Foo Fighters..AIDS denialists

The organization is listed with a link on the foo fighter's website but it is a ways down on the list. I decided that before I comment, I should look at the site of Alive & Well. While I do not agree with the some of the conclusions they have drawn, I do appreciate the fact that they have done research and site very legitimate sources.

Remember, there is a large group who believe the "Cure" for cancer is worse than the disease. This group seems to claim two things, that HIV positive does not mean you will get AIDS. CDC has been saying that since the 90's, and that is true. They are also saying that the drugs perscribed to treat HIV are poisons and that there are other modalities available.

I am a strong believer in Natural medicine first, then go to drugs. My initial review of the site seems to be that they are saying that also.
 
Got any proof more recent than 1 news article over 5 years old written by Joe Shmoe Nobody???

I saw the Foo Fighters in concert 3 times in my life, April 3rd 1996, July 7th 1997 and September 15th 1999 - never once did I get such a pamphlet or any mention of this... this article was written a mere 5 months after the last time I saw them and I would defintely remember being given any sort of information such as that...

Just by checking out the alive and well DOT org website which is listed under their causes section, it's not denying the existence of AIDS... it's alternative thinkings and treatments.
 
I don't think it's so great to call fellow DISers tools or fools or make fun of their posts either. That's called flaming someone if I'm not mistaken.

The Foo Fighters started this and as far as I know have never printed any other opinion. But I never made a big deal out of it because I don't really care what they think.
 
Good thing I'm too danged old too listen to their music. And I certainly won't be starting anytime soon. What a bunch of idiots...how irresponsible of them to share this lie with young people. :crazy2:
 

what's scary is they have a platrform to share their oppinions and they are speaking to people in the age range most likely to want to believe what they're saying.
 
JennyMominRI said:
This was brought up by me on the Boycott thread...As so many were unaware I figured more people might see it if it gets it's own threads..The FooFighters are AIDS denialists..Among othetr things they believe there is no such disease as AIDS..That people who claim to have AIDS are drug addicts or people who are sick from the AIDS meds...They encourage people Not to get tested for HIV. They pass out literature at their concerts and have links on their web-site to groups that among other things,tell people with AIDS they don't need to have safe sex as there is no such disease as AIDS

Here is one of many articles avaible on the net

News: A platinum-selling alt-rock group may be endangering their fans by promoting a dangerous myth.

By Silja J.A. Talvi

February 25, 2000


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Some rock stars want to free Tibet. Others want to save Mumia. The Foo Fighters, on the other hand, want their fans to ignore accepted medical wisdom about AIDS.

The multimillion-album-selling alternative rock outfit has thrown its weight behind Alive and Well, an "alternative AIDS information group" that denies any link between HIV and AIDS. In January, Foo Fighters bassist Nate Mendel helped organize a sold-out concert in Hollywood to benefit the group. Foo fans were treated to a speech by Alive and Well founder Christine Maggiore, who believes AIDS may be caused by HIV-related medications, anal sex, stress, and drug use, and implies that people should not get tested for HIV nor take medications to counter the virus. Free copies of Maggiore's self-published book, "What If Everything You Thought You Knew About AIDS Was Wrong?," in which she declares "there is no proof that HIV causes AIDS," were also passed out to the concert-goers.

HIV experts are alarmed by the possible impact of the Foo Fighters' embrace of Maggiore's theories on their potentially gullible young fans.

"Clearly, more research is needed on the factors that contribute to HIV infection and the development of AIDS," says Dorcus Crumbley of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for HIV, STD, and TB Prevention. "However, the conclusions of more than two decades of epidemiologic, virologic, and medical research are that HIV infection is transmissible through sexual contact, injecting drug use, perinatally, and from receiving blood or blood products ... (and) the scientific evidence is overwhelming that HIV is the cause of AIDS."

Adds Crumbley: "The myth that HIV is not the primary cause of AIDS ... could cause (HIV-positive people) to reject treatment critical for their own health and for preventing transmission to others."

"When it comes to such a complex health topic, it behooves the band to have really researched what they are endorsing," says Diane Tanaka, an attending physician at the Children's Hospital of Los Angeles, where she works with a large population of high-risk and HIV-infected low-income youth. "(The Foo Fighters) have a big responsibility in terms of (their) public role and the impact that they can have on young people. Is this band willing to take responsibility for a young person engaging in risky, unprotected sex because of information they've gotten from the (Foo Fighters) or from Alive and Well?"

Alive and Well is one of several fringe groups that deny a link between HIV and AIDS. Similar theories have been put forth over the years by various far-right groups and anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists, and other so-called "HIV-refuseniks."

"Your risk of being hit by lightning is greater than that of contracting HIV through a one-time random sexual contact with someone you don't know here in America," says Maggiore, an HIV-positive Southern California resident with no formal training in medicine or the sciences. "And if (a young person) were to get a positive diagnosis, that does not mean they've been infected with HIV." The HIV-AIDS connection, maintains Maggiore, has been promoted by greedy drug companies.

Mendel says he was won over by Maggiore's book, and passed it around to the rest of the band, which includes former Nirvana drummer Dave Grohl. Mendel says that he would steer anyone considering an HIV antibody test toward Maggiore's group.

"If you test positive, you are pretty much given a bleak outlook and told to take toxic drugs to possibly ward off new infections," says Mendel.

With the other band members on board, Mendel aims to use the Foo Fighters' celebrity to get the message out to a broad audience. The Foo Fighters plan additional benefit shows, and have placed a banner ad on their Web site linking to Alive and Well. Mendel says that he does not have HIV, nor does he have any friends with HIV besides Maggiore, who has remained asymptomatic.

The most recent numbers from the Joint United Nations' HIV/AIDS Program estimate that 16.3 million people worldwide have died of AIDS-related causes since 1981. Medical research in the United States indicates that as many as 25 percent of the nation's estimated 40,000 annual HIV infections occur among 13- to 21-year-olds. Maggiore, however, maintains that worldwide HIV infections and AIDS deaths are exaggerated by the CDC and the World Health Organization, even in regions like sub-Saharan Africa, where two-thirds of the world's HIV-infected people live.

Maggiore's message has apparently penetrated the minds of at least some Foo aficionados. She says she has heard from many Foo fans since the show -- one of whom, she says, now works at the Alive and Well office.

"AIDS is a toxic disease caused by either long-term recreational drug abuse or short-term anti-HIV medications," writes a 22-year-old member of the Alive and Well-affiliated Students Reappraising AIDS on the Foo Fighters' Web-based message board. "HIV is not spread sexually, nor is it the cause of any disease."

Other fans are less impressed. Damian Purdy, a 21-year-old Winnipeg, Canada resident and devoted Foo Fighters fan, is outraged by the band's position. "By supporting this, the Foo Fighters have entered an arena that they have no business being in. The truth is that a rock concert is not the appropriate platform for these views to be expressed. I think the Foo Fighters have more influence than they realize," he says.

For his part, Mendel remains convinced that the media and the medical establishment are keeping the truth about HIV and AIDS from the public. The Foo Fighters, he insists, will continue to use their celebrity to bring "light to the issue."

Is he worried that the group might be endangering the lives of some of its listeners?


"I'm absolutely confident that I'm doing the right thing," Mendel answers. "No, I wouldn't feel responsible for possibly harming somebody. I (feel) I'm doing the opposite

OK, this might be the scariest thing I have ever heard! :scared: :eek: :scared1: :cold:
 
Lovely. This reminds me of back when AIDS was first being recognized that it was being described as being 'a gay disease'.

Suzanne
 
Okay Okay everyone just calm down for a minute. Lets not start pointing fingers and being ignorant to people. If this is a false article then take the neccessary steps to prove it.

I have always been a fan of the Foo Fighters mostly because I have loved Dave Grohl since the days of Nirvana. Most of my friends are big time fans and they read everything they can get theirs hands on - I've never heard them mention this considering it would have been a lengthy discussion.

I checked out the Foo Fighters offical site and there is not links or information about this organization.

~Amanda
 
septbride2002 said:
I checked out the Foo Fighters offical site and there is not links or information about this organization.

~Amanda

Actually there is under causes, as I said in my earlier post, it is quite a ways down on the list. I clicked the link too.

Again, reading the link for myself, it doesn't sound like claims are any more outrageous that some of the claims from people with cancer.
 
halestrm said:
Actually there is under causes, as I said in my earlier post, it is quite a ways down on the list. I clicked the link too.

Again, reading the link for myself, it doesn't sound like claims are any more outrageous that some of the claims from people with cancer.

Sorry I was looking more in the articles and bios sections to see if they claimed affiliation there.

Here is the link Alive and Well.

~Amanda
 
Ok, so 5 years ago one member of the Foo Fighters jumped on the Alive and Well bandwagon. He asked for a link on his bands website, which he was granted. The link is on a page that you have to click through 3 pages to get to.

At an Alive and Well benefit concert 5 years ago that one member of Foo Fighters was part of, anti-aids/hiv litature was passed out and we all should freak out and boycott the Foo Fighters?

Since when does gathing and knowing the information from both sides of an issue make someone an idiot?
 
snoopy said:
Good thing I'm too danged old too listen to their music. And I certainly won't be starting anytime soon. What a bunch of idiots...how irresponsible of them to share this lie with young people. :crazy2:

Tiggeroo said:
what's scary is they have a platrform to share their oppinions and they are speaking to people in the age range most likely to want to believe what they're saying.

Poohnatic said:
Lovely. This reminds me of back when AIDS was first being recognized that it was being described as being 'a gay disease'.


Please read the rest of the thread before replying to the first thing you see... By reading further you would see that this is not the case at all. This is how people become mis-informed, walk around with incorrect knowledge known to them as fact and spread untrue rumours. :rolleyes:

Just by checking out the Alive and Well website which is listed under their causes section, it's not denying the existence of AIDS... it's alternative thinkings and treatments to AIDS. It's doesn't sound much different than the way cancer patients look for alternative ways of dealing with their disease.

Like I said earlier in this thread... I saw the Foo Fighters in concert 3 times in my life, April 3rd 1996, July 7th 1997 and September 15th 1999 - never once did I get such a pamphlet or any mention of this... this article was written a mere 5 months after the last time I saw them and I would defintely remember being given any sort of information such as that!!!
 

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