For Gosh Sakes...Act Like You Got Some Sense!!!

[DisneyDadFaNaTic]

If I was smart enough to get a Fast Pass and avoid the Stand By Line, don't harrass me because you were dumb enough to get in the Stand By Line. I can't help it if I know how to work the system and avoid most of the lines.

 

[kaytieeldr]

This seems pretty inexcusable to me. If you have managed to live your entire life up until now without needing a scooter (except for those with recently broken legs), odds are you don't need it now, and are just being lazy.

This comment is, in my opinion, inappropriate even for this thread. I do live most of my life without an ECV. I have my 'real' life arranged so I generally don't need to walk far - I park near the entrance to my condo; downstairs from my office; in small restaurant and stripmall lots; near peoples' homes; or I shop online. I'm not lazy (thanks for making that judgment call on people you don't know ) I'm in pain. Yes, I'm experienced using an ECV - in fact, a number of Cast Members complimented me last week - but EVERYONE who uses one had a 'first time'. Whether it's on an upcoming Disney vacation, or fifteen years ago, or at the supermarket,,, there's a first time for everything.

It ssems to me all of the criticisms and complaints about people's behaviors can be boiled down to this one overriding principal.
The wisest of men once said - Treat others the way ou want to be treated.
(Please excuse me if this point was already made. I tried to read them all but may have missed one or two.)

I don't think it's been stated in this thread before your post, but even if it has - it can't be said TOO often!

Do the people on scooters have the right of way? While DW and I were in Epcot, a lady was honking the scooter horn at people walking in front her so she could get by.

No, except (and this is my opinion only) when you leave The Land pavilion there are two pathways to your right. One is CLEARLY marked with the wheelchair symbol, both with signs posted at each end of the path and with plaques embedded into the sidewalk. THERE, I feel, wheelchairs and ECVs have the right of way. But ordinarly? No. Good AND bad point of the offsite rentals, and of ECVs owned by the users, is that the speed is adjustable - from turtle to hare. Many people think that simply because the scooter can move faster than others can walk, this entitles the rider to act as the woman you encountered did.

I agree that the free dining really brought out the 'dregs of humanity'.

Oh, gee - and here I am, thinking it brought out Disney fans Guests. While the two aren't mutually exclusive, that was another judgmental and unfair remark.

Maybe we can start our own 'community of tomorrow' where manners/courtesy/consideration of others are the LAW.

Great idea! Lime green t-shirts with "Courtest Patrol" or "Common Sense Squad" emblems - and we could hand out stuff from Oriental Trading to people doing the 'right' thing

They get on rides quicker and the little extras.

Common misconception. While I won't address what you saw (because I'm sure it happened), as much as possible Guests in wheelchairs/ECVs not only do NOT get on rides quicker, sometimes there's a much longer wait than for the general public. My own experiences are at Maelstrom, where I've seen Guests who entered the building with me apparently finish the ride (and skip the movie) while I'm still waiting for a CM to let me in the alternate entrance; and on Kilimanjaro Safari, where I may get ON the truck reasonably fast, but then it waits to fill up. If you're the first party to board, it can be a relatively long wait. Or at Honey I Shrunk the Audience during EMH last week, when I got there at 9:45 but could not get in to the upcoming show because the wheelchair capacity had been reached. I was given a handwritten fastpass for the 10:30 show - so I had to wait an extra 45 minutes, while all the ambulatory Guests got to go right in.

Some people will not get on a standing room only bus. They will wait for a bus that they can have a seat on. Maybe that is why they didn't stand and give up their seat. Maybe they were not capable of standing at that time.

And it should be noted that standing AT a bus stop is entirely different from standing ON a moving bus.

I am that obnoxious person some of the time--geez, idiot, get a clue, the line's end is back there...don't feed the birds, read the signs...appreciate the smoke in my face and the lit cigarette you almost burned my son with...this is the FP line, not the standby line...if you didn't make a reservation, don't complain about the long wait...but these snarky things tend to come out of me when I'm very tired and fed up with the behavior all around me after a long day of abuses. I have recognized this is a problem and am in a twelve-step program now, I promise not to be That Jerk next trip.

You can really do the same thing with a different attitude:
"Excuse me, the end of this line is over there".
"Did you see this sign telling Guests not to feed the birds? I know, Disney should make it more obvious - maybe hang little tags around all the birds' necks?" (the latter ONLY if the Guest continues to feed )
"Gee, Disney designated some of the BEST spots in the parks for smoking; unfortunately, this isn't one of them - but right over there..."
Don't worry about the FastPass line - the CM at the head of the line will catch them and make them go to the end of the Standby Line (most of the time)

What we really need our some wheelchair/ECV rules-

1. Use a wheelchair/ECV if you need one.
2. Don't use a wheelchair/ECV if you don't need one.
3. Try your best not to bump into anyone. Don't use your wheelchair/ECV as a battering ram. If for some reason you accidently do, apologize.

Unfortunately, not everyone knows these rules.

At the same time, FAR too few people know the laws of kinetic energy (okay, fine, neither do I - but it sounded good ) so, Ambulatory Rule: Watch for wheelchairs and ECVs! ANYTHING on wheels has greater momentum and is harder/impossible to stop instantly. Couple that with being apparently invisible to people on foot and well, we do the best we can - but if you walk across the path of an ECV, even the most experienced user may not be able to avoid hitting you!

I think WDW should have a DISers only day. Think how wonderful that would be!!!

Well, it wouldn't be an officially-sponsored event (although with enough participants, and money we could rent a park for an evening) but sure, why not? DISDays at Walt Disney World!!!

 

[DiszyDeanette]

Make your food choices wisely. If you take food from the buffet or a muffin from the counter, DON’T PUT IT BACK! I don’t want to eat your rejects and I don’t want your rejects touching the food I might eat.

I read this too fast, and thought it said "and I don't want you rejects touching the food I might eat."

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

That is soooo gross. We happened to be close to someone like that in the Haunted Mansion. I thought one man was going to blow a hole in his pants.

Dang it! I thought no one noticed . It's that darn popcorn

 

[dreamergirl78]

The OP was funny. But some of these things I see complaints about are just silly.
When at a place like WDW where there is SO much to look at it is easy to become distracted. I find it hard to believe that all of those complaining about people stopping have never done it themselves. We tried to go with the flow of traffic, but there were times when we did stop to look at something. I know, unforgivable sin.
Non-smokers need to get over it already. If I go into a smoking section and a non-smoker was there first I will not wait until they leave before I light up. They have the entire park... we have small corners here and there. I got yelled at by this horrible lady for having the nerve to smoke in a smoking section. I told her that the ashtrays on top of the trashcans were not just there for decoration!
To me people singing equals happiness and fun! There was a couple behind us at the MK parade singing along and it made me smile. You could tell they were really having a great time. My son and I sang to one another several times. We were not obnoxious about it, but we were caught up in the moment and yeah, we sang. Shame on us.
One lady had the nerve to yell at my son for playing in the water jets at EPCOT. Mind you there were about 5 kids and oh 20 or so jets... but she said he was ruining it for her kids. I explained to Ryan that he did nothing wrong. People like that will never be happy with anything and she was one of those Mom's who thought her princess could do no wrong and was entitled to whatever just because she was born! Another lady went off because her son didn't get to pull the shower rope at AK. There were about 10 kids running and taking turns pulling the rope. Were either of these worth getting worked up over? NO!
Build a bridge people and GET OVER IT!!!!!!! You are at Disney. It just amazes me what people in general will find to get their knickers twisted about!

 

[kaytieeldr]

To me people singing equals happiness and fun!

Yeah, well, that's because you never heard ME sing! Now, neither did the person who posted that comment - but after thinking I could sing along with Waylon Jennings at a free concert and getting a NASTY look from a woman sitting nearby, I restrict all my singing to the car!
And I agree about that woman (not lady!) in Epcot - heck, I saw ADULTS playing in the water jets!

 

[Boncho]

Yeah, well, that's because you never heard ME sing! Now, neither did the person who posted that comment - but after thinking I could sing along with Waylon Jennings at a free concert and getting a NASTY look from a woman sitting nearby, I restrict all my singing to the car!
And I agree about that woman (not lady!) in Epcot - heck, I saw ADULTS playing in the water jets!

Don't feel bad, even my son asks me not to sing!

 

[Boncho]

Dang it! I thought no one noticed . It's that darn popcorn

Sorry, we did. My son was the one laughing!
My son loves popcorn but thank goodness when we are at WDW he loves the Mickey bars more!!!!

 

[dreamergirl78]

Yeah, well, that's because you never heard ME sing! Now, neither did the person who posted that comment - but after thinking I could sing along with Waylon Jennings at a free concert and getting a NASTY look from a woman sitting nearby, I restrict all my singing to the car!
And I agree about that woman (not lady!) in Epcot - heck, I saw ADULTS playing in the water jets!

Ronda, you are too funny. I can't carry a tune in a bucket, but I still love to do it.
Speaking of singing.... we were at the POP pool one night. It was late and the MNSSHP people were coming back to the hotel. Well one guy dressed up as Cpt. Jack walked by. At the top of his lungs Ryan sings "Yo Ho Yo Ho, A Pirates life for me!" Everyone at the pool area started laughing!
About the woman (thank you for correcting me) at the water jets. and She must be a real treat to live with!

 

[MissLiz]

Okay, reading through this have made me think of a couple.

About kids: Just because I have a child with me that has spoken to your child does not mean that I want to babysit while we are in line. Also, if your child has come up to sit in the front by us so that they can see (which is fine to me).....please do not proceed to stand immediately behind me and inch up closer and closer while pounding me in the back of the head with your hard bag.

About busses: I understand that it is not a requirement for people to stand up for little ones, but please please please do not give little ones dirty looks or bump back when they get knocked into you by the bus moving. DD4 had to stand one night (which she thought was the coolest) and she bumped into some early 20-somethings who made some cracks amongst themselves and proceeded to scoot their bodies more into the aisle so she bumped them more. I kept having to squat down to keep her from getting bumped.


OP--great list and lots of fun! I've gotten to the point where I now smile or laugh every time I see something on one of these "rules" lists being broken at WDW!!! Luckily we've never really had any major problems.

 

[ferris198]

The only thing I would add is: If your child would like to come sit in front of me to watch the parade that's fine by me. However, this does not entitle you and your family to join said child. I got there early for a reason, and was not to have you butt in front of me at the last minute. On a similar note, should you send your child up to sit in front of it is still your obligation to watch him. I am not being paid as a babysitter. Twice this has happened. The kid wanders off and then I get yelled at becuase, "you should have been watching him!" No I shouldn't! NOT MY CHILD!!

I hear you about the parade thing.
My Dh and I always take my son to the Santa Claus Parade in Toronto, and we usually go with other friends. We pack a lunch and snacks and make a morning/afternoon of it.
We always get late comers who try to butt in front of us and I find it so annoying that I have to say something.
Well, at the end of the school year in June, when my DS (5) brought home his school work I was going through his "What he did on the weekend Book".
There on the weekend of the Santa Claus Parade, he had written " some people tried to get in front of us, but my Mommy yelled at them and they went away."

 

[BuzzandAriel'smom]

OP... when were you there? We had a lady plow over the curb and a family next to us during the fireworks on 10/1. We also had an old man walk right behind us cussing about how everyone was in his way 1 minute later. Those ECVs are not ATVs. Maybe people don't realize it. Also the horn on those is for emergency use... not to alert others to clear a path for the queen!

I think they should hand out Valium at the gate because some people need to chill out!

 

[LoriMistress]

Amen! I loved that. So true...so true.

 

[Von Drake]

Very amusing post!

I would like to add this:

At attractions that require you to walk down the aisle to the farthest available seat, (Philharmagic, Muppetvision 3-D, etc. ) , please do so.
A very simple instruction, yes? Then why is it beyond some people's capacity to not only respect other guests, but also to set a good example for their children?

This one has been mentioned already, but I've given it a name:
'Line By Proxy' guests. Do not send one person into a queue to hold a place for the rest of the clan. And don't expect me to step aside to let Marcia, Jan, Cindy, Greg, Peter, and Bobby through.

 

[pjb_hockey_mom]

This is a great thread!

If there is one thing I would like to see more of is that people remember their Please and Thank yous.

During one of our trips my son, 10 at the time, saw a man struggling with a door and a child in a stroller. So, my son ran ahead and opened the door for this man. And the guy just looked at him, not a "thank you" or "what a nice kid"...nothing. My son just looked at us and shrugged his shoulders. I told him he did the right thing and praised him for the good deed.

I think as adults raising the future and setting the example, need to remember that it's the little things that can make the difference.

You get more bees with honey than you do with vinegar.

 

[akaDaddy]

OP... when were you there? We had a lady plow over the curb and a family next to us during the fireworks on 10/1. We also had an old man walk right behind us cussing about how everyone was in his way 1 minute later. Those ECVs are not ATVs. Maybe people don't realize it. Also the horn on those is for emergency use... not to alert others to clear a path for the queen!

I think they should hand out Valium at the gate because some people need to chill out!

Sorry you had a simular experience. We were there September 13 thru 23.
It appears from the posts, many DISers have seen some of these issues.

 

[TinkandAriel]

I just have to add that, somewhere, manners are still being taught...at the 3:00 parade (really, 3:30 lol), we got lucky and got a front row seat, 5yo dd was in the stroller and we were right up next to the street. (it was hot too, darnit). Just behind us to the left a hair were two little twin boys, about 4 or so. Their daddy said to them "boys, you don't stand up in that stroller, alright?" and they said simultaneously "Yes sir!!" It was so sweet. I scooched down next to dd to be sure that they could see, they were so darned polite, I asked "Can you see past me?" and they both, again, simulaneously said "Yes ma'am!!"
Now, however, the screamin meemy child a few feet down from us throwing a tantrum bc she couldn't have a fan/spray bottle...eesh...she shrieked for a good 1/2 hour til she lost her voice. And I'll bet she was 8 or so...

Becca

 

[kaytieeldr]

Also the horn on those is for emergency use... not to alert others to clear a path for the queen!

True. Now, a pair of properly-attired Pages preceding the ECV and announcing in clear voices, "Please clear the path for Her Royal Highness, the Queen of All Things Disney World"... THAT gets me through the crowds Besides, I've never experienced anyone paying attention to the so-called horn. Next time, if the Pages aren't available, I'm bringing an airhorn!

During one of our trips my son, 10 at the time, saw a man struggling with a door and a child in a stroller. So, my son ran ahead and opened the door for this man. And the guy just looked at him, not a "thank you" or "what a nice kid"...nothing. My son just looked at us and shrugged his shoulders. I told him he did the right thing and praised him for the good deed.

Just as you're doing, my mom raised us to be polite and well-mannered... but I've developed my own style in (so-called) adulthood. In a situation like your son's, I'd have still said, "You're welcome"

 

[carone0318]

My ds (5) is a personal space invader. I try my best to keep him in line, but I think he thinks that the 6 inches further that he stands will get him to the ride faster. Sorry about this! I always say something to him about it. This is my normal spiel:

Ds are you with that family (the one he is invading their space), he normally responds no, than I say then come back with us please.

He will come back with us, but he tends to normally creep back up and almost every other line we get into - the same thing!

Sorry again - we are in training right now!

Just for the records, I can't stand personal space invaders. (Makes me think of the Seinfeld episode with Judd Hirsh - I think it was him.)

 

[wkrider]

Could not have said it better myself.....