first DVC reservation.... no pixie dust offered...

[jamelynn24]

We purchased on March 27, 2012. Before signing the papers, our guide said that she could get us into BCV from June 1-7 for our first DVC vacation! She explained that they like to do what they can to get us whatever we want for our first trip. We were very pleased....and signed the papers!!

 

[Minniesgal]

We own at AKV and notice the rooms for August booked up in days at 7 months. I guess once it is booked it is booked and there is not much your guide can them do

 

[Pikezh638]

Well your experience must be better than my first DVC visit. My dad's name and mine are the same, and I got "dropped" off my reservation that I made 11 months out, made all the reservations myself, and set up everything under my name. It was a wonderful 1-2 hour wait while they cancelled our entire trip and rebooked everything.

It all worked out, but it was very... unfortunate.

 

[Mommy2TwoMickeys]

I called MS and just got a normal agent and told her we were wanting to see what was available (I mentioned that we had not closed yet so we couldn't check online). She asked what our dream reservation would be - I told her (knowing there was no way it could be available, like BWV during F&W) and she put me on hold...came back a few minutes later and said she was able to secure it.

Now frankly I don't know how this works, but they only thing I can think of is that they are taking rooms out of inventory that Disney owns and converting them to points - but what do I know.

She did say, this was a one time thing, the room wasn't available for points reservation and don't expect it again, but that they wanted to make our first reservation special.No guide involvement and I didn't ask for it....just offered.


This may be one of those things that they can offer under very specific conditions.

So I am confused....Not ALL rooms at the Villas can be booked with points

Ex. If I went on the website now and checked availability for BWV in October, there are rooms available. (I cannot check the DVC website because I am officially not a member yet..Contract is currently in Disney waiting ROFR) I was trying to maybe plan a trip for F&W and was curious as to availability, but your saying that even though the rooms are available on the regular website does not mean that they will be available on the DVC sight

 

[vdub322]

I think Disney holds back some villas for cash reservations, but I could be wrong. I would be pretty annoyed to drop tons of money on my DVC membership, not get the accommodations I was hoping for, only to see the room offered on the Disney site to someone who didn't make the investment.

We had a cash trip booked in January 2012 when we started looking into DVC. We made the choice to purchase DVC in February and our sales rep booked us 6 nights in a Lake View 1 BR at BLT for April 2012. I know that I could not have done that myself.

 

[bwang123]

So I am confused....Not ALL rooms at the Villas can be booked with points

Ex. If I went on the website now and checked availability for BWV in October, there are rooms available. (I cannot check the DVC website because I am officially not a member yet..Contract is currently in Disney waiting ROFR) I was trying to maybe plan a trip for F&W and was curious as to availability, but your saying that even though the rooms are available on the regular website does not mean that they will be available on the DVC sight

if you are on the main disney website and not dvc, you are looking at boardwalk inn not villa. different inventory.

 

[Minniesgal]

When a BWV owner cashes out and uses DCL or the concierge collection DVc has to pay for that reservation so they convert room for the equivalent number of points to the cash inventory and sell it for cash. If you look on WDW and see villas available for cash these will not be available through DVC as it is different inventory and DVC will need to get cash for these rooms

 

[Mommy2TwoMickeys]

if you are on the main disney website and not dvc, you are looking at boardwalk inn not villa. different inventory.

I selected the villas though. It showed studios, and I think 2 bedrooms available. This was last week though so availability may have changed, but I know for sure that it was not the boardwalk inn.

 

[vdub322]

I selected the villas though. It showed studios, and I think 2 bedrooms available. This was last week though so availability may have changed, but I know for sure that it was not the boardwalk inn.

Yes, you are right. Villas are available on the main Disney site, not just the inn. I've seen them offered on there quite a bit.

 

[Sandisw]

I selected the villas though. It showed studios, and I think 2 bedrooms available. This was last week though so availability may have changed, but I know for sure that it was not the boardwalk inn.

Yes, Disney owns DVC rooms and what you are seeing is their inventory. You may also be seeing the inventory from members who have traded out their points for cruises, etc. in addition, there are rooms sent to Disney considered breakage, at the 60 day mark, to rent for cash...that money comes back to DVC..

So, what you are seeing through Disney is not what is available for points booking.

 

[Deb & Bill]

So I am confused....Not ALL rooms at the Villas can be booked with points

Ex. If I went on the website now and checked availability for BWV in October, there are rooms available. (I cannot check the DVC website because I am officially not a member yet..Contract is currently in Disney waiting ROFR) I was trying to maybe plan a trip for F&W and was curious as to availability, but your saying that even though the rooms are available on the regular website does not mean that they will be available on the DVC sight

I think Disney holds back some villas for cash reservations, but I could be wrong. I would be pretty annoyed to drop tons of money on my DVC membership, not get the accommodations I was hoping for, only to see the room offered on the Disney site to someone who didn't make the investment.

We had a cash trip booked in January 2012 when we started looking into DVC. We made the choice to purchase DVC in February and our sales rep booked us 6 nights in a Lake View 1 BR at BLT for April 2012. I know that I could not have done that myself.

Disney doesn't hold out rooms for cash reservations. There are two pools of DVC inventory. Cash reservations and points reservations. And they seldom. if ever, change from one to the other.

What happens is that DVC owns points, that haven been sold yet, or taken from ROFR or repossessions, or the percentage they keep when a resort is sold (2.5 to 4% of the total), and those are given to Disney Reservation Center to be sold for cash. Plus members trade out their points for DCL and other non-DVC Disney stays (like Adv by Disney or Disney hotels). DVC has to pay for those trips (they aren't given to DVC for free), so DVC takes the equivalent number of points as the cash trip and turns those over to DRC to sell so the members' non-DVC Disney trip can be paid for. These will never be used for points.

When a member trades their points for a non-DVC stay, those points have already been used for a reservation. They cannot be used for a DVC reservation a second time. So those rooms you see available on the DRC site, stay on that site and you cannot use points for those stays.

Plus at 60 days out, DVC turns over any points inventory to DRC to sell. They can call those stays back if a member trys to book at less than 60 days out, but only if it hasn't been sold for cash already.

 

[Deb & Bill]

if you are on the main disney website and not dvc, you are looking at boardwalk inn not villa. different inventory.

No, you can book BWV for cash through DRC.

 

[disneynutz]

I selected the villas though. It showed studios, and I think 2 bedrooms available. This was last week though so availability may have changed, but I know for sure that it was not the boardwalk inn.

Yes Disney retains ownership of DVC units and they are not available for point bookings.

Yes they gain additional DVC inventory when an owner trades to a non-DVC booking, those units are not available for point bookings.

60 days prior to any given date, inventory not booked on points is turned over to Disney for cash bookings. Depending on who you talk to, sometimes that inventory can be brought back for a point booking.

Bill

 

[Dean]

Yes Disney retains ownership of DVC units and they are not available for point bookings.

Yes they gain additional DVC inventory when an owner trades to a non-DVC booking, those units are not available for point bookings.

60 days prior to any given date, inventory not booked on points is turned over to Disney for cash bookings. Depending on who you talk to, sometimes that inventory can be brought back for a point booking.

Bill

Bill, that's only true for undeclared inventory such as a new resort in active sales. That logic does not apply to any unsold 2-4% that DVC may hold back. Now they may reserve t 11 months out using their points and use for rentals and they can reserve at any time for trade points for cash. They can also anticipate breakage inventory back to 11 months out. They they don't hold undeclared portions of sold out resorts that are not potentially available to owners at that resort.

 

[vahousewife]

Can someone please help!!! I messed up my first Reservation and now have 21 points I cannot use and cannot bank what can I do with them? Sorry I have not been a member long enough to start a new thread THANKS

 

[Deb & Bill]

Can someone please help!!! I messed up my first Reservation and now have 21 points I cannot use and cannot bank what can I do with them? Sorry I have not been a member long enough to start a new thread THANKS

Add another night. Make another reservation borrowing points from next year for a short stay. If they are not banked points, you might be able to transfer them to another member. Or make a small reservation for someone using your 21 points.

 

[eandesmom]

We had pixie dust but the reservation (VB) was booked prior to closing, at about 6 months out. I had to change the dates though and at that point my rep couldn't do it, had to call MS.

I would definitely book elsewhere and keep your AkV waitlist but it does depend in what you were trying to book. If it was value or concierge I wouldn't expect they could pull that kind of magic but WL for other categories should have a good chance. We booked a couple of August nights last year at 4months out, changed room size at 2 and then did a WL for Jambo instead of Kidani and it came thru very quickly.

Waitlisting a a split stay can increase you chances as well.