Genie+ park based priced!

[NavyDad]

But only get to do that once per ride. The fatal flaw in the Genie+ system for me. With old fast pass we rode our favorites as many times as we pleased.

The mega popular rides (TSMM, Space Mountain, Soarin) routinely ran out of Fast Passes by early afternoon with a large percentage of guests not able to ride at all without a very long wait.

 

[NavyDad]

We hated it lol. I know many liked it for the thrill but it never worked for us with small kids. When FP+ came alone I was thrilled from the beginning. I couldn’t imagine paper FP with Disney crowds these days. Times are changing.

If you told young families on their first trip today that they had no choice to pay for Genie Plus (we would just add it on to the price of your ticket whether you planned to use it or not) and instead of booking rides on their phone they literally had to run around the park starting at Rope Drop, stand in line with all of your tickets, insert those tickets into an ATM machine to get a paper ticket with a time to come back later in the day to ride.....

....they would look at us like we had completely lost our minds.

LOL

 

[AustinTink]

The mega popular rides (TSMM, Space Mountain, Soarin) routinely ran out of Fast Passes by early afternoon with a large percentage of guests not able to ride at all without a very long wait.

Those rides were never an issue for us. We rope dropped them, then fast passed them multiple times and then walked on at the end of the night. Easy Peasy.

 

[AustinTink]

If you told young families on their first trip today that they had no choice to pay for Genie Plus (we would just add it on to the price of your ticket whether you planned to use it or not) and instead of booking rides on their phone they literally had to run around the park starting at Rope Drop, stand in line with all of your tickets, insert those tickets into an ATM machine to get a paper ticket with a time to come back later in the day to ride.....

....they would look at us like we had completely lost our minds.

LOL

Do you secretly work for Disney?

I kid, I kid. Different strokes for different folks. Nice trading posts with you on this thread today. Gotta go do some actual work now on this computer. Lol.

 

[NavyDad]

Those rides were never an issue for us. We rope dropped them, then fast passed them multiple times and then walked on at the end of the night. Easy Peasy.

Nobody was getting multiple Fast Passes for TSMM per day during the paper fast pass era.

 

[AustinTink]

Nobody was getting multiple Fast Passes for TSMM per day during the paper fast pass era.

At DLR they were.

 

[NavyDad]

Do you secretly work for Disney?

I kid, I kid. Different strokes for different folks. Nice trading posts with you on this thread today. Gotta go do some actual work now on this computer. Lol.

No - but would love to do that someday. I served in the Navy for 22 years and now I have a "real job" until my kids are out of college. I would absolutely love to retire at that point to central Florida and work at WDW if I can convince my wife.

When I planned our first family trip in 2009 I came to these boards as well as a couple of other sites. I almost backed otu of the trip completely because 80% of the posts and comments were people complaining about this or that. Honestly most of the complaints from 2009 sounded the same as they do now. Ironically many of the people who have sworn they were done giving Disney their money over the years keep coming back year after year to tell us about their recent trips and complain about something new.

Luckily I stuck with the trip. I figured all of these people must love going to WDW even though they complain about it constantly, if they were going to spend time posting 5,000 times a year on the site. We had a fantastic first trip and have tried to come back every year since then. Between all of the constant complaining, this place has great information and has helped me keep up to date so I can plan and give my family another great WDW trip. Our kids and I have had so many great memories over the years, including seeing our daughter march down Main Street with her high school marching band.

One of our trips, we just missed a boat to Fort Wilderness and a Cast Member saw the whole thing. It was the end of the night and our girls were tired. He scooped us up, put us on a pontoon boat, gave us a tour of both lakes including up close looks at the resorts and delivered us to Fort Wilderness dock where he had called ahead and had a Disney shuttle drive us to our cabin. It was magical and we have had so many other magical moments at Disney.

My view is: let your dollars do your talking. If WDW is too expensive then don't go. If Genie Plus is too expensive.... don't buy it. 15 years of the same complaining gets tiresome....

 

[Genie+]

Nickel and diming yes. I also see each change narrowing the gap between what people pay and what they can get.

Knowing how to run WDW isn’t good enough anymore. Advantage comes thru $, not experience.

 

[AustinTink]

No - but would love to do that someday. I served in the Navy for 22 years and now I have a "real job" until my kids are out of college. I would absolutely love to retire at that point to central Florida and work at WDW if I can convince my wife.

When I planned our first family trip in 2009 I came to these boards as well as a couple of other sites. I almost backed otu of the trip completely because 80% of the posts and comments were people complaining about this or that. Honestly most of the complaints from 2009 sounded the same as they do now. Ironically many of the people who have sworn they were done giving Disney their money over the years keep coming back year after year to tell us about their recent trips and complain about something new.

Luckily I stuck with the trip. I figured all of these people must love going to WDW even though they complain about it constantly, if they were going to spend time posting 5,000 times a year on the site. We had a fantastic first trip and have tried to come back every year since then. Between all of the constant complaining, this place has great information and has helped me keep up to date so I can plan and give my family another great WDW trip. Our kids and I have had so many great memories over the years, including seeing our daughter march down Main Street with her high school marching band.

One of our trips, we just missed a boat to Fort Wilderness and a Cast Member saw the whole thing. It was the end of the night and our girls were tired. He scooped us up, put us on a pontoon boat, gave us a tour of both lakes including up close looks at the resorts and delivered us to Fort Wilderness dock where he had called ahead and had a Disney shuttle drive us to our cabin. It was magical and we have had so many other magical moments at Disney.

My view is: let your dollars do your talking. If WDW is too expensive then don't go. If Genie Plus is too expensive.... don't buy it. 15 years of the same complaining gets tiresome....

Um, why are you singling me out today? Have we communicated before in this forum? I apologize if I don’t remember the interaction.

I have also been on these boards a very long time. The thing I love most about them is that everyone has a voice. Pro or con, this way or that, we are all allowed to speak here freely as long as we don’t target one another negatively. You have to take the good with the bad on the Dis. Then you realize that everyone counts, opinions matter and the truth of the matter lies somewhere in the mix. Sorry the complaining is tiresome to you. Maybe it’s time to take a break.

Regardless of anything I “complain” about on the Dis, I will alway travel to Disneyland and WDW annually. 27 trips to the mouse under my belt and many more to come if we are lucky.

 

[Ricguz]

I wouldn't feel too sorry for us.

When my wife went to WDW in the 90's she had to wait in line over 2 hours each to ride any of the mountains in MK. That was before anyone ever heard of Fast Pass.

Thanks to Fast Pass, FP+ and now Genie Plus, our kids have never had to experience waiting in line for more than 30 minutes for any of those rides and most trips those services have allowed us to essentially walk on ride after ride.

We were at WDW last week and while my daughters were having a great time in the pool I was able to keep booking rides for that night at Hollywood Studios. We walked into DHS at 5:30 PM and we rode Slinky Dog, Toy Story Mania, Star Wars Smugglers Run, Rock 'N Roller Coaster and Tower of Terror all without waiting in line for more than 5 minutes.

You sure couldn't do that prior to FP/Genie. Yes - we did pay more than the old days but what doesn't cost significantly more than the old days?

I gave this example in another thread: in 2008 we rented a house for 3 families in the Outer Banks for $3K for an entire week. Over the years we returned to that house the very same week 3-4 more times. We rented it again in the summer of 2021 (same week) and the price had gone up to almost $9,000 for the week. That price almost killed us but we split it with the in-laws to make it work. I looked at the price for the same week this year and it is now $12,000 for that same week. The price went up 400% in 15 years. The craziest part was it was booked for the entire summer with some weeks going for $15K

I hear you. I’m happy it has worked for you.

 

[bholbert81]

I am personally not a fan of the Genie...bring back fast pass!!!

 

[Mle8308]

Nobody was getting multiple Fast Passes for TSMM per day during the paper fast pass era.

You could if you knew the trick on the back of the FP machines.... at least one at each location. If FP were still being distributed.

 

[FoxC63]

My view is: let your dollars do your talking. If WDW is too expensive then don't go. If Genie Plus is too expensive.... don't buy it. 15 years of the same complaining gets tiresome....

Genie + hasn't been around for 15 years...

 

[scrappinginontario]

NOTE:

Agree to disagree and move on. Each person knows what is 'beneficial' to them and what is not. It will never be the same for everyone. Do not try to convince someone else that they need to feel the same as you.

Future posts trying to tell someone else to believe what you do will be removed. Yes, this is the place to discuss the changes but not to bicker back and forth at the expense of everyone else trying to read this thread.

 

[Minnie1222]

Genie + hasn't been around for 15 years...

The person was referring to changes in the past 15 years, from FastPass to Genie+.

 

[Redsred3]

I hadn’t seen anyone post this yet, but it looks like MK and PH Genie + are $25 today. So less than the first day. HS is less too.

 

[Minnie1222]

On a semi-related note, iLL for FOP, ROTR, and Mine Train already sold out, but Tron and Guardian are still available.

 

[2Lunds]

Genie+ wasn’t worth it for Epcot back when it was a flat $15 everywhere.

true

 

[SL6827]

This is message board. If you don't want to see complaining, don't read it.

 

[fluffybunny88]

In my opinion this is the first step of them bringing the ability to pre purchase genie+ for your vacation. If they get rid of the park pass reservations they can use some of the data from this to see what parks people might be going to on each day if they buy the non park hopper genie+.

Honestly that brings up another question, for the vast majority of Disneyworld visitors(not those of us on forums talking about planning our trips a year in advance) I wonder if the majority of people don't buy park hoppers, but there's no way for us to get that information.