George Zimmerman Trial ......

[Lorelei Lee]

Different in that GZ didn't premeditate. But the same in being able to concoct a story based on knowledge if SYG,

You read the statements made by GZ, he used a lot of police terminology.

You know, it's completely plausible that the jury can think GZ is lying thru his teeth, but still not feel there is enough evidence for a conviction.

My sister was an assistant district attorney in NYC for 16 years. She knows a lot of police jargon.

Her comment? Zimmerman is a real wannabe. No one would have referred to the suspicious guy they saw walking in the neighborhood a "suspect". My sister, in those circumstances, would not have called him a "suspect". But Zimmerman chose to use that word, and a lot of other police jargon.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

The lead detective, who is a seasoned veteran, didn't think he was lying, why would the jury think he was lying. Yet, rank amateurs on here think he is lying. Why? Bias.

Lead detective didn't have the information the jury will have when they deliberate.

 

[showmeman]

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial

Court is finding it is not impeachment. Judge wants a 15 min. recess, the lock on the evidence room needs fixin' #Zimmerman

This Judge is horrible. She let in all kinds of videos of Zimmerman and testimony about Zimmerman's school records, professors, etc.

She will be the subject of appeals if Zimmerman gets any conviction.

 

[moburg]

Excuse me, but I am an attorney. If I had just been involved in something that was less than kosher, you know that I'd be able to concoct a story that sounded more innocent. Of course I would never do anything like that, but let me tell you about something that did happen to me.


Years ago I was on a business trip to Philadelphia.I took a bad fall in the hotel lobby. My first reaction was to feel embarrassed that I fell and to wonder how I was going to manage my trip with a sprained ankle. Just like anyone else.

The hotel manager came running over to me, helped me up and got me to a chair. And then he started asking questions about what happened.

by the third question, I was in "lawyer" mode not "I just fell down" mode. Why? Because the hotel manager said to me "don't be embarrassed, we've had several other guests fall exactly the same way..." In other words, they knew there was a dangerous situation in the lobby and failed to fix it. Classic negligence. Ultimately I settled my claim against the hotel for -- well, enough money to pay for a trip to Disneyworld.

So yes, based on my own personal experience, I totally believe that Zimmerman was capable of drawing on his classroom knowledge to alter his story to fit a self-defense claim.

So, its just a weird coincidence that GZ's concocted story fits with the evidence collected and also witness testimony?

 

[usnuzuloose]

Excuse me, but I am an attorney. If I had just been involved in something that was less than kosher, you know that I'd be able to concoct a story that sounded more innocent. Of course I would never do anything like that, but let me tell you about something that did happen to me.


Years ago I was on a business trip to Philadelphia.I took a bad fall in the hotel lobby. My first reaction was to feel embarrassed that I fell and to wonder how I was going to manage my trip with a sprained ankle. Just like anyone else.

The hotel manager came running over to me, helped me up and got me to a chair. And then he started asking questions about what happened.

by the third question, I was in "lawyer" mode not "I just fell down" mode. Why? Because the hotel manager said to me "don't be embarrassed, we've had several other guests fall exactly the same way..." In other words, they knew there was a dangerous situation in the lobby and failed to fix it. Classic negligence. Ultimately I settled my claim against the hotel for -- well, enough money to pay for a trip to Disneyworld.

So yes, based on my own personal experience, I totally believe that Zimmerman was capable of drawing on his classroom knowledge to alter his story to fit a self-defense claim.

It sucks being on the other side, as managing a store a person fell outside, well his wife sued for at the one year mark. But anyway we were always told to never admit or apologize for anything. The only thing we could ask was did he need me to call for help. I did feel bad. I even gave him a towel so he could clean himself up. It was cold and wet outside. But he was upset that I wasn't apologetic. Not that I did not want to be, I just couldn't. I was served as a person to sue.

 

[Jabber_Jaws]

Im shocked it was the defense that asked TM's mom could one conclude that if its TM screaming that you can conclude my client is responsible. His moms response is corrrect.

I was dumbfounded at hearing that question. I am glad he was at least gentle with her.

I have thought O'Mara has been almost flawless through this trial, but I 100% agree with you both on this. What was he thinking?

 

[usnuzuloose]

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Court is back in session. Tune in live and watch here. http://wildabouttrial.com/george-zimmerman-live-stream.html … Jahvaris Fulton back to the stand. #Zimmerman

 

[Lorelei Lee]

There is No law against following someone. To call it an aggressive act is hogwash.

OK, then I'm going to start following you, staring at you, menacing you. and see if you get uncomfortable or nervous or scared.

 

[usnuzuloose]

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial

O'Mara is back up with Jahvaris Fulton, Trayvon's brother. #Zimmerman

 

[Lorelei Lee]

It sucks being on the other side, as managing a store a person fell outside, well his wife sued for at the one year mark. But anyway we were always told to never admit or apologize for anything. The only thing we could ask was did he need me to call for help. I did feel bad. I even gave him a towel so he could clean himself up. It was cold and wet outside. But he was upset that I wasn't apologetic. Not that I did not want to be, I just couldn't. I was served as a person to sue.

Yeah, it sucks, but you have to be careful about what you say when someone has an accident at your premises.

 

[usnuzuloose]

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial

Jahvaris doesn't remember if he heard the calls after the first two times at the mayors office and before the TV interview. #Zimmerman

 

[djm99]

George Zimmerman Trial Thread part 2 is Here

 

[usnuzuloose]

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial

Jahvaris didn't want to listen to the tape but has listened to it many more times, in total 10 times. #Zimmerman

 

[usnuzuloose]

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O'Mara is asking when Tracy (the father) left the home. Jahvaris says around 9 or 10 which puts Travyon at 5 years old. #Zimmerman

 

[usnuzuloose]

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Jahvaris and Trayvon had separate friends they interacted with. O'Mara asks for a moment. #Zimmeman

 

[usnuzuloose]

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Jahvaris is excused from the stand. State is recalling Sybrina Fulton. She doesn't need to be re sworn in. #Zimmerman

 

[usnuzuloose]

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Judge needs 5 minutes, jury is dismissed and Sybrina continues to remain on the stand. #Zimmerman

 

[showmeman]

Excuse me, but I am an attorney. If I had just been involved in something that was less than kosher, you know that I'd be able to concoct a story that sounded more innocent. Of course I would never do anything like that, but let me tell you about something that did happen to me.


Years ago I was on a business trip to Philadelphia.I took a bad fall in the hotel lobby. My first reaction was to feel embarrassed that I fell and to wonder how I was going to manage my trip with a sprained ankle. Just like anyone else.

The hotel manager came running over to me, helped me up and got me to a chair. And then he started asking questions about what happened.

by the third question, I was in "lawyer" mode not "I just fell down" mode. Why? Because the hotel manager said to me "don't be embarrassed, we've had several other guests fall exactly the same way..." In other words, they knew there was a dangerous situation in the lobby and failed to fix it. Classic negligence. Ultimately I settled my claim against the hotel for -- well, enough money to pay for a trip to Disneyworld.

So yes, based on my own personal experience, I totally believe that Zimmerman was capable of drawing on his classroom knowledge to alter his story to fit a self-defense claim.

Well, Ms. lawyer, George Zimmerman took 2 law courses. He is not a lawyer. He was not a cop. He took 2 law courses 5 years ago. You, as a practicing lawyer have a lot more knowledge than Zimmerman does. Do you practice criminal law? If not, I bet your knowledge of criminal law, while it's more than the average person, should not be consider as a pretense for you to lie about an incident.

Secondly, once you concocted your story you are subject to evidence that contradicts your story. You have no idea if any witnesses contradict you, or if any of those prevalent security video tapes are filming what happened. So it's risky to change your story.

Third, to assume that he changed his story because he took 2 courses in the law is preposterous. In fact, Ms. Lawyer, I would think it will be a good issue for appeal. The Judge should have never allowed that testimony or evidence by the state.

 

[djm99]

George Zimmerman Trial Thread part 2 is Here

 

[Mickey'snewestfan]

So, its just a weird coincidence that GZ's concocted story fits with the evidence collected and also witness testimony?

No because some of it doesn't fit (e.g. he was hit at the T, but the body was found far away).

Also, GZ would have some what of a sense of what people might have seen, and what they might not have. He could be leaving out some tiny but hugely significant details such as what he said or showed TM when he met him on the walkway. He knows that it's unlikely that anyone could hear or see that in the dark and the rain, and if he's gambling he's going to leave that out, because if they saw it he's screwed either way, but if they didn't and he omits it it could be very very helpful.