my younger get faster and faster at recognizing his numbers. It was GREAT! of course, they just LOVED eating up their "markers" at the end of each round (marshmallows and skittles!)

THANKS for posting it. I'm sure it'll be a help to the other homeschoolers out there too!

ohiominnie :p
 
My SIL is a credentialed teacher and homeschools her two sons. She also teaches a spanish class for other home schoolers. I have learned a lot from her regarding it. I, however, have never been tempted to do it. I have 3 sons. All have done extremely well academically. I find that whether it is home school or public or private school, what matters most is the childs investment in it. They get out of it what they put into it. I have had teachers that were outstanding and others who weren't so great but it didn't impact the learning all that much. My youngest who is in 1st grade thinks he is home schooled. Learning can take place anywhere at any time. You just have to take advantage of the situation presented. I don't think either method is better or worse than the other, just different.
 
When will you be at the World again? We will be hanging around the resort on May 17, MGM the morning of the 18th, eating at Garden Grille around 4:15, and then going to MK for Eticket night--will probably head over there around 6:15ish. Epcot the morning of the 19th, eating at Boma at 6 that night, and then to the Adventurer's Club around 8:30, pick up DD at Neverland Club around 11:30, AK the morning of the 20th, MGM in the Afternoon, then Cape May for dinner, EE morning at MK the morning of the 21st, then possibly Blizzard Beach in the afternoon, dinner at Le Cellier, eat character breakfast at 1900 Park Faire at 10 on the 22nd then off to the airport.

Will you be in any of these places around the same time? If so, let me know, so we can arrange a meeting . Sounds like fun!!!

HaPpY VaCaTioN!!!

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Just wanted to say thanks for this thread. My DH and I just moved to Orlando, and I am currently homeschooling our 3 kids, ages 11.75, 9, and almost 4. We have truely enjoyed homeschooling them, although my oldest wants to go to Junior High next year..YIKES! The kids have been in public school before this year, so I have experiance on both fronts. Love to talk more with anyone that is coming to this area, as my kids love meeting other kids and especially homeschooled kids!
Reply directly to me if you would, as I am using my DH log in name.

Lisa M.
momto3@kjsl.com
 
Hi All

We are in our 3rd year of homeschooling my dd's are 8 and 12 and my DS is 3. We took our first Disney trip this past March and are at this very time planning next March's vacation to Disney. :) :D Wont get on the social issue but will agree that I find less and less people that ask about the social aspect and more and more that want to know how to get started.
 
We are not DVC members but, we will be HS our son starting this fall.

Our son is just ending 5th grade and will NOT be attending our local MS. We would not put him through that for the life of us!

So, we will be giving HS a try. We have the option of private school(s) but, he would like to try HS. So, off on our adventure!

Thankfully, my sister has been HS for years so, I have a wealth of information available to me.

Our daughter will be remaining at our local elementary school for the time being. We are fortunate to have a very good elementary school and she, currently, would like to stay there.

Thank you all for the website links, I, too, have bookmarked them for future reference. Keep them coming...
 
I have a six year old boy who is in Kindergarten this year at a public school. I have given serious thought to homeschooling him, but have decided against it. He's an only child and very social. He absolutely loves being with other children. The first thing out of his mouth everyday, after school, is "who can I play with." At the moment, he's loving school, but that could change next year with the increased workload. I know that homeschoolers get together a lot, but I really don't think that would be enough for him. We have a fairly good elementary school here and I want to give it a try. We're Air Force and we'll move again next year, probably back East. If the school system isn't up to par, I'll be hitting the books with him.

My biggest gripe with the school is that he was reading at the beginning of Kindergarten. They have no program for early readers. The class is just now at the "cat is black" stage. He's also very good at math, doing double digit adding and subtracting, but they aren't even touching that stuff. So, truth be told, he's not really being challenged. I work with him at home. We're almost through the Hooked on Phonics box, and I buy him Math worksheet books. I know in my hearts of hearts he'd make more progress at home, but I'm afraid he'd miss his friends something terrible.

I used to be a docent at a museum in Ohio, and the best groups we got were the homeschoolers and Catholic schools. We're not Catholic, but when we get back East, I'll probably be looking into that too.

Homeschooling would sure make vacations easier. As DVC members we could really take advantage of the lower points in the off season, not to mention the smaller crowds.

My two cents
 
This is too cool! Other Disney lovers that homeschool too! I am the mom of 3 boys - ages 11, 9 and 4. My oldest two have always been homeschooled (I've been homeschooling for 6 years! Yikes!). I plan on beginning my 3rd son this September for Kindergarten.

First of all, I am not an "intelligent" person. Yes, I got great grades in school, but that was a LONG time ago. All that knowledge is now lost!!! I always say, if I can homeschool then anyone can!! I learn so much from teaching my kids - even in the early elementary years I was learning!! My DH would come home from work and I would excitedly tell him what I learned that day and he would roll his eyes and say "you didn't know that??" I've learned to keep my mouth shut now. But it just goes to show that ANYONE can teach their kids as long as you are sitting down with them and reading and learning right at their side. That's what makes it so great - it's wonderful for family bonding. And in case you're wondering - my sons test very very well at the end of each school year despite their "dumb" mom! LOL! My 2 oldest sons are complete opposites - if they were in school, they would have absolutely nothing to do with each other - they'd each have their own set of friends. But with homeschooling, they have become their own best friends and have learned to give and take with each other in an otherwise "difficult relationship".

To Steph - my 9 year old is like yours - very very social. Everyday he asks who can I have over today? Fortunately, we have a boy right next door that comes over to play a couple of times a week (when he doesn't have too much homework!!) Plus my son has a few homeschooled children that we will have over in our home or he will visit them. Actually, in school, they do not have much time to socialize - they get in trouble for talking & giggling in class! Think about it - all they get is lunch and recess to "socialize". My son being homeschooled probably socializes with friends more than traditional schooled children because they are so busy with homework after school and then it is suppertime, then they are getting ready for bed early. I know - I have friends with kids in school and it is almost impossible to arrange play dates with them!

Kimberly
 
just out of curiosity, what happens if I start homeschooling in one state and move to another...could I have problems?

Thanks!
 
Hey all!
Good to hear from more of you!!!

threeboysmom, I know what you mean about learning new things with your kids. Until recently I wasn't really that sure who won the Revolutionary War!! :) Well, I'm SURE I learned it in school, but I didn't remember. Seeing as I can buy some tea bags for just a couple of bucks, that must mean WE won! :)

Robin...I'd check out www.hslda.com I believe they have information on all the requirements for each state. Usually it's just a notification to homeschool (at the beginning of the school year, or presumably, when you move into the district) and some sort of assessment at the end, wether it be a standardized test or statement of where your child is academically.

Hope this helps!

Karen
 
I homeschool as well.
I have 2 children and have homeschooled both.

My one daughter is 20. I homeschooled her through high school.
My other daughter is 11 and will be entering 6th grade this year. I have homeschooled her from birth.

Both kids were great students and are better adjusted socially than most people I know.
My parents were very upset at first when we chose to homeschool, because of socialization, NOW they are so happy we did. They have seen the benefits and wish the rest of my family would homeschool also.

I would encourage any parent to homeschool. If you can parent, you CAN homeschool. No one knows your children better than you.
 
Hi Robin,

To answer your question, while homeschooling, I moved from one state to another with no problems at all. As long as you notify the school district in your new state about your intention to homeschool, you won't have a problem. It is perfectly legal in all 50 states. :) Some states I don't think even require a letter of intention. But check that out at the website listed in the previous post.

Kimberly
 
Thanks for the quick answers guys, one last question...I've only gotten the site to come up once, (hsdla.com) I'm not sure if it's AOL or their server, but I'll keep trying. When I did get it to come up it said that our legislation does not require testing. Does this mean that if I screw up, or have been screwing up for years, that it would go unchecked the whole time? I only say this because I'm one of those terrified that I would be doing more harm than good, and I think I would want my son tested at least from grade to grade if not more. Can someone fill me in on that?

Thanks so much...sorry if I sound too negative, I'm really not trying to, just a bit nervous about a big decision! :D
 















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