Goofy Training Question for the Vets

[goofyinohio]

I had a few questions for everyone and hoping for some help. I'm struggling with my Goofy training from the standpoint I'm following my own plan and worried I'm not doing it correctly. For example this weekend I'm doing 14 miles today hopefully and 6 tomorrow. I'm worried I'm doing too much or not enough. I feel fine after my two runs, but day three like on Sunday I feel like Winnie the Pooh if you know what I mean. Last Sunday I did a half and then on Monday I did 5 miles and felt pretty bad on Tuesday later in the day.

Are you or did you do back to back's every week? I have them planned every week from now until Goofy. I'm backing off miles every few weeks and then picking them back up the next week so I'm doing what I did for the Marathon, but I'm just adding a day before or after of running at half the distance.

I have Duane's plan and it's really close to mine on the weekends, but my midweek runs are 1 day one week and 2 days the next week.

Any advice/help/keep me from freaking out would be appreciated.

Thanks

 

[thndrmatt]

http://www.halhigdon.com/marathon/inter2.html

If you look at Higdon's Intermediate 2 schedule, he has it set up pretty well for the Goofy. Obviously just by looking at it you can tell the mileage per week is pretty high, and you'd need a solid base to jump right in to that. Nothing spells injury for me more than trying to suddenly do 20, 25, or 30 miles per week without the proper base. But if you've been doing the 30-40 miles per week range already, you might be able to handle it. Intermediate 1 is also a possibility.

I'm actually using his Novice 1 this year, mainly because I've yet to ever actually stick to a schedule all the way through without getting injured, and the 40 miles during the peak week of novice 1 will be the highest I've run since high school. That and my added cycling workouts don't allow for the massive mileage weeks of the intermediate plans.

Edit: re-reading your post if I see it correctly it says other than the long runs you're only doing 1 or 2 other runs during the week? I'd highly recommend working on increasing the midweek mileage first, or you're going to have way too big a percentage of your miles on the weekend which will definitely make you feel terrible come Monday. I highly recommend what I've gone to this year which is three midweek runs Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday, long runs (or long bike for me) on Sat and Sun, and bookended rest days on Monday and Friday. The day of rest before and after the big weekend does wonders. So does an ice bath.

 

[Mooshu]

I agree with Matt. As far as building up mid week mileage and long runs on weekend, but if you're only running one day a week and back to back runs on the weekend..I'd be tired also!

I'm using the Hal Higdon Inter 2 program with some twists. I have yet to follow a schedule to the mile yet. My long runs this weekend will be 7 saturday and 14 sunday....wish me luck!

 

[rKyDeX]

I agree with both Matt and Jeff. I've been using Hal Higdon's intermediate programs for a couple of years now and I like the schedule. I think that it prepared me well for running Goofy last year and I'm using it again for this year.

Chester

 

[mkymsehi]

Uh, Chester, that's not my post, it's Marcia's . You met her at the finish of the DL Half.

I can only guess that we're both wearing the same shirt in our avatar photo. Maybe that threw you off. We don't look alike, do we?

 

[scoolover]

I have not been able to get over 70 miles a month consistantly without hurting something. It always sets me back a week or so and then it all starts again. I guess that I will do what I did last year and go in under trained and fairly healthy just to finish each race.

As far as long runs. I would like to do a long run every other weekend and on the opposite weekend, do semi long runs back to back ending with perhaps a 10 followed by a 16 or so. I would be psyched to be able to do a 24 mile LR this year.

 

[rKyDeX]

Uh, Chester, that's not my post, it's Marcia's . You met her at the finish of the DL Half.

I can only guess that we're both wearing the same shirt in our avatar photo. Maybe that threw you off. We don't look alike, do we?

Ooops. Sorry Jeff and Marcia. Senility is a terrible thing.

Chester

 

[goofyinohio]

Thanks Everybody.

I got my plan altered by Charles over at the disneyrunning website and I'm going to give that a try. Two mid week runs followed by a back to back run one week and then just a long run the next.

It may sound crazy, but my biggest problem is eating right. I really need to focus on that.

It's great being a part of both these teams!

 

[goofyinohio]

I did fail to mention I'm planning on walking some of each race. Probably not half of each, but something like run 2 walk 1, but we'll see.

 

[Cruella de mom]

I think the issue might not be your running at all but your nutrition. Are you staying hydrated? Are you eating immediately after your runs or drinking a recovery drink?

I run T-W-T and then a long run on Saturday. I usually have to mix up my days enough that I get a few back to back long runs in so I don't schedule them in. Plus the three days in a row builds endurance as well.

I drink an accelerage immediately after every run. I don't like them, but I can really tell the difference later in the day and definately on my next run. Now that I am topping 10 miles on my mid week runs, I eat right after my runs as well. If I don't eat immediately, I feel tired all day and into the next day.

Good Luck!

 

[goofyinohio]

I think the issue might not be your running at all but your nutrition. Are you staying hydrated? Are you eating immediately after your runs or drinking a recovery drink?

I run T-W-T and then a long run on Saturday. I usually have to mix up my days enough that I get a few back to back long runs in so I don't schedule them in. Plus the three days in a row builds endurance as well.

I drink an accelerage immediately after every run. I don't like them, but I can really tell the difference later in the day and definately on my next run. Now that I am topping 10 miles on my mid week runs, I eat right after my runs as well. If I don't eat immediately, I feel tired all day and into the next day.

Good Luck!

I have no problem with Hydration. I get between 80-100 ounces of water every day and when I run even more. Now your nutrition question may be a good one because I do have a Powerade Zero and get something to eat, but it's not always immediate. I'm adding Chocolate milk right after I run and on my longer runs I'm going to have a PB sandwich and some fruits. If anyone knows my story gaining any weight back is a big concern of mine so I may not be having enough particularly on running days. Which I am also now changing.

The only time I really feel off is after my second of my back to back days and that's on the day after my back to backs. Lack of sleep could also contribute because I usually get my 8 hours, but on days I run I think I need more.