Any ideas on when the first mvmcp and osb lights will be for 2012? I'm trying to plan a trip for both f&w fest, which ends 11/11, and the osb and castle lights, which the 2012 dates have not been announced yet. Here are the prior year dates: 1st MVMCP: 2008 11/10 (2nd Tues) 2009 11/10 (2nd Tues) 2010 11/8 (2nd Mon) 2011 11/8 (2nd Tues) If they go according to that schedule, I'm thinking it would be 11/13 (2nd Tues of month). That seems kind of late though... I also looked up the past years first Osborne Lights dates: 2008 11/28 (last Fri) 2009 11/10 (2nd Tues) 2010 11/8 (2nd Mon) 2011 11/10 (2nd Thurs) So I'm wondering if it will be 11/8 (second Thurs)? Any other ideas? I tried posting on the Theme Parks Attractions and Strategies board, but I guess most disers over there aren't thinking 11 months ahead! Thanks!