Got a new puppy!

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To crate train or not??? Just got a new puppy today and was planning on using a crate to housebreak him. I hear mixed things about it. I got a Shihpoo. Can anyone shed some light on this breed??
Thanks
 
As far as crate training...depends...do you want the dog running the household? Or would you prefer to be in charge?

Don't mean to be snarky - it is late. (FWIW - neither my current dog, or our current dogs were crate trained, but we adopted older dogs, one was 6 years old, the other was 8 years old, and both where house trained, and neither of them have ever caused any damage.) If I was ever insane enough to get a puppy - I would definitely crate train.

You MUST (it is a DisBoards rule) post pics of all new puppies.

I'm a "lab" kind of a girl, so can't help you out with that particular breed.
 
Crate. Be sure to not have a big crate to where the pup can walk all over it, do it's business in one area of the crate and still have room to lie down. Your pup should just have room enough to turn around snuggly and lie down. Puppies are just like babies, have to be watched at all times.

You may question if this was a sane decision:rotfl2: however, puppy hood goes by fast .

Congrats though!!!!!!!!
 

How old is your puppy? Have you potty trained & crate trained a puppy before?

I have a 3 year old male yorkie.

I crate trained him. I had a crate with only enough room for him to turn around and lie down. I didn't want him to use it as a potty, so I never had a potty pad inside it. I had a potty pad (in a tray) in the family room...near the back door. We only used the crate for sleeping & if we could NOT keep a close eye on him.;)

I think that potty pad training or outside training will depend on your life style. Some people pad train if it will be to hard to get their dog outside to potty...like it you lived in an apartment. But, if you have a fenced yard outside training might be more convenient.

My dog is potty pad trained and outside trained. It is great for travel! He can go potty anywhere, I just lay down a pad & tell him to go potty. The only negative would be the expense of the potty pads. My dog wants the potty pad changed after every use. I think I go thru about 10 a day.
 
How old is your puppy? Have you potty trained & crate trained a puppy before?

I have a 3 year old male yorkie.

I crate trained him. I had a crate with only enough room for him to turn around and lie down. I didn't want him to use it as a potty, so I never had a potty pad inside it. I had a potty pad (in a tray) in the family room...near the back door. We only used the crate for sleeping & if we could NOT keep a close eye on him.;)

I think that potty pad training or outside training will depend on your life style. Some people pad train if it will be to hard to get their dog outside to potty...like it you lived in an apartment. But, if you have a fenced yard outside training might be more convenient.

My dog is potty pad trained and outside trained. It is great for travel! He can go potty anywhere, I just lay down a pad & tell him to go potty. The only negative would be the expense of the potty pads. My dog wants the potty pad changed after every use. I think I go thru about 10 a day.

Hi,
Ideally I would like for him to go outside but if we take a day trip it would be nice to leave a potty pad out for him. I didn't think it was possible to train them on both? Thought it would confuse him. He is 9 weeks old. I have crate trained my last dog but that was 15 years ago.
 
Honestly, I thought I would feel very guilty about having a dog in a crate.

However, we just got a 7 month old puppy and she actually likes to be in the crate. We were home all day with her for a few days and if she wanted to take a nap or go to bed she would just go in the crate. If she wanted to interact with us and the kids she'd play out in the open, but if she just wanted to chew a toy and be alone she'd go in the crate. She'll only be in the crate for a maximum of 6 hours per day (other than bed) and even if the door is left open while we're home we know she will spend several hours in there of her own free will.

Yesterday was my first day at work and it was very reassuring to know that she was happy sleeping and chewing in her crate for the 5 hours she was alone and not getting into something dangerous or going potty in the house.
 
Crate train....100%. My dogs have always felt their crates were their 'caves'.
But as mentioned already, be sure to get a crate that is the right size for your pup. Get one that will be perfect for his adult size, not his pup size. You can stick a box or something in the crate to make it smaller while he is young. You want the dog to be able to stand up in the crate and turn around and be able to lie down, but that's about it. It isn't a doggie apt!!!
He should be in the crate if no one is able to completely watch him. As soon as he comes out of the crate, he goes out to 'do his business'. I have large dogs, so box training has never been an option....:scared1:
But I suppose with a smaller dog it is doable. But, be sure to train him to potty outside as well. My dog was used to being in his concrete dog pen (12'x10', with chainlink around it), and doing his business there. So, when we would travel, he would have a hard time figuring out that he was supposed to 'do it' on the grass or dirt!! He was looking for concrete!!! Took a bit of doing, but he's figured it out.

Good luck with your pup...be sure he is trained. People tend to think that little dogs don't need to be trained since they're so 'cute and small' but they can quickly turn into dictators with teeth!!! You do NOT want a small dog running the household...and he will if you allow it.
 
To crate train or not??? Just got a new puppy today and was planning on using a crate to housebreak him. I hear mixed things about it. I got a Shihpoo. Can anyone shed some light on this breed??
Thanks

Congrats on your new puppy! :banana::banana:

Puppies are so wonderful and fun. I am getting a puppy from our breeder's next litter, so am in puppy anticipation mode. Unfortunately, the mom is not in heat yet, so I still have more than 4-5 months to wait even if she was bred today.

Definitely crate train! I have Komondors and our breeder always recommends crate training. If done properly, dogs end up loving their crates as they are their "dens". If you look at the pictures of dens of wolves in the wild, they are very small, snug and cozy spaces. They like their crates.

Since nobody has answered about the Shihpoo, I will give it a try. Nobody has answered because a Shihpoo is not a breed, so you can't really shed any light on it. It is a mix breed dog, a mix between a Poodle and a Shih Tzu. That makes each Shihpoo a unique individual, but does not follow any breed standard.

When you mix two breeds, you can end up with an infinite amount of combinations of the two breeds, so that is why you can't shed any light. Unlike a purebred, that carries on traits of its breed consistently (especially if bred by a responsible breeder), a mix breed dog, you don't know what you are getting because it can have any combination from either parent.

For instance, your dog could have the temperament of the poodle and the hair of the shih tzu. It can have the temperament of the shih tzu and the hair of the poodle.

But even though you can't predict how your puppy will turn out, the most important is that you have a sweet puppy to love. And half the fun of a mix breed is the surprise you will get at the end.

Now we need pictures of your cutie. I need my puppy fix!
 
Dogs feel safe and secure in small places like a crate. They LIKE crates (for the most part). We crate trained our dog but she now has free roam of the house. She still opts to go into her crate (or her "cave" in the laundry room) to sleep. If she is not in one of these two places she is under a blanket on the couch or in our bed.
 
The Art of Raising a Puppy by the Monks of New Skete

We got this book before getting our dog and it was WONDERFUL. Highly recommend it if you are in the process of thinking about getting a puppy or have just gotten one.
 
I've heard only good things about crate training.

Can we see a pic?? :yay::yay:
 
From Wikipedia on the Shih-poo. Hope this helps.

The Shih-poo is a small domestic dog. It is a cross between a Poodle and a Shih Tzu. The name Shih-poo is a portmanteau of the two breed names. This type of dog is also known as the Pooshih.

The Shih-poo takes characteristics from both of its parents, and the appearance of Shih-poos will vary. Size, for example, will depend on whether the Poodle parent is a toy or not. In general the Shih-poo is long coated, since both the Poodle and the Shih-Tzu have a long coat, but its coat texture can be Shih Tzu straight, Poodle curly, or somewhere in between. Shih-poos can be any color or color combination in the ancestry of either parent. Since the Shih-poo is a mixed breed it is not recognized by any major kennel club in the U.S.

The Shih-poo is one of many named Poodle crossbreeds, bred in an attempt to combine the characteristics of the Poodle, such as its high intelligence and low-shed coat, with the desirable traits of another breed (in this case, the Shih Tzu). However, it is equally likely that undesirable traits from the parents will be produced as well, so puppies must be carefully selected. Some Shih-poo may have a longer, more Poodle-like muzzle than their Shih-Tzu parent, alleviating many breathing problems that Shih-Tzu can experience.

There are several hybrid specific registries that register hybrid / designer cross puppies from purebred parents. However, these registries are not recognized by legitimate kennel clubs or reputable breeders of purebred dogs.
 
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Your puppy is adorable! We have a shichon (mix of shih tzu and bichon), and our puupies look like they could be brothers! Buddy was actually brown and black as a small puppy, but has lightened to the same color as your pup now. Good thing we didn't name him Coco Puff!

Anyway, here is info from puppyfind about your mix of puppy:

Country of Origin: United States The Shihpoo is a hybrid mix of a Shih-tzu and either a Toy or Miniature Poodle.

Size: Height: 8 to 14 inches; Weight: 8-15 pounds

Coat: The Shihpoo's coat is wavy, normally curlier than the Shih-tzu but not as curly as the Poodle. The coat is little-to-no shedding.

Character: The Shihpoo is very loving and playful and they get along with other pets.

Temperament: Shihpoos are a little louder than the Shih-tzu. They are more active and athletic. They seem to take the best from both breeds. They are not considered 'yappers'.

Care: Shihpoos will require regular grooming.

Training: Due to their intelligence, this breed is fairly easy to train.

Activity: Shihpoos do not require a lot of exercise. They get sufficient exercise just by playing with their owners. They enjoy walks and/or backyard play.

He sounds great, doesn't he?

As far as the crate and litter box, this is what we set up...

we bought a sheet of vinyl flooring at menards and layed it over the carpet in our great room. We set up this super yard:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/North-States-Superyard-Xt-Gate/8457890

and then we got a crate (and a pad) for him to sleep in. We took the door off the crate, but he does actually go in the crate whenever he wants to nap and at bedtime. We did not teach him this, he did it on his own.
We also got the purina second nature litter box for dogs. We use wood pellets from mounds (less than $5 for 40 lb bag). They turn to saw dust when they get wet.

So his toys, food, water, crate/bed and litter box are all confined, but he still has room to move around, and he is still near us (his pack). When he is out with we just take the litter box and stuff out of the superyard. He is out with us most of the time now, unless he is naughty, we are leaving or he wants to take a nap or its bedtime.

For a young puppy though, you need to watch him 100% of the time when he is out of the superyard.

Enjoy your new little puppy!
 
Crate train for 2 important reasons (IMHO). First-when the dog gets really old, you will be able to save your carpets because they will be used to going in a crate-My really old dogs have larger crates with a towel in case they are going to have an accident when I need to go out. As puppies and younger dogs, they had smalled more compact crates. I use the crates all through their lives. Second-if you ever need to evacuate (for any reason) a dog in a crate is much more likely to be taken in a shelter, by a rescue person etc. I keep an envelope with all my dogs information (name,dob,health issues,shots, medications,my name and contact info) on hand at all times. I can clip it on the crate in a second
if I needed to. Good luck and enjoy your new dog!
 

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