Flying w/ Toddler - Juice?

[suffolkprincess]

Our local airport, ORF (Norfolk) was not as strict as MCO.

I had my fluids/gels in a big freezer ziploc bag (I know nothing when it comes to what a gallon bag is vs. a 2 gal bag-- terrible with those measures) and at ORF no problem. Also, I had an empty sippy, and ORF just asked me if it was empty and took my word for it (it was in the side pouch of DD's backpack.)

At MCO, I had to go buy a truly gallon size bag (mine was too big-- and even though I had two tubes of lipgloss in there, TOTAL, I *had* to have thr right size bag...) AND they inspected the empty sippy cup.

annoying, but,-- keeps us safe.

I flew SW and the flight attendants made a point of getting drinks for the kids' cups right away, even as early as pre-board.

HTH.

 

[Grand fan]

Thanks for the info and the website.

 

[NotUrsula]

I had my fluids/gels in a big freezer ziploc bag (I know nothing when it comes to what a gallon bag is vs. a 2 gal bag-- terrible with those measures) and at ORF no problem. ... At MCO, I had to go buy a truly gallon size bag (mine was too big-- and even though I had two tubes of lipgloss in there, TOTAL, I *had* to have thr right size bag...) AND they inspected the empty sippy cup.

... And you're STILL confused. GALLON ZIPLOCS ARE NOT ALLOWED for toiletries in carryons. If a gallon bag is too big, obviously a 2-gallon bag is also going to be too big. The bag you had to purchase was a QUART.

You don't need to do any measures to figure out what size bag is correct; the box is labeled with the size when you buy it. In the US, you buy a box of 1 Quart bags. Outside the US, you buy a box of 1 Litre bags. I am absolutely mystified why literate people find it so difficult to get the proper size bag.

(Note that this doesn't mean that I think it makes any material difference to safety if the bag is a different size, but that isn't the point here. The point is that the TSA rule is that the bag needs to be quart-sized, so that is what you buy for the purpose.) A box of baggies is all of about $2 -- just put all the spares inside of one of them and store the empties in your carryon, where you'll always have them handy for travel.

 

[suffolkprincess]

... And you're STILL confused. GALLON ZIPLOCS ARE NOT ALLOWED for toiletries in carryons. If a gallon bag is too big, obviously a 2-gallon bag is also going to be too big. The bag you had to purchase was a QUART.

You don't need to do any measures to figure out what size bag is correct; the box is labeled with the size when you buy it. In the US, you buy a box of 1 Quart bags. Outside the US, you buy a box of 1 Litre bags. I am absolutely mystified why literate people find it so difficult to get the proper size bag.

(Note that this doesn't mean that I think it makes any material difference to safety if the bag is a different size, but that isn't the point here. The point is that the TSA rule is that the bag needs to be quart-sized, so that is what you buy for the purpose.) A box of baggies is all of about $2 -- just put all the spares inside of one of them and store the empties in your carryon, where you'll always have them handy for travel.

SEE!! That is exactly what I mean. I have (no doubt) *read* "quart-sized" and my brain processes "gallon." Wish I knew why I have this mental block-- because I have no problem picturing what a 3oz bottle/tube would look like.

But yes-- your info IS correct.

ALSO-- if anyone doesn't buy baggies at home, or needs a new one, the newstand adjacent to security at MCO sells them for 27 cents each.

 

[jenseib]

Why should it matter what size bag we bring on? I never even knew this was an issue. If I put stuff in a baggy, I would've never evne checked to see as this to me is absolutely stupid. Is there a safety issue related to this?

 

[tjmw2727]

Why should it matter what size bag we bring on? I never even knew this was an issue. If I put stuff in a baggy, I would've never evne checked to see as this to me is absolutely stupid. Is there a safety issue related to this?

Check the TSA website as yes they are very strict about liquids and gels.

The safety issue is a result of the plan to mix liquids to make a bomb onboard an aircraft late summer. Just after the incident in August they banned liquids and gels alltogether. Now you may carry on liquids and gels only in quantities under 3.4oz and only in a clear quart size ziplock. The zip lock is to make it easier on the TSA agents. You must place all your liquids and gels (3.4oz or less) into a quart size zip lock bag. The bag must be placed on the belt by itself, not left in your carryon.

The new motto is 3-1-1. Three oz, one zip lock and one per passenger.

Again - all the information you need is spelled out here:
http://www.tsa.gov/311/index.shtm

TJ

 

[Kuffam]

So I could bring an empty water bottle through security, fill it at the gate, and bring it on the plane?

 

[tjmw2727]

So I could bring an empty water bottle through security, fill it at the gate, and bring it on the plane?

Yes - you can. Or you can just purchase a bottle of water, soda or juice at the concessions after security and bring that onboard. Most major airports have several places that will sell sandwiches, beverages and such to bring onboard.

TJ

 

[jenseib]

I understand about the liquids. I don't understand about the bags. What does it matter what size bag you use.

 

[NotUrsula]

I understand about the liquids. I don't understand about the bags. What does it matter what size bag you use.

It matters because TSA is run on a "rules-is-rules" mentality, and they get to decide what the rules are. If the manual says quart or litre, then that is the ONLY thing they will let through. Bring a different size (or no bag at all) and you will be forced to dump your toiletries.

This is just like all those times when your child's teacher said that the folder for math homework must be blue, and have two pockets and no metal prongs. They want what they want, and they have the power in this transaction. Logic is irrelevant.

 

[suffolkprincess]

I understand about the liquids. I don't understand about the bags. What does it matter what size bag you use.

My husband specualted that it might be related to either net liquid amounts (in other words, the net amount of liquid that could be in a bag that small would not be able to cause an explosion even if contraband liquids made it onboard in 3.4 oz cleverly disguised containers) OR that it could be the fact that a bag that size could not be used to suffocate an adult, or at least not as easily as a larger one could.