Having second thoughts about staying on-site

we'll be there June 24th to July 6th. I was thinking about the AP too. What are the chances of an AP discount coming out? The AP costs approx 200 more than the 7 day hopper so if AP discounts come out I could indeed make good savings. Do the AP discounts come out every year?
It's worth remembering that you'd only need ONE AP to be eligable for the AP discount rate. If the 7 day hopper tickets are enough for your ticket needs you wouldn't need to get everyone annual passes.

Bev said
I don't understand why people are suggesting the OP look at Deluxe, Wilderness Cabins, or DVC propertys - she stated quite clearly she can only afford nights at All-Stars and POR - there is no way you can take that budget and make it pay for Deluxe accomodation and I think it's unrealistic to suggest that. Even renting DVC points wouldn't really be feasible - you could only afford a studio and they are tiny (they have a nice kitchennette and a big bathroom, but the actual bedroom is tiny).
While I agree with your comments about the delux units, I don't agree as far as the cabins or the DVC units go. The cabins may cost an extra $70-100 a night more, but even so if one is prepared to eat breakfast in the room (and as the units have kitchens and dining areas that isn't hard to do) it's easy to save $50 a day in breakfast alone. Buying water,juice sodas at the supermarket and taking just 2 each per day (10 drinks) to the parks saves you $20 per day. If you like a couple of beers or a bottle of wine in the evening, buying them in the supermarket and chilling them in the fridge saves you $10+ on a bottle of wine, $2 per beer. Having just one meal per week as a frozen pizza or pasta from the supermarket can save another $100. So if you total all of those individual componants up it comes to between $90-100 a day difference. I'll accept that it may not be everyone's preference to toast some bread or bagels every morning instead of going to a restaurant and having it done for you, but it's a question of priorities, if room size is a major priority and you are prepared to give up some other lesser priorities then financially the difference between the TOTAL cost of the exercise (as opposed to just looking at room costs) is really not that different.

A one bedroom DVC unit is also economically viable in the context of a split stay. For a booking of 5 nights, check in on a Sunday, check out on the Friday the points cost at OKW is 22 points per night. Points are renting at $10 per point so the room cost of $220 per night. As there is no tax to pay on renting points, as there is for renting a room. (this is the same as paying $195 for a room where there is 11% sales tax to add on). The one bedroom DVC units also have full kitchen facilities (like the cabins) so you can save a lot of money on food costs that would otherwise be impossible to avoid and you also have your own washer dryer (with a 15 month old that may be a huge help).

As I have said, it is very much a question of priorities and that's up to the individual to decide on their priorities. But in the case of the OP, using her dates, budget constraints here is a plan that fits most/all of her needs. I'll accept that it requires some moving about that may not be suitable, but that again is a priority call. Unfortunately coming in on a Friday and leaving on a Wednesday does make it a little less efficient in using DVC points as it means one extra hotel option. IMHO coming in on a Saturday this is more practical, because coming from Europe means your flight usually lands late afternoon, early evening US time. Most people just clear the airport, get something to eat, find hotel and go to sleep. You can easily then check out next day, go to WDW and check into your DVC unit. Anyway

Arrive Friday June 24th check into either a 3.5* hotel in WDW area at $45 per night or a 3.5* condo unit (WDW area) at $120 a night (both available on http://www.hotwire.com for two nights. Go to Universal for 1st full day, Check out June 26th ( you could as little princess suggest look at staying at a USF hotel for these days and use the FOTL access on the the 25th and 26th for IOA and USF, it increases your budget, but the FOTL is a huge bonus and they are excellent hotels).

Rent DVC points for 5 night stay at OKW in 1 bedroom DVC unit (with full kitchen) cost $220 per night (same as hotel room at $195 due to tax not being paid) Check out of DVC unit on Friday July 1st

Check into FW Cabin (or a moderate) for 4 night stay, check out on July 5th.

With the OP's family size I'd go for the cabins, because I'd want to check out one of the options I'm DEFINATELY going to need in the future. Everyone knows what a regular hotel room offers, the cabins are something unusual and IMHO only by staying in one for a short trip will you know if they are a viable option for a longer stay in the future.

IMHO that plan should be on or below budget when you factor in savings on food and drink. Might be a bit too much hassle for some, but that is a feasable and economic option and therefore is worth bring to the OP's attention as something for her to decide upon. It's even more feasable if they'd been arriving on a Saturday or Sunday, but that information was only available after I'd originally suggested a DVC split.

When considering the "home away from home" resorts it's necessary, IMHO, to look at the TOTAL cost, not just the "headline" or simple room cost. It can very easily be much closer than expected if one is prepared to make use of the extra facilities the higher room charge affords you. If by paying an extra $100 a night for a room gives you the option to save $100 a day on food costs , then the financial side of it is even. It's just a question of whether toasting a few bagels, pouring out OJ from a carton and putting milk on the cereal in the morning is a cost you are prepared to pay in order to have a much larger accommodation, much better facilities and some privacy from/for your kids.
 
I guess we are cheap - but we never spend $50 on breakfast - well, maybe one or two character breakfasts a trip, but generally we have donuts or cereal in the room, if we eat out then maybe a danish and a coffee - and we carry cold drinks from the refridgerator in the room already, so no saving there.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to stay Deluxe, or DVC, but I just can't see $100 a day savings on food. We paid $95/night to stay at POFQ, $220 a night to stay in a cabin is more than doubling the room cost - and I don't think we could save $1400 (on our 2 week vacation) in food costs -but I accept that if a family of 5 eats a full sit down breakfast every day, and they are prepared to substitute that with an in the room breakfast, then perhaps they could be saving $100 on breakfast, but i suspect they will be hungry by lunchtime if they are used to the bigger breakfast.
 
Better on property than off. Off is such a hassle for transportation, if you take theres, and you will have to pay $8 per day to park, if you don't.

We have done both, and swear NEVER to stay off property again! Better close quarters on property than the hassle of off property.
 
I'll admit that I'm a on-site snob, too. The furthest I've stayed off-site was at the DTD resorts and believe me once was enough of that. ;) Can you cut your stay by one or two days and upgrade to a moderate for the entire time? The values are really tiny IMO. Another thought...have you considered renting a house? You are wanting to go for what...12 nights? I love Disney as much as the next person, but after 6 I'm tiring of the crowds and need some non-Disney time. And don't kid yourself...being on property THAT much you won't be at the parks all day every day. I don't know....you have three kids including a toddler...I think you guys could really use the extra room.

You can get a house with an enclosed pool and maybe even a jacuzzi. Everyone might have their own room and plenty of breathing space. I've seen these houses run $120/night or less within a few minutes of the Mouse - depending on time of year and # of rooms/amenities.

Everyone wants to stay on property, but you want your sanity too. If I were you, I would either cut my stay and upgrade to a Mod or think about renting a house. Whatever you do, have fun!!!
 

Allison,
Your trip reports are hilarious. Took the links from your message there and nearly coughed up a lung laughing :rotfl2: Wow, you have a great way with words. :sunny: And thanks for the advice. Yep, that's the thing, the villas outside are so tempting - I want it *all* !

Vernon,
I'm intrigued by the DVC rental idea. I have a few questions which I hope you or anyone else reading won't mind me asking. I see there is a specific DVC board so these questions might not be appropriate here but I feel safe here now :goodvibes ....... can anybody rent points from any DVC member? In other words do Disney give it their blessing or is there an element of backstreet dealing involved? lol, forgive me, but this is all so new to me. How would I know the deal was straight? What if I got to WDW and staff say "Deb *WHO*? you think *you* have a room at Boardwalk Villas. Bwahahaha. Get back to Ireland with ya" :scared1: If renting DVC points makes it so much easier to stay at a bigger, better resort, why isn't everyone doing it? Just some random questions to add to the quagmire of dilemmas I face myself challenged with! Any info much appreciated. :)
 
Just me but I will never stay off-site when vacationing at Disney. It just won't happen. I mean I would rather not go then stay off-site - honestly.
 
DebIreland said:
Allison, Your trip reports are hilarious. Took the links from your message there and nearly coughed up a lung laughing :rotfl2: Wow, you have a great way with words. :sunny: And thanks for the advice. Yep, that's the thing, the villas outside are so tempting - I want it *all* !

THANK YOU! You are so sweet...now that you've read mine, I expect one back from you when you return. ;)

DebIreland said:
Vernon,
I'm intrigued by the DVC rental idea. I have a few questions which I hope you or anyone else reading won't mind me asking. I see there is a specific DVC board so these questions might not be appropriate here but I feel safe here now :goodvibes ....... can anybody rent points from any DVC member? In other words do Disney give it their blessing or is there an element of backstreet dealing involved? lol, forgive me, but this is all so new to me. How would I know the deal was straight? What if I got to WDW and staff say "Deb *WHO*? you think *you* have a room at Boardwalk Villas. Bwahahaha. Get back to Ireland with ya" :scared1: If renting DVC points makes it so much easier to stay at a bigger, better resort, why isn't everyone doing it? Just some random questions to add to the quagmire of dilemmas I face myself challenged with! Any info much appreciated. :)

Can I jump in here to answer? When I started looking up renting points, I wondered why everyone wasn't doing it too. Frankly it's not that well-known but also it's not always cheaper. Sometimes it's cheaper to get two adjoining rooms over a two bedroom.

I would go to the DVC Points Calculator and put in your dates. Take into account that weekends are usually twice as much point-wise (if not triple), so that will really skew your results. I know some DVC'rs move out for the weekend so they don't have to use so many points. Oh and if it hasn't been mentioned before, points go for around $10 each.

If you decide to rent, it's not like buying drugs ;) ...go on over to the Rent/Trade Board and you'll see how many people are doing it! Do use normal precaution and common sense, but I've rented once with no issues and plan on renting again this October from someone else!

PM if you have any questions!!!
 
I didn't read all of the responses so I apologize if I repeat something already said...
Now, I thiink that you may be our exact family (almost same ages). We have done All-Stars and CSR (trwice) with 5 (one being an infant). It's a little tight, but having the extra $ makes it all fine! Book the AS and POFQ and enjoy the closeness with your family. I hate offsite - no magic, just shuttles!
 
Thanks PrinceJohn,

Did you find it awkward with the youngest? In terms of bottles and general meals? Obviously we'll feed her, :) but going out to eat won't be as convenient as having cooking facilities. How much did that affect your stay, if at all? (By the way, she's already moving away from the bottle so could well be past it by 15 months and if not, it'll be regular milk as opposed to formula, so that's not so bad). Thanks.
 
Glenda is right. You won't be in the room much at all, and the atmosphere of Disney 24hrs. a day, will more than compensate for any inconvenience. Onsight is great, you eat, sleep and live Disney.
 
Nobody loves being on-site more than I. But, have you thougt about staying off-site for your time at Universal? I would think that you could save a fair amount of money by staying in a less expensive resort, off-site, closer to US for the 2-3 days that you aren't actually using WDW. You could do US, chill at the pool, maybe do SeaWorld. Then, for about $50, take a towncar over to WDW and check in there for the end of your vacation. I would then go with either a deluxe since it has two queen beds and a day bed or a moderate, maybe POR, in AB that has the trundle bed and room for a portacrib.

As far as renting from DVC owners...a lot of people do it and have very good experiences. Usually what happens is that someone isn't going to use their points for that year. THen we lose them if we don't use them or bank them into the next year. So, in order to help defray the cost of owning the points, members will rent them out at about $10 per point. I have never done it myself. I think it is a huge leap of faith to give someone you don't know that kind of power over my vacation. But I know a lot of people have been fortunate. But be aware...there are some that have not had good experiences doing this. A small percentage but it still happens.
 
can anybody rent points from any DVC member, In other words do Disney give it their blessing or is there an element of backstreet dealing involved?
Yes anyone can rent. Disney is aware that owners do from time to time have more points than they need and accept bookings made in names other than the owner whose points are being used (obviously the owner needs to make the booking). There are rules from Disney about the DVC being used as a business by someone, but it would be the owner that got into trouble if they were using their membership to make money, as opposed to the renter.
How would I know the deal was straight?
There are a number of ways to "protect" yourself. I know a lot of the american transactions go through a third party so that the money held by that thrird party until the deal goes through. I'm not sure how that would work with someone outside of the USA, I don't see why it should be a problem. You should also not send any money out until you've seen a copy of the reservation, with your name on it, your dates and details. It would also have the owners mailing address, so you can check that the address you're sending things to, is the same address that Disney has on file.
If renting DVC points makes it so much easier to stay at a bigger, better resort, why isn't everyone doing it?
Like you a lot of people are a little leery of entering into a private agreement, also as vettechick says, it's not that well known and the rentee has to do a little research to work out what is the cheapest stay. Unlike us European/Brits most Americans get very little vacation time and don't have the flexibility to make the most of the DVC system (cheaper weekdays) as they will want to stay over a weekend. In your case, with a little juggling, you can manage a 5 night stay on a DVC property on a number of start dates, so, obviously, you would want to pick checking in on a Sunday as it gives you the longest stay (5 nights) at the cheapest rate. Another reason is that a lot of "bargain hunters" have been able to get the AP rates and get discounted room rates direct from Disney. For those that can get by on a regular hotel room, this is a simpler route to go and any DVC savings is relatively small. For people looking for larger units however, DVC points can show some sizable savings. It is unusual for Disney to offer sizable discounts on it's larger DVC units, there aren't that many of these types of units (compared to hotel rooms) and the lack of knowledge as to what they offer make it difficult for the CRO sales staff to explain why these rooms are worth so much more than a regular hotel room.

In all my time on these boards (6+ years) I've never heard of a trade going sour, but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened, isn't possible , or that someone might try it in the future. In a way it's similar to renting a vacation home privately from the owner, it does require a leap of faith. Doing some research into the process, checking up on the person you plan to rent from , use common sense and take any precautions that are available to you will all decrease the size of that leap :earsboy:
 
For the span of time mentioned I can't imagine spending that amount of time in All-stars with 4 plus people...and one bathroom. I would choose to split my stay with the Universal piece falling into an offsite stay and the majority of my Disney stay in the other half...but in a moderate or better.

Staying offsite I never felt like I was losing any Disney magic but I sure felt like I was gaining some Orlando Magic since you need a car to get back and forth. In offsite stays we go everywhere!!! There is so much more to Orlando than just Disney/Universal/Seaworld.
 
We have a 3 yr old and baby, plus 16 and 12 yr olds. We've been going every year for 6 years and always stay onsite because it's so much more convenient with little ones. Do consider the rent boards. We are now DVC members and have rented our points with no problems and have been able to give families relative bargains. The cost for a stay at Old Key West will be the least exp. route because they are not connected to any of the parks (although neither are most of the resorts). Ironically, they usually have the largest rooms! There's a microwave and small fridge, and a toaster. There are groceries for sale at the resort, but we usually stop at SuperWalMart. If you avoid weekends, a one bedroom is around $220 a night, but a studio (like a hotel room-the room descriptions are on this site under DVC) is only $110 in the summer (if you pay $10/pt). It's a much nicer room than the All Stars (quiet, on the golf course, new pool) and mant time less expensive than the next tier (ie Port Orleans). With babies, we try to stay at Boardwalk or BeachClub because you can walk to Epcot and take a very short ferry to MGM (VERY nice when the babies fall asleep or need to go back to the resort for a break!) In the summer, a studio there is around $140/night if you rent from a member. To me, that is a bargain for the location, and talk about magic! You can step outside the resort and watch the fireworks from Epcot! Also, maybe Swan/Dolphin might have some decent rates.
 
...renting DVC points in Disney.


Also, If you plan on going to Universal for 2-3 days, I would start the trip in a Universal Resort for the FOTL access. It is a wonderful perk. We have stayed at all three Universal Resorts and enjoyed them all. The Royal Pacific is the least expensive and a beautiful resort.

Good Luck.
::yes::
 
TaurusSES_Sport said:
Well I wouldn’t recommend that all 5 of you stay in one room at the ASMo first of all. You should definitely do a deluxe. That way you have 2 queen beds and a day bed.


They probably can't swing a deluxe if they can't afford two rooms (as the OP stated)at All-Stars, though. :( But a deluxe would be nice!! :)

I say go for it. We stayed off-site ONCE, for only ONE night and it was the worst. You would need to rent a car or else be at the mercy of your hotel shuttle which won't run anywhere near like the Disney buses run. So that would add $ to your off-site savings, plus $ for parking. Personally, I would only stay off-site if it was FREE and even then I'd have 2nd thoughts. To us, the hotel is part of the Disney Experience. You're immersed 24/7 no matter where you are! If you are staying for that long, maybe you should consider buying one AP so if/when codes are released, you can get a room discount and maybe then be able to afford 2 connecting rooms. You can book 2 rooms now (if you can swing a 2nd deposit) then when codes come out apply them to your rooms and if they don't come out, you can just cancel one before 5 days of your trip. You won't need the actual AP until you check in so you have plenty of time to get it. Plus the AP can get you 10% off some meals and 50% off mini-golf (which my kids love and was really fun & inexpensive) as well as 10% off all purchases at World of Disney in DTD.

HTH

Elise
 
For us, we have only one baby. We still can't share the room with him though, because we don't want to go to bed at 8:00!
We stayed at a FWC, and really enjoyed that. With a baby, it was so nice to have the ability to cook breakfast, have good nutritious snacks to have and have a place where we could wind down while the baby sleeps. I'd have to agree with the past posters that if you take into consideration all of the money you'll save by fixing some meals at your cabin, it could even out financially. At the cabins, you still get the WDW magic. The evenings by the bonfire and the outdoor movies are really fun. It's not THAT much more $...

We are buying points for our next vacation, so that we can have a 2 bedroom (the parents are coming too for a built in babysitter deal). Again, we can have nutritious meals in our villa! Sharing a room just isn't a option for us right now. Maybe when the kids are bigger and we all go to bed around the same time. You should check out the villas too!
I'd vote to stay off site (DTD area?) if these ideas do not work instead of one room. Unless you won't be back to WDW for a long time! In that case, I'd have connecting value rooms! I highly suggest "adult time" on a vacation.
Good luck!
You'll have a great time on whichever option you choose! :cheer2:
 
No Contest
On Site the whole time!! I don't care if we're shoulder to shoulder!!! LOL!
You will be very disappointed if you go from On site to off site so if you are still considering a half and half option I would do off site first.
 
As you can see from my signature we have stayed at all levels of Disney Resorts as well as off property at a nice 2 bedroom deluxe condo. I can honestly say that the most fun we had was on our first trip at a value. Was it the "fanciest" place, no. But we had a blast and the difference in the amount of room at each place does not make that much of a difference. We spent most of our time in the parks on each trip, so we had the most fun on the trip to the ASMo because we had a lot more freed up cash for meals and souvenirs. I know everyone has their own taste, but in our experience you'll be fine at the values.
I must agree with the majority of others here who say on site all the way. Having done it both ways, the conveniences of on site far outweigh any savings and room that off site could offer.
 
I'M CURRENTLY CONSIDERING STAYING OFF SITE. If the discount codes don't come out soon, I will. I can't see paying $99 for a room at POP (which while very nice is still basically a motel) when I can get a room much cheaper on priceline for a real resort.

Yes, I like staying onsite, but for a short 3 day trip like I have planned now for the end of April-I will do what fits in my budget.
 


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