FP+ Options From Survey (Poll)

[linzbear]

I'd actually like a hybrid of 1 & 2, so that after using 2 FPs you can get an additional one, so you can book a night time FP without getting penalized but also keep the available FP pool bigger.

Might be a nightmare to explain to guests though.

 

[Viva Las Disney]

I voted for option 1 but wonder if the system has enough FP's available for any of these options to really work. If all the FP's for TSMM, Soarin, TT, KS, etc are gone by early afternoon (because they are all prebooked) the ability to pull another FP doesn't really help. I think option 1 would also make the parades and fireworks FP's nearly impossible to get, being able to use one FP for multiple rides while having the nighttime shows prebooked would be amazing.

I really enjoyed being able to prebook the majors using FP+ when I visited WDW but I've gone to DL several times since and I also love the flexibility of legacy FP, if it works option 1 would be the best of both worlds.

 

[tazadd0420]

Option 3. After 1pm can add 4th fast pass. This would allow us to go to rd. Ride morning at one park and hop over to another park in the afternoon now with 4 FP or more.

I would choose option one if they did not have to be in one park and tiers are not in place for 4th FP. This may be to much for IT to handle though. Almost have to keep as simple as possible under this new system. Option one maybe still if just allow use in different parks.

Option 2 I think does not do much. Have to use all 3 FP first, then stuck with tier 3 rides, no thank you.

 

[jcemom]

Well, if the rope droppers are making their 6th FP reservation before you've used your first FP, it isn't much different than the FP- system, is it....

Yes, and this is exactly why I chose Option #1.

 

[MichiganDVC]

Sure it is - under the old system, you got no FP- to rides like Soarin' or TSMM if you arrived in the parks at 1pm.

If you are a late arriver, FP+ is awesome - and I would want to keep flexibility in the system to help me on the days that I want to arrive early.

And if you are staying onsite and are a "late-arriver," what are you doing?
A. You're in another park riding standby
B. You're at the Disney resort pool buying drinks and lunch from them
C. You're at a Disney restaurant.

They WANT you to have the flexibility to do other things with your day so that you:
A. spend money
B. Aren't in the parks clogging up the standby lines

Actually, the 3 FP per day, if used correctly, is better for all guests. If ride maximization is what is important to you, arrive at rope drop and do all the standby rides until 11:00am. Then either go back to resort for midday and use 3 FP+ for evening, or use 3 FP+ for afternoon and head back to resort for evening.

If ride maximization isn't important, sleep in and do the pool-lunch thing at the resort. Head to the parks at 4:00pm and make your 3 FP for evening.

The people who get there are rope drop, pull 17 fast passes, and stay til close make the parks more crowded. Imagine if everyone did that! The parks would be like a Japanese commuter train during rush hour.

 

[*disgal*]

Can't take credit, it was Dallas_Lady in the other thread .

Well, thank you both! I was hoping someone started a poll for this.

Oh, and I voted for the first one.

 

[MichiganDVC]

Yes, and this is exactly why I chose Option #1.

But of course, you realize that once everyone can make 6 FP+ per day, there will be no room for changes. All flexibility will be lost. Whatever you choose 60 days in advance will be what you have to do, rain or shine, in sickness and in health.

If your young child rides BTMRR for the first time after rope drop and loves it and wants to do it again, you won't be able to switch your Winnie the Pooh FP+ because BTMRR fast passes will be gone for the day.

Personally, I prefer quality over quantity.

 

[2Tiggies]

Actually, the 3 FP per day, if used correctly, is better for all guests.

Not for all guests. For those who liked to arrive at the parks late and still get to ride more popular attractions without a long wait.

The people who get there are rope drop, pull 17 fast passes, and stay til close make the parks more crowded. Imagine if everyone did that! The parks would be like a Japanese commuter train during rush hour.

But the reality is that such a small percentage of folk actually have the stamina to do this that it would never be and was never a problem. Yes, we were part of that minority. But there are two of us, we have great stamina and can function on little sleep and are fairly fit. Last trip we met up with a friend who spent two days with us and stated, when leaving early on the second day "If I had to spend a week touring parks with you two I'd be dead by day 3 so I'm leaving while I can still walk." Of course there is a limit to how long anyone can do that. So a few days of touring would be followed by a day in a waterpark or at the pool at the resort - two less people in the parks ripping FP's out of the machines.

ETA: It was not our normal practice to pull 17; we averaged about 12 or so

 

[*disgal*]

I have mixed feelings about all of it. Yes, I want the ability to get more FPs. But once they add that, people will be more tempted than ever to schedule (and use) Fps earlier in the day, making rope drop potentially busier. And is it worth booking them early in the day to get more, when the "more" you get could just be the junk leftovers? I just don't know. Only time and experience will tell.

I know what you mean. I chose the first option but my family would probably have FPs for morning and then keep pulling them. But I do wonder if anything would be left. So it might not be smart. Of course, the first option is still a BIG improvement to FP+ for our family!

I can explain why I chose #4.

One of the best parts of FP+, IMO, is your ability to change most of your attractions on the day of. So if 60 days out you make your Space Mountain reservation for 2:00 PM, but at 1:00pm that day your family is still enjoying the afternoon at the pool or in another park, currently you can change your Space MT fast pass for later that afternoon or evening.

IF you allow people to make 4th, 5th, 6th FPs once they complete either one FP or all three FP, you're going to have people taking additional FPs by 12:00pm. This will severely limit anyone else's ability to change their original FPs for later in the day. Clearly those people will use their 4-6th FPs to reserve the headliners and you will be stuck in your reserved spot.

Personally, I like the 3 FPs knowing there WILL be additional times to move them to if needed.

Wasn't everyone complaining that FP+ forced them to plan their days down to the minute 60 days in advance?! Well, if the rope droppers are making their 6th FP reservation before you've used your first FP, it isn't much different than the FP- system, is it....

Well, correct me if I'm wrong everyone but isn't it subject to availability? I could maybe seeing it happen in January or September, ?, but I don't think the rest of the year you would see much available for Space Mountain after 2pm, or even earlier. Especially not now with Disney pushing every guest to pick 3 FPs where before there were tons of people not using FPs.

 

[*disgal*]

But of course, you realize that once everyone can make 6 FP+ per day, there will be no room for changes. All flexibility will be lost. Whatever you choose 60 days in advance will be what you have to do, rain or shine, in sickness and in health.

But you did get at least a choice where as before you didn't get ANY choice, 60 days out or day of. YOu could have even been given a FP for BTMRR when you had a lunch scheduled with Pooh, right? (the schedule thing is the only thing I LIKE about the FP+ system now )

 

[2Tiggies]

So it might not be smart. Of course, the first option is still a BIG improvement to FP+ for our family!

My view is that we clearly aren't getting back what we had so now we work with the next best option. My next best option is the same as yours. I agree, not 100% perfect, but I'll take any improvement over nothing.

 

[LucyBC80]

I chose option one but what I really want to know is: will I be able to pick another headliner I might have used a FP+ on or will I need to choose something different. I know availability plays a role here but I've already rode BTMRR, Splash and 7DMTR and there are FP+ left, can I pick one of those rides again?

 

[ebtbmom]

I hope they do option 1 in addition to installing charging stations! It stresses me out to run my battery so low especially when I travel with a roaming teenager.

 

[tazadd0420]

I hope they do option 1 in addition to installing charging stations! It stresses me out to run my battery so low especially when I travel with a roaming teenager.

This is one the main reason we are picking up portable chargers to use during the day. The phone has just become that much more important.

 

[*disgal*]

My view is that we clearly aren't getting back what we had so now we work with the next best option. My next best option is the same as yours. I agree, not 100% perfect, but I'll take any improvement over nothing.

2Tiggies, you are SO right. Of course, my opinion might totally change, correct? Because I haven't been there yet to use it. I shouldn't even have an opinion yet, right? Because my family might get there and breathe in the Disney magic and suddenly think it's great using 3 FPs instead of 6 or 7.

sorry, there are times only sarcasm gets me thru reading this board.

 

[khertz]

I voted for the first option. I haven't used FP+ yet myself, but we are using it in May, and I'm not at all excited about the ability to only have 3 FP per day. A rolling 4th FP would make the system more ideal for me. We didn't get a crazy amount of FP during the day under the old system, but it was certainly more than 3.

 

[JimmyV]

I can explain why I chose #4.

One of the best parts of FP+, IMO, is your ability to change most of your attractions on the day of. So if 60 days out you make your Space Mountain reservation for 2:00 PM, but at 1:00pm that day your family is still enjoying the afternoon at the pool or in another park, currently you can change your Space MT fast pass for later that afternoon or evening.

IF you allow people to make 4th, 5th, 6th FPs once they complete either one FP or all three FP, you're going to have people taking additional FPs by 12:00pm. This will severely limit anyone else's ability to change their original FPs for later in the day. Clearly those people will use their 4-6th FPs to reserve the headliners and you will be stuck in your reserved spot.

Personally, I like the 3 FPs knowing there WILL be additional times to move them to if needed.

Wasn't everyone complaining that FP+ forced them to plan their days down to the minute 60 days in advance?! Well, if the rope droppers are making their 6th FP reservation before you've used your first FP, it isn't much different than the FP- system, is it....

The fallacy of your approach is the idea that people who lounge around the pool and arrive in the park at 2:00 currently have unfettered ability to make changes. You are trying to protect a "benefit" that doesn't really exist, especially at crowded times. No one wants to put their fun on hold waiting for you to finish your Pina Colada by the pool.

 

[larryz]

See my response, below.

 

[larryz]

Let's keep it fair to everyone, especially those who have had to experience the "3 FP+" paradigm.

 

[Dallas_Lady]

Can't take credit, it was Dallas_Lady in the other thread .