Goldendoodle vs. Labradoodle

We have a Goldendoodle, Annabelle. She is now 8 years old and does shed quite a bit, nothing compared to the Dalmatian we had previously though. She is F1, her mom was a Golden Ret. and her dad was a Chocolate Standard Poodle. She is super sweet and loves everyone but she was a puppy for a loooonnnnggg... time, she is now 8 and is starting to calm down. She is a counter cruiser and has been known to eat entire loaves of bread, money, kleenex, homework, toothbrushes, Neosporin, crayons... The things and colors we have found while scooping our yard.
I have a friend who has a Labradoodle, Parents were Lab bred with doodle, he does not shed and has a beautiful fluffy coat. My Annabelle has more of a Golden Retriever coat, she does not smell.
I originally wanted a Standard Poodle but DH did not so we went with the Doodle breed, figured I'd get a little Poodle but Annabelle's personality is all Retriever. I love the looks of the Goldendoodle and Labradoodle. Our mailman says she looks like a muppet.

Our Cindy Lou is a counter cruiser as well and has eaten most of what you mentioned above. She also loves to greet us at the door with something in her mouth, usually underwear or socks if someone leaves them on the floor. It is like she has to bring us something as a greeting when we get home. :)
 
Our Cindy Lou is a counter cruiser as well and has eaten most of what you mentioned above. She also loves to greet us at the door with something in her mouth, usually underwear or socks if someone leaves them on the floor. It is like she has to bring us something as a greeting when we get home. :)

Our Doodle does this too! For her, it is usually a toy she brings straight to the front door, but she always greets with something in her mouth.:laughing:
 
To the poster who put the lengthly article about the original creator of the labradoodle. Well tonight I spoke with my vet, whom I trust, she told me there are odds you take with ANY DOG YOU PURCHASE! No one can guarantee against any birth defects or disease, no matter how many papers they have.. Owning a pet she said is a gamble, there is NO GUARANTEE.
Many contracts do include a health guarantee (like no Hip Dysplasia for a year from purchase) where you can return the dog to the breeder and receive another dog. I don't think that many pet owners would do that, but the option is there in many contracts. Along the same line, I think it's a HUGE red flag if a breeder does not REQUIRE you to return a dog to them if there is a problem and you need to give the dog up. No reputable breeder wants one of their dogs in shelter. They would rather you return to the dog to them and allow them to find a new home for the dog.

FWIW, it's not about "papers". Many puppy mills and back yard breeders wave their AKC papers around as a way to legitimize their business. In cases like that, AKC "papers" are as good as a roll of Charmin. Just because a dog has "papers" means NOTHING. The papers that are important are the reports from the genetic tests. The fact is that your odds are much better of purchasing a healthy dog from a reputable breeder who knows the history of both parents and does genetic testing than from a pet store or back yard breeder.

Do your research. Ask lots of questions. If a breeder doesn't ask YOU questions, cross them off your list. Read up on what genetic problems both breeds can have. Ask about the health of the parents. Read the contract. Does it protect the dog or just the breeder? Are you required to spay or neuter? Will the breeder take the dog back if you need to give him up?

In the interest of full disclosure, I was at the Animart pet store yesterday and saw the cutest Puggle. O.M.G. was he cute. I thought about this thread while I petted him :dogdance:. I usually don't do into Animart because of their puppies, but I thought they carried a specialty litter box and I wanted to see it in person.
 
so,

you don't believe the Doodle is a mutt.
you don't believe they have a host of health problems.
you don't believe that you should ask for health clearances from the parents
you don't believe that a reputable will know the health statistics of many past generations
you don't believe anything that might be negative about a doodle.

Why did you ask then?

and a great big 'good luck'


ps...do some google research on what is a reputable breeder and how to find one if you won't believe some very experienced dog people on this thread.
 

so,

you don't believe the Doodle is a mutt.

Reread what I wrote, Not what you interpret....

you don't believe they have a host of health problems.

No I don't believe they have any more chances than any other dog...That i was also told by my vet..e.Every dog can HAVE health issues, there is NO GUARANTEE

you don't believe that you should asenk for health clearances from the parts

Did I say that? I don't recall those words coming from my mouth..I said I will not be asking about grandparents...

you don't believe that a reputable will know the health statistics of many past generations

Again did I say that??!!!!


you don't believe anything that might be negative about a doodle.

Again did I say that??!!


Why did you ask then?

I asked about Goldendoodles and Labradoodles..I asked about different types of Doodles, I asked about shedding..I did NOT ask to be lectured upon breeders and told they are a Mutt...or told how the original inventor of the Doodle wishes he didn't create the "mutt"...

and a great big 'good luck'

Thank you...

ps...do some google research on what is a reputable breeder and how to find one if you won't believe some very experienced dog people on this thread.

I did listen to several people on this thread, BUT I am also going to listen to the advice that my Vet gave me...

All this MUTT talk and my DS11 asked me tonight if he was a MUTT, and I had to laugh and say "Why yes you are" :rotfl::rotfl::lmao::rotfl:

It seems to me that several posters are really bothered there is a MUTT out there with a name...I just don't understand that, and maybe that is just how I am reading into it.
All I know is I am looking for a family pet to share all our fun times. And hopefully very soon, I will have a new furry little child....:thumbsup2
 
OP, As you noticed, people get emotional about pets! ;)

Go with your heart...and I hope you enjoy whatever kind of dog you choose. :hug:

TC :cool1:
 
I did listen to several people on this thread, BUT I am also going to listen to the advice that my Vet gave me...

All this MUTT talk and my DS11 asked me tonight if he was a MUTT, and I had to laugh and say "Why yes you are" :rotfl::rotfl::lmao::rotfl:

It seems to me that several posters are really bothered there is a MUTT out there with a name...I just don't understand that, and maybe that is just how I am reading into it.
All I know is I am looking for a family pet to share all our fun times. And hopefully very soon, I will have a new furry little child....:thumbsup2
I have nothing against doodles persay and I'm not in the habit of calling ANY dogs mutts, exept maybe my own when we call her a Mangy Mutt fooling around. :laughing:

You asked for information and opinions and people gave you good information over several pages on this thread, yet you still want to criticize those posters for telling you what you asked for. It appears you have no more understanding of the issues than when you started, which is a shame, seeing as a lot of people took the time to post.

It doesn't mean don't get a doodle. It means do your research, as you would with any dog coming into your home. That's it.

My own personal feeling about these types of dogs is that I cringe when I see and hear people buying them for the wrong reasons, for astronomically inflated prices, without understanding the lineage issue, and from the wrong places. But that could be true of any dog as well.

I have seen some beautiful doodles and I can understand why people like them. (And I have seen some bad ones, too.) However, because their genes may be so random, you are not going to get the type of "standard" that you get with a purebred dog with predictable traits. Doodles will show traits from both their lineages (and maybe more if the lineage is not pure) and that could be a host of traits both physically and behavior wise. With purebreds, there are personality differences within the breed, but generally, what you will get is predictable. I don't believe you can say that with doodles (perhaps with the exception of those breeding correctly for the right reasons), which is why, from the beginning and now, nobody here can really give you the answer you want.

My own sense, too, is that one of the big reasons this became such a heated issue in general, is that those who understand dogs and dog breeding were outraged to see unscrupulous people taking advantage of the "designer dog" phenomenon by sticking two dogs together without any care of what they're doing in order to make a windfall profit. Heck, it does seem like a good idea if you want to make a quick few thousand and you think of dogs as commodities. :headache: Do people do this with purebreds? Of course they do! Which is why we see so many problems in purebreds today. I had a guy come up to me recently with a male GSD to ask if my female was spayed, saying he was looking for one to breed his male with. Really? If I said yes, we might have been on our way! :scared1:

The bottom line for buying ANY dog purposefully bred is that there are established guidelines to follow in order to maximize your chances of getting a good quality dog, and that your best chances will come from buying from someone with many years of experience with the breed, selecting only dogs with good traits and eliminating from breeding stock those with bad traits - which would include health problems and flaws in temperament - who does it for the love and betterment of the breed.

As for our mix friends at the pounds, the reason people suggest going there if you don't care much about breeds is that you are just as likely to find a great dog there as you are buying from an unscrupulous breeder, and you might even have a healthier dog in the long run if it was truly a random mix. What I would suggest for anyone getting a dog from shelter is to go in with an open mind and find the dog that has the absolute sweetest personality you could imagine and is a great fit for your lifestyle and family. If you remember adorable dogs like Benji, they were rescued from pounds and were probably the precursors to doodles.
 
HELP...I need some advice. We are looking for a new furry family member. We are looking at the Doodles because we have mild allergies and because I sony want to vacuum everyday with a GOlden Retriever. So DOodle it is...BUt which one..

There are F1's, F1b's, F2's and so on. Some breeders are saying just do F1 a mix between golden and poodle or lab and poodle and F1b is a mix between doodle back to poodle picking up a lot of poodle traits...

Ok here is my scenario, I don't want my dog to look like a standard Poodle, i would definitely prefer more of the Golden or Lab look..

anyone out here with these dogs who could offer ANY advice, or any info...Please help...Picking out a new dog is so confusing. With the deposits to be first picks and so on...My last little love came from a pet store, and it was easy. But I wanted to go through a breeder this time...

Thank you for your time and HELP:thumbsup2

We have a miniature labradoodle and she is by far the best dog I have ever been around. Even our friends comment that she is the best dog. If you are interested in our breeder, let me know and I'd be happy to pass that info along to you via PM. She does not shed and my girls are allergic to Labs but not to her, which is the reason we got her. She is truly an amazing dog. Love her to pieces!
 
We have a miniature labradoodle and she is by far the best dog I have ever been around. Even our friends comment that she is the best dog. If you are interested in our breeder, let me know and I'd be happy to pass that info along to you via PM. She does not shed and my girls are allergic to Labs but not to her, which is the reason we got her. She is truly an amazing dog. Love her to pieces!
Oh, wow - a miniature labradoodle. What is her heritage? Are all the dogs from these litters miniature?
 
Oh, wow - a miniature labradoodle. What is her heritage? Are all the dogs from these litters miniature?

She is a multi-generation Australian Labradoodle. Truly an amazing dog. The breeder started The Australian Labradoodle Club of America.
 
Yes, she only breeds miniatures. They average about 25lbs as adults. I researched for almost a year before we decided to go with this particular breeder. They make wonderful service dogs as well.
 
I was curious about the miniature labradoodles - and how this could possibly be achieved - so I looked around at the websites of several breeders with the Australian Labradoodle Club of America credentials listed advertising miniatures and here's a small sampling of what I found.

specializes in raising healthy, quality family puppies. We have your new family member ready now in all colors from tiny miniature to medium sizes

XXXX is parti factored and they should produce red, apricot and cream mini parti's with striking mismarks, approximately 15-16 inches tall and 15-25 pounds.

They will be large minis to small mediums, creams, chocolate, apricot/cream and possibly black with wavy and curly fleece coats.

They will be small and large minis.

They are expected to have large minis in chocolate, cream, cream/apricot.

All of our labradoodle puppies are miniatures and should be in the 15 to 23 pounds range and 14 to 16 inches high.

Most of them had many litters of puppies available.

Tiny miniature, small miniature, medium miniature, large miniature. All available.

(Non-mini) Mediums, too.

What I would like to know, if I am a puppy buyer and I want a tiny mini, is how do I know for sure what I am getting when I take an 8 week old puppy home?

What if the tiny mini turns into a large mini? Or a plain old medium? :eek:

I notice they cover this uncertainty by using terms like "should", "possibly" and "expected to".

DipsyDoodle, this is not a slam on you and I'm sure you have a lovely dog. But it is an illustration of what we've been talking about.

People really do need to fully understand what they are getting (or not getting) in a purchase like this, because if someone wants a tiny mini and gets a medium, that someone is going to likely be pretty disappointed.
 
I was curious about the miniature labradoodles - and how this could possibly be achieved - so I looked around at the websites of several breeders with the Australian Labradoodle Club of America credentials listed advertising miniatures and here's a small sampling of what I found.



Most of them had many litters of puppies available.

Tiny miniature, small miniature, medium miniature, large miniature. All available.

(Non-mini) Mediums, too.

What I would like to know, if I am a puppy buyer and I want a tiny mini, is how do I know for sure what I am getting when I take an 8 week old puppy home?

What if the tiny mini turns into a large mini? Or a plain old medium? :eek:

I notice they cover this uncertainty by using terms like "should", "possibly" and "expected to".

DipsyDoodle, this is not a slam on you and I'm sure you have a lovely dog. But it is an illustration of what we've been talking about.

People really do need to fully understand what they are getting (or not getting) in a purchase like this, because if someone wants a tiny mini and gets a medium, that someone is going to likely be pretty disappointed.

I completely understand, no "slam" on me as I know I have a wonderful dog from a very responsible breeder. I think "some" people don't fully understand what they are getting. Research is key! Thanks Pea-n-me for all your insight, you are absolutely correct. I figured I'd go ahead and PM you my breeder's info so you can read about her and her dogs. The Australian Labradoodles really have an interesting history. My husband works for the department of corrections and the inmates train service dogs and they recieved a couple new dogs recently to train and they were Labradoodles!!
 












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