Green chicken?

[Jangles]

I notice how chicked tastes fake and gross whenever I go back home to the US.. I just googled and read that the clorine rinse that almost all chicken gets in the US has been banned in the EU since 1997. Chicken though costs almost the same as steak here, but I am willing to pay more or eat less.

It was one of the big debates during Brexit. US food standards are so different.

 

[mrodgers]

I notice how chicked tastes fake and gross whenever I go back home to the US.. I just googled and read that the clorine rinse that almost all chicken gets in the US has been banned in the EU since 1997. Chicken though costs almost the same as steak here, but I am willing to pay more or eat less.

I'd like to know the context of your chicken is almost the same as steak. Steak is pretty freakin expensive around me. Steak dinner is a $50 dinner at home for the family, and that's junk thin cut so you can't cook it properly steak. More like $80-90 for a family if everyone wants a properly prepared steak.

 

[Minnesota!]

Reason 343105 I became a vegetarian. I just cannot support the meat industry as it stands - the cruelty these animals face breaks my heart.

Something has to change.

That would horrify me to find!

 

[TippyThomas]

I get all of my meat from local farms where I live. I can tell a huge difference if I buy some from our local store.

 

[ronandannette]

I just googled the chlorine thing - it is done in Canada in some instances but has nothing to do with trying to make the chicken “whiter”. It’s a simple disinfectant measure; a weak solution of chlorine and water used to rinse is the final stage of processing. It actually doesn’t sound too nefarious once explained; raw poultry can be a dangerous medium for bacteria.

Growing up on a farm that raised poultry for our own use, my parents would process 30 or 40 chickens at one time and would rest them in an ice bath (in our bathtub ) with a tiny amount of household bleach, to prevent bacterial growth during the hours it took to get them all into the freezer.

 

[mousefan73]

I'd like to know the context of your chicken is almost the same as steak. Steak is pretty freakin expensive around me. Steak dinner is a $50 dinner at home for the family, and that's junk thin cut so you can't cook it properly steak. More like $80-90 for a family if everyone wants a properly prepared steak.

I just checked one of our flyers. i’m going by the basic steak cut ( No sirloin, no prime) Rump cut which we do all the time on the grill. On sale for 14.99 a kilo. Chicken breast is 13.99. I just saw a different stores flyer they have chicken on sale for $9.00 a kilo which is a steal and now going to get some this week.

A few weeks ago I bought four chicken breasts and paid €20 wear depending on the sales I can get steak for the same price. But like I said not the best type of steak like a sirloin run. Sirloins about five dollars more Akeelah kilA few weeks ago I bought four chicken breasts and paid €20 wear depending on the sales I can get steak for the same price. But like I said not the best type of steak like a sirloin run. Sirloins about five dollars more. But I live in Germany what seems food prices are still relatively low compared to the US

 

[mousefan73]

I was just reading up on this chlorine thing, which is a pretty fascinating education on the meat industry. One of the main reasons why the EU is against it has really nothing to do with the fact that it’s a chemical being added to meet but the fact that doing a chlorine wash makes it easier for meat producers to skip other sanitary steps throughout the entire process. Basically they can pack as many chickens together in unsanitary conditions, Slack on meat processing and fix that problem with the chlorine wash. Basically you’re turning farming animals into a factory process where you optimize processes and costs.
The EU stresses maintaining quality and sanitary conditions throughout the entire process and not a quick fix at the end.

I was never the type that would focus my buying behavior on how the animals I would eventually eat would be treated. I always figured well they’re gonna die anyway so doesn’t matter. But the past few years I’ve change my opinion and where I personally put focus on my buying behavior is on how an animal is force fed/ or put in living conditions That is against how nature intended. I mean if a chicken needs four months to get to full weight naturally I’m gonna have an issue buying a chicken that’s been overfed, and who knows what else so it’s “ripe” at eight weeks.

Every year for Christmas we go all out and invest tons of money in buying a organic, farm raised, free land goose. You can totally tell the difference in taste and in cooking.

 

[momz]

I have a family member who runs a commercial chicken farm. They have several large barns. each week they get a truckload of chicks that get thrown into a cleaned out barn where they live out their short life (the are literally thrown in there). These barns are "cage free", so all the chickens are running around on the floor all together. There are pipes that go through along the floor where the chickens go to a dispenser to get their water. And there is feed that is delivered through a similar method. Every morning, the workers walk through the barn to remove the chickens that are disfigured, injured or dead. You would be floored to know how many of these chicks have some sort of congenital defect. Have seen it all.

Anyway. the feed is carefully controlled. They get a predetermined mix of feed and/or antibiotics, hormones and whatever else they put in that stuff. What they get is determined by how old the chickens are and it changes the closer it gets to time to harvest them. I don't recall how many weeks they grow. It used to be 9 weeks but I know that time has shortened significantly over the years. It maybe 6-8 weeks, I honestly don't remember what it is now. But, about a week before they are harvested, their feed is changed to a mix that allows them to say these are antibiotic and/or hormone free or whatever it is that they like to advertise to make the consumer think it's all good.

The light, temperature and humidity are also carefully controlled in those barns. Each barnful of chickens are all at the same stage within the barn, but they rotate the barns, so there is always one barn getting cleaned out, while another barn receives the new chicks, a third barn is being harvested and all the other barns are in some stage of growth.

There is a huge waste area where they put all the chicken poop when they clean the barns out. They sell this as fertilizer...so whatever the chickens have been feed is now being spread onto the fields as fertilizer. you can see that stuff does get consumed by humans regardless if you eat meat or not, kwim?

Whenever I visit, I have to take a supply of prednisone as there is something in the air that causes me to break out in hives. don't know if its the feed, the chickens themselves, the excrement...who knows. thankfully, i don't go visit very often.

 

[AustinTink]

I get all of my meat from local farms where I live. I can tell a huge difference if I buy some from our local store.

There is a very nice farmer's market by me on the weekends. I buy produce there but never meat. I guess I was worried about buying meat out of coolers in the 100 degree heat. After the grocery store green chicken, I will have no qualms about buying chicken from the igloo cooler at the farmer's market.

 

[momz]

There is a very nice farmer's market by me on the weekends. I buy produce there but never meat. I guess I was worried about buying meat out of coolers in the 100 degree heat. After the grocery store green chicken, I will have no qualms about buying chicken from the igloo cooler at the farmer's market.

they are required to follow safe practices by the health department. They are subject to inspection as well. it "should" be safe.

 

[Jangles]

There is a very nice farmer's market by me on the weekends. I buy produce there but never meat. I guess I was worried about buying meat out of coolers in the 100 degree heat. After the grocery store green chicken, I will have no qualms about buying chicken from the igloo cooler at the farmer's market.

Every year at Christmas time there are stories in the British press about green turkeys, Christmas meals being ruined etc. I supposed any bird is susceptible, kept in poor conditions.
At the moment we have avian flu doing the rounds, so all birds have to be caged, which is a problem for organic, free range poultry and egg farmers. Sadly, I am seeing lots of dead birds along the Welsh coast.