Food4Less?

This is seriously such a helpful post for this new San Diegan in my regular life! We’ve been killing our wallets grocery shopping... really missing our HEB back in Texas. We are stuck with Ralph’s or Vonn’s in our neighborhood, but there’s an Aldi and a Stater Bros not too far away, and we have Food 4 Less too. May have to branch out!

Download Albertsons/Von's app. There's tons of coupons, many of which vary among users. It's pretty laboring, but you can save big by using it (for example, almost every week we get a $5 off $50 - or similar - coupon). Also, when the price is low, considering getting an Entertainment book. You get a free subscription to the app -- which you can use around the country -- and every Ralph's store has a $5 off $50 coupon. Last year, it reset monthly, although I hear it's changing this year... either quarterly or not at all. There's also a few coupons in the book that can be redeemed at any Ralph's. The book expires 12-31, as does the app subscription. (Sadly, many of my favorite merchants that have participated for years withdrew from 2020, but it's still worth buying... you can get the books/subscription for about $10 shipped, and don't forget your e Bates cash back which will eventually rebate you a couple bucks or so.)

Also consider the ethic markets... I'm not as familiar with San Diego, but in Los Angeles/Orange County/Inland Empire, savings can be huge, although quality can be pretty poor so choose carefully! 99 Cent Only store also sells a good selection of typically reject produce at rock bottom pricing. It's also a fun place to find bargains on discontinued or overstock grocery products. They typically receive their new shipments on Friday - it's a guilty pleasure of mine!

Smart and Final is also worth checking out... S&F is different -- stores are typically smaller, feature less grocery selection/variety and use warehouse shelving. Some stores feature a full-service meat counter, but none have service delis or bakeries (but they do carry store-made products). Their private label grocery, produce and meat prices are comparable to Walmart. In the past, they had the best produce in the area, but my last few visits have been disappointing... not sure if this is the new norm (they were sold to a private equity firm recently) or just poor luck.

Stater Bros. has cheaper pricing on branded groceries than Ralphs and Vons/Albertsons, but not as cheap as Walmart etc. Produce & meat quality and pricing is better than Ralphs and Vons/Albertsons, but they don't have the loss leaders those chains do.

Native San Diegan here. I shop 90% at Trader Joe’s now that there is pretty much one in every neighborhood here. Occasionally, they won’t have some things, it’s usually a specific spice. I go to Vons for those things. I have experienced the opposite of what the poster above said, Vons and their now “sister” store Albertsons have better prices than Ralph’s here, with Albertsons having the lower of the three. I tried Food4Less a couple years ago and Aldi when it first opened, but was very disappointed in their produce selection. We buy primarily organic and they just didn’t stock enough of it to make it worth shopping there.

In 1999, Albertsons acquired American Stores (owners of Lucky), making it the largest grocery in the country. Albertsons, which had minimal presence in CA, became #1 in SoCal and #2 in NoCal, just barely behind Safeway for the #1 spot. The merger was a total disaster for a multitude of reasons. Within six years, the Company had completely exited NoCal and closed half of its SoCal stores; it was split into multiple new ownership groups. In the mid-2010s, a private equity firm re-acquired the split Albertsons as well as Safeway. The merger was pursued for pricing power (the combined Albertsons-Safeway operation has FEWER stores than Albertsons alone had in 2000) as well as Safeway's manufacturing facilities and private label contracts - by this point, Albertsons had none of its own and instead relied on expensive licensing agreements.

In SoCal, Albertsons and Vons now have unified products and pricing; they're the same chain but they're reluctant to consolidate under a single name. Kroger is undergoing a rebranding campaign, and said it considered re-branding all of its core chains (e.g. Ralphs, Frys, Smith's, etc.) under the Kroger banner, but decided it was best not to, referencing the exodus of consumers when Lucky was rebranded Albertsons. I'm cetain Albertsons feels the same way! Safeway also invested billions of dollars into heavily renovating Vons locations, which included the installation of new furniture and fixtures. SoCal Albertsons saw a fraction of that investment, and aren't nearly as nice as Vons or Ralphs (which received a similar investment as Vons).

Ralphs' everyday pricing is cheaper than Albertsons/Vons. This is not a guess :). Both chains purchase a similar grade of produce, but over the long run, you'll save more by shopping at Ralphs. Sale pricing at both chains is similar, but Albertsons/Vons typically have deeper discounts on a few loss leaders (most commonly, a few cuts of meat and beverages such as soda and bottled water). Trader Joe's has decent pricing and a solid selection of unique and trendy goods, but anybody who buys primarily meat and produce and thinks they're saving money by shopping here is fooling themselves.
 
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Native San Diegan here. I shop 90% at Trader Joe’s now that there is pretty much one in every neighborhood here. Occasionally, they won’t have some things, it’s usually a specific spice. I go to Vons for those things. I have experienced the opposite of what the poster above said, Vons and their now “sister” store Albertsons have better prices than Ralph’s here, with Albertsons having the lower of the three. I tried Food4Less a couple years ago and Aldi when it first opened, but was very disappointed in their produce selection. We buy primarily organic and they just didn’t stock enough of it to make it worth shopping there.

People have told me, I have no idea if this is true, that different Vons in different neighborhoods have different prices. I’ve found Vons to be higher, because I’ve compared prices there with my Ralph’s app. Ralph’s is cheaper than TJ when you can buy the Kroger brand, but I’ve also price checked TJ’s and Ralph’s and TJ’s was mostly cheaper. I can’t buy everything I need at TJ’s.... but we love their produce.
 
People have told me, I have no idea if this is true, that different Vons in different neighborhoods have different prices. I’ve found Vons to be higher, because I’ve compared prices there with my Ralph’s app. Ralph’s is cheaper than TJ when you can buy the Kroger brand, but I’ve also price checked TJ’s and Ralph’s and TJ’s was mostly cheaper. I can’t buy everything I need at TJ’s.... but we love their produce.

Different pricing in different neighborhoods for both Vons and Ralph’s is 100% true. When we lived in University Heights, the Ralph’s across the Vermont Street Bridge had noticeably different pricing than the Ralph’s by SDSU. Same with Vons. I work in Liberty Station and the Vons there has significant price variations from the one near our neighborhood by SDSU. And then if you cross over the 94 to the Albertsons in Lemon Grove, the prices are even better, at least produce-wise (but their organic selection is much smaller). At TJs, the prices are consistent across all their stores in the area, and on their items throughout the year. The biggest price changes I see there are with berries, but that happens at all grocery stores. Admittedly, my primary grocery shopping experience involves a lot of produce, legumes, and fish. We don’t eat processed foods besides cereal in the morning and the delicious black bean taquitos from TJs. I think everyone’s grocery bills differ on what you primarily purchase. SD is great because, once you find your store in the neighborhood that sells all the things you like at a price that works for you, you are set. My husband is pescatarian, and my daughter and I aren’t vegetarians, but we are dairy-free due to my daughter’s allergy. We try to limit ourselves to 1 meat meal a week, it’s just easier with a pescatarian in the house. At least with TJ’s, our grocery bill is nearly the same every week.

Sorry OP for the derail. Sprouts is your best bet for a wide variety of vegan options. Or you can order from Whole Foods through Prime Now.
 
Different pricing in different neighborhoods for both Vons and Ralph’s is 100% true. When we lived in University Heights, the Ralph’s across the Vermont Street Bridge had noticeably different pricing than the Ralph’s by SDSU. Same with Vons. I work in Liberty Station and the Vons there has significant price variations from the one near our neighborhood by SDSU. And then if you cross over the 94 to the Albertsons in Lemon Grove, the prices are even better, at least produce-wise (but their organic selection is much smaller). At TJs, the prices are consistent across all their stores in the area, and on their items throughout the year. The biggest price changes I see there are with berries, but that happens at all grocery stores. Admittedly, my primary grocery shopping experience involves a lot of produce, legumes, and fish. We don’t eat processed foods besides cereal in the morning and the delicious black bean taquitos from TJs. I think everyone’s grocery bills differ on what you primarily purchase. SD is great because, once you find your store in the neighborhood that sells all the things you like at a price that works for you, you are set. My husband is pescatarian, and my daughter and I aren’t vegetarians, but we are dairy-free due to my daughter’s allergy. We try to limit ourselves to 1 meat meal a week, it’s just easier with a pescatarian in the house. At least with TJ’s, our grocery bill is nearly the same every week.

Sorry OP for the derail. Sprouts is your best bet for a wide variety of vegan options. Or you can order from Whole Foods through Prime Now.

While Ralphs and Albertsons/Vons use to have different pricing at different stores within the same market, Kroger abandoned the practice chainwidei in the mid-2000s and Albertsons followed within the past few years. Thus, you'll pay the same regardless of where you shop. The competitive pressures from Walmart are too much ;).

And while you're right that everybody's grocery bill differs, there are certainly generalizations that can be made. For example, for mainstream markets, Albertsons/Vons "everyday pricing" is priced the highest, while Walmart's is priced the lowest (I'm not including F4L or Winco - if one's nearby, they will be cheaper). If you shop around sale prices, using coupons and the "Just4You" app, you'd pay less at Albertsons/Vons than you would at Walmart over the course of the year. Of course, this isn't practical for everybody -- shopping around sale prices requires stocking up, spending more when prices are low and spending less when prices are high. Not everybody has the income stream to do this; others may lack sufficient pantry and/or fridge-freezer space. And of course, the process is laboring, and those who place a higher value on their time (people with high incomes) won't do this.

When it comes to grocery shopping, a lot of people rely more on perception than facts. Trader Joe's is a great example of this - gone are the days when it was a low-price leader. While its prices on core products (bananas, milk, etc.) typically still are (or close to it at least), its pricing on fresh groceries (meat, produce, dairy, etc.) is no better than Ralphs or Albertsons/Vons -- and those chains offer promotional pricing at TJ's won't touch. But some people swear by TJ's and that's perfectly okay :).
 

Download Albertsons/Von's app. There's tons of coupons, many of which vary among users. It's pretty laboring, but you can save big by using it (for example, almost every week we get a $5 off $50 - or similar - coupon). Also, when the price is low, considering getting an Entertainment book. You get a free subscription to the app -- which you can use around the country -- and every Ralph's store has a $5 off $50 coupon. Last year, it reset monthly, although I hear it's changing this year... either quarterly or not at all. There's also a few coupons in the book that can be redeemed at any Ralph's. The book expires 12-31, as does the app subscription. (Sadly, many of my favorite merchants that have participated for years withdrew from 2020, but it's still worth buying... you can get the books/subscription for about $10 shipped, and don't forget your e Bates cash back which will eventually rebate you a couple bucks or so.)

Also consider the ethic markets... I'm not as familiar with San Diego, but in Los Angeles/Orange County/Inland Empire, savings can be huge, although quality can be pretty poor so choose carefully! 99 Cent Only store also sells a good selection of typically reject produce at rock bottom pricing. It's also a fun place to find bargains on discontinued or overstock grocery products. They typically receive their new shipments on Friday - it's a guilty pleasure of mine!

Smart and Final is also worth checking out... S&F is different -- stores are typically smaller, feature less grocery selection/variety and use warehouse shelving. Some stores feature a full-service meat counter, but none have service delis or bakeries (but they do carry store-made products). Their private label grocery, produce and meat prices are comparable to Walmart. In the past, they had the best produce in the area, but my last few visits have been disappointing... not sure if this is the new norm (they were sold to a private equity firm recently) or just poor luck.

Stater Bros. has cheaper pricing on branded groceries than Ralphs and Vons/Albertsons, but not as cheap as Walmart etc. Produce & meat quality and pricing is better than Ralphs and Vons/Albertsons, but they don't have the loss leaders those chains do.



In 1999, Albertsons acquired American Stores (owners of Lucky), making it the largest grocery in the country. Albertsons, which had minimal presence in CA, became #1 in SoCal and #2 in NoCal, just barely behind Safeway for the #1 spot. The merger was a total disaster for a multitude of reasons. Within six years, the Company had completely exited NoCal and closed half of its SoCal stores; it was split into multiple new ownership groups. In the mid-2010s, a private equity firm re-acquired the split Albertsons as well as Safeway. The merger was pursued for pricing power (the combined Albertsons-Safeway operation has FEWER stores than Albertsons alone had in 2000) as well as Safeway's manufacturing facilities and private label contracts - by this point, Albertsons had none of its own and instead relied on expensive licensing agreements.

The Lucky brand is back in my area, but it’s Save Mart licensing it from Albertsons. It’s a lot of Save Mart house brands like Sunnyside Farms. They haven’t brought back Lucky house brands (like Lady Lee).
 


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