Fibromyalgia Thread

Happy New Year!!
Just thought I would check in. Does anyone here eliminate certain foods from their diets? Do you find relief? I am trying to live a healthy life style and have started removing foods.

Also, just wondering if some people notice that you fibro is worse during that time of month? I am having a high fibro day. This morning even touching my scalp hurt.

Thanks all!

YES!...Well it wasnt always this way but as I entered peri menopause in my early 40's I noticed more and more that two weeks before I felt completely off, like I fell off a cliff and agrivated. I never had pms before so I refer to this a my fibro pms. It took me about a year to figure this out as my fibro has always been irratic to some degree.
 
Hi everyone :wave2:

I apologise for not posting sooner. I have been reading the DIS a little here and there, but not posting much.

I started my new job on the Monday after Thanksgiving, and I am totally exhausted every single day (and night!).

I work 6pm - midnight, and don't get to sleep until around 1:30am. Then I get up at around 6:30am with DH to see him a little before he leaves for work, then we chat on the cell phones while he's driving in to work. Then I usually fall back to sleep, and sleep most of the day away. :(

I start getting ready and dressed for work at 5pm, I leave around 5:30pm, and before that, I have to try and make something to leave for dinner for DH and DSs.

Fortunately they aren't picky, so I just make/leave easy things for them to eat. Once in a while I actually cook a meal. LOL

Anyway, the exhaustion is from the fibromyalgia. It really stinks to be so exhausted all of the time. Fortunately I'm ok during the 6 hours of work in the evening, since that's generally always been my best part of the day.

The job is ok; I'm working for a company taking orders for products from people calling in. It's mainly a company selling wigs, and women's apparel. I like the job itself, even the occasional grumpy customer. LOL The job is physically comfortable, which as I'm sure all of you can relate to, is important. And it's only a 10-minute drive which is great. :)

These days most of my pain is coming from dental work that I need to follow up on. I really need to schedule appointments for the dentist and then KEEP the appointments. In the last couple of months I've ended up cancelling due to exhaustion on the day of the appt. :/

:welcome: to all of the new posters. This really is a wonderful thread, and I do want to contribute on a more regular basis. Just having people who understand what you're going through is such a great thing.

*hugs* to all of you. :grouphug: And pixiedust of course. pixiedust:

Sorry about all your pain. I know what you mean about getting to the Drs/dentist. I need to get back to my dentist since Sept but just cant fit it in. I also need to see gyn and dermatologist for cancer screening, mamogram etc. Really need to make about 5 checks of one sort or another but I only have 2-3 hrs a day to get things done and just never feel up to going so I put them off. Some I really should have done several years ago:crazy2:. I'm best from about 2-5pm which is good because this is the busy time in my kids schedules but I cant go to the dr and get my kids from school at the same time so I put it off. If I could get my meds without seeing my gp twice a year I would put that off too. Nobody can fix this right now so why waste even 4hr of my precious energy a year;)

5atDsiney I forgot to mention I do best on a low carb diet both for losing weight(when I can) and for feeling good. My big obstical is breakfast not many low carb quick breakfasts (anytype of bread is out even with a protine) and in the am rush with kids its too much for me to cook ontop of everything else so I usually fall off the wagon at some point. Plus while I like eggs having them every am is a bit much. We got a egg cooker which boils and poaches in a couple on minutes with little clean up. I would make smoothies but that would wake up my youngest an hour early and I dont want that!lol So diet is a bit of a challenge for me. I dont eat many calories but weight wise I am extreamly sensitive to carbs. sprout breads seems to be a bit better of a choice but expensive.

Well catch up with you all some more next week. Really trying to at least be here Mondays and Fridays but if dis shows up on my phone like it is supposed to and I see something that looks urgent I will be back asap. I know in the past I have had a few questions answered here in hours when I really needed some support fast so I always feel bad when I miss something.

Sending pain free vibes:goodvibesand pixie dust to all:goodvibes
 
Thanks for the reply Bonnie! Ok this makes sense now. I am in my early 40's and just over the last few years am I seeing alot of fibro issues and digestive issues around ovulation and periods. GI Doctors sometimes don't listen and want to downplay hormone issues. My rheumy doctor listens and agrees with me. I have an appt in Feb for female doctor and will be discussing with them also.
Thanks for letting me know I am not the only one!:thumbsup2
 
ddenly
Thanks for the reply Bonnie! Ok this makes sense now. I am in my early 40's and just over the last few years am I seeing alot of fibro issues and digestive issues around ovulation and periods. GI Doctors sometimes don't listen and want to downplay hormone issues. My rheumy doctor listens and agrees with me. I have an appt in Feb for female doctor and will be discussing with them also.
Thanks for letting me know I am not the only one!:thumbsup2

I forgot to mention my GI track slows down week 3 comes to grinding hault week four then suddenly starts up again like nothing happened...That was the least offenseive way I could express this TMI moment ;)
 

Keeping my resolution to drop in Mondays at the very least. having a decent day. Got my hair done so feel more human which is always good.

btw another fibro pms symptom is acne at age 46!:mad: I have found a very good solution. Called the Tanda Zap it uses blue light to kill bacteria under skin. If you pay attention to a places that feel like they might break out then uses it a couple times a day on that spot the breakout will never show and if it starts to show before you treat I have had break outs clear in 24-48 hrs with little showing. I sometimes get sores from my bra and if its a closed sore it works on it too! Its expensive $35 but I have had mine about 6 months just changing the batteries and its still going strong. Supposed to work for 1000 uses if I remember correctly.

how are all of you after the weekend?

sending pain free vibes:goodvibesand pixie dust to all pixiedust:
 
Keeping my resolution to drop in Mondays at the very least. having a decent day. Got my hair done so feel more human which is always good.

btw another fibro pms symptom is acne at age 46!:mad: I have found a very good solution. Called the Tanda Zap it uses blue light to kill bacteria under skin. If you pay attention to a places that feel like they might break out then uses it a couple times a day on that spot the breakout will never show and if it starts to show before you treat I have had break outs clear in 24-48 hrs with little showing. I sometimes get sores from my bra and if its a closed sore it works on it too! Its expensive $35 but I have had mine about 6 months just changing the batteries and its still going strong. Supposed to work for 1000 uses if I remember correctly.

how are all of you after the weekend?

sending pain free vibes:goodvibesand pixie dust to all pixiedust:
 
GRR sorry for dbl post. Hate it when my phone/computer act up during posting :(
 
Hi everyone!!!

Tigg, how is your son? I just saw the lyme post. Acne, yep I hear ya!

SeaSpray, that sounds like a tiring day. It made me tired reading it. I am happy it is physically comfortable, and OH so close!!

5 at disney, I really should try eliminating things. I always say I will, and DON"t :bitelip:.. I find it is most def worse at that time of the month, and the cold. It is SOOOO cold here, and that really plays a tough role for me.

I had a CTSCan today, and now play the waiting game.
Just booked a mini (VERY) holiday to Mexico. We are leaving Wed to Sunday. WE have gotten RECORD snowfalls, and downright nasty cold temps. I know it is winter, but this year I just am having a hard time. My husband works at the airport, and basically slept there through the holidays, so he is just plain old exhausted, and he definitely need this.

I think of you all often :hug::hug::hug::hug:
Welcome to all :):):)
 
Hi everyone!!!

Tigg, how is your son? I just saw the lyme post. Acne, yep I hear ya!

SeaSpray, that sounds like a tiring day. It made me tired reading it. I am happy it is physically comfortable, and OH so close!!

5 at disney, I really should try eliminating things. I always say I will, and DON"t :bitelip:.. I find it is most def worse at that time of the month, and the cold. It is SOOOO cold here, and that really plays a tough role for me.

I had a CTSCan today, and now play the waiting game.
Just booked a mini (VERY) holiday to Mexico. We are leaving Wed to Sunday. WE have gotten RECORD snowfalls, and downright nasty cold temps. I know it is winter, but this year I just am having a hard time. My husband works at the airport, and basically slept there through the holidays, so he is just plain old exhausted, and he definitely need this.

I think of you all often :hug::hug::hug::hug:
Welcome to all :):):)


Hope you have a great trip!

5@dis. One other little secret of perimenopause hormones fluctuations is that 25% of all unexpected visits from the stork come after 40! This despite many of us have been told
That cant happen or at the very least we think we know how to keep those birds at bay:rotfl2:
 
Hi, I am a regular browser on the disboard.(mostly reading) I have been going through health issues for the last 5 years. I have been diagnosed with atypical migraine, nocturnal epilepsy and yesterday I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia.

Right now am having a hard time wrapping my head around it in general because I do not know much about it. I only know what some peoples thoughts of it are. I came home and started reading about it was telling my husband. We call our oldest in to tell her, (at this point I am waiting to tell the other two ) and when she asked what is that. My husband said in my opinion unkind things. I am not hear to bash him. So I will not put them here.

So right now I feel confused, unsupported, and scared. I called my mom she did tell me that my grandma(passed away) and aunt had / have it. I knew my dad has it (its his mom and sister).

I just thought what better place to find people to understand and give helpful words then here. And when I came to the disAbilities section this was the first one to come up:)
 
So now, in the New Year not only do I have fibro, I have been recently diagnosed with early stage breast cancer. I'm starting to get a bit discouraged. Not by the adhd son, not by the bad spine and sore shoulders, not with the daughter with autism. But this, this this is brining me to my knees. How much more I can handle remains to bee seen. All I do is sleep. Any advice?
 
Hi everyone :wave2:

:welcome: lilpig and carrie6466. Please come here to vent, get support, ask questions, etc. I'm sorry to hear of all of the health problems you have. It seems that fibromyalgia is always made worse when there are other health issues going on. Also, stress is one of the worst triggers for me, and I've read that it's a big trigger for most people.

I wish that I had advice for the sleeping all the time problem; that is my worst symptom right now. Because I also have rheumatoid arthritis, I'm used to being in pain, but the constant fatigue and need to sleep all the time, just gets to me. I feel that I'm wasting time, and my life away, with all of this sleep. And it's not as if I feel any better when I wake up.

Fibromyalgia is one of those "hidden" diseases where you appear totally fine, and a lot of the time it's hard for people to understand how horrible we're feeling. Some people still think that it's not a real thing and that we are just lazy hypochondriacs. :sad2:

Even when we have family who recognise this as a real disease, it still can be difficult. My DH is great, but often times he thinks that if I just "fight" it, I can be up and about and full of energy and pain-free. I wish that were true!

I'm still spending my days like this (each 24 hour period): 25% at work, 60% sleeping, and 15% tv/laundry/cooking. I guess it could be worse, right? lol

Ladies, I've noticed an increase in symptoms in relation to my hormones, too. For years now I've thought that there MUST be a correlation, but nothing that I've read or heard has ever mentioned this. I think that WE probably know more than the doctors, at this point.

Well I have to go and decide what will get done in the next 3 hours before work. Will I take a shower, or start dinner, or fold laundry? All of these *should* be done, but I don't know if I'll do any of them before I leave for work. :guilty:

*hugs* to all of you. :grouphug:
 
Hi guys! finally got up from the stuper I have been in this week. I HAVE BEEN SOOOOO TIRED:laundy: Finally had the Dr appointment with my PC who kept pushing anxiety/depression last visit. Luckily he never put that in my chart and we had a long chat about how it never been an issue for me and how he is frustrated when he sees things like 48 days of migraine and cant help. It was a very good visit and for the most part I'm stable which is a bit of an oximoron for us isnt it? I might try anti convulsives for the migraines in June. Any luck with that here?

Hi, I am a regular browser on the disboard.(mostly reading) I have been going through health issues for the last 5 years. I have been diagnosed with atypical migraine, nocturnal epilepsy and yesterday I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia.
Right now am having a hard time wrapping my head around it in general because I do not know much about it. I only know what some peoples thoughts of it are. I came home and started reading about it was telling my husband. We call our oldest in to tell her, (at this point I am waiting to tell the other two ) and when she asked what is that. My husband said in my opinion unkind things. I am not hear to bash him. So I will not put them here.
So right now I feel confused, unsupported, and scared. I called my mom she did tell me that my grandma(passed away) and aunt had / have it. I knew my dad has it (its his mom and sister).

I just thought what better place to find people to understand and give helpful words then here. And when I came to the disAbilities section this was the first one to come up:)

Lilpig,

You are not alone! Most of have gone through this with family and/or Drs at some point. I began telling people when they asked what FMS is that they should think "MS" or lyme disease. I have had good luck with those descriptions. Have you been tested for lyme? If not this is definately something to consider if you live in North East. MS and Lupus should be ruled out too. I say this only because no one wants to go years with this diagnosis only to find out they have something that can be treated.

If you read through this thread you will see we all have had days where you cant imagine your body could do so many odd thisngs to you. Evryday is an adventure. Please check out past posts and ask as many questions as you want. You will find that the people here are the best. Very understanding and full of pixie dust.;). People with FM are like snowflakes no two are alike. I cant tolerate medications and cant work but have been able to get better with suppliments, meditation and alternative techniques. Sometimes I exersize sometimes not. Learning to deal with these diseases is realy about knowing your body and going with the flow. Our symptoms tend to floow the weather and the stress in our lives.

Please come here to vent. Most of us have no place to go with our bad days. Everyone here gets it. Since Tocherie started it this thread has not been judgemental or unkind and those things are just not tolerated here. So chat away and if you think something is TMI for the thread PM one of us. We can keep secrets around here;)


So now, in the New Year not only do I have fibro, I have been recently diagnosed with early stage breast cancer. I'm starting to get a bit discouraged. Not by the adhd son, not by the bad spine and sore shoulders, not with the daughter with autism. But this, this this is brining me to my knees. How much more I can handle remains to bee seen. All I do is sleep. Any advice?

Carrie

I'M SOOOO SORRY!:grouphug:

My advise is unusual for us here. CRY yes...give yourself permission to be really sad you have earned it. Then pick yourself up and make a plan. Sometimes when I get a list in frount of me I can think better. I remember when DH1 got the 2nd diagnosis of cancer and we knew it was bad just what a kick in the gut it was. Cancer is a blinding diagnosis. it take awhile to soak it all in. Please keep us updated. Rember that while this is a big challenge there is alot that can be done today but it will take time.

Hi everyone :wave2:

:welcome: lilpig and carrie6466. Please come here to vent, get support, ask questions, etc. I'm sorry to hear of all of the health problems you have. It seems that fibromyalgia is always made worse when there are other health issues going on. Also, stress is one of the worst triggers for me, and I've read that it's a big trigger for most people.

I wish that I had advice for the sleeping all the time problem; that is my worst symptom right now. Because I also have rheumatoid arthritis, I'm used to being in pain, but the constant fatigue and need to sleep all the time, just gets to me. I feel that I'm wasting time, and my life away, with all of this sleep. And it's not as if I feel any better when I wake up.

Fibromyalgia is one of those "hidden" diseases where you appear totally fine, and a lot of the time it's hard for people to understand how horrible we're feeling. Some people still think that it's not a real thing and that we are just lazy hypochondriacs. :sad2:

Even when we have family who recognise this as a real disease, it still can be difficult. My DH is great, but often times he thinks that if I just "fight" it, I can be up and about and full of energy and pain-free. I wish that were true!

I'm still spending my days like this (each 24 hour period): 25% at work, 60% sleeping, and 15% tv/laundry/cooking. I guess it could be worse, right? lol

Ladies, I've noticed an increase in symptoms in relation to my hormones, too. For years now I've thought that there MUST be a correlation, but nothing that I've read or heard has ever mentioned this. I think that WE probably know more than the doctors, at this point.

Well I have to go and decide what will get done in the next 3 hours before work. Will I take a shower, or start dinner, or fold laundry? All of these *should* be done, but I don't know if I'll do any of them before I leave for work. :guilty:

*hugs* to all of you. :grouphug:

Glad you found the energy to post! I cant imagine working. This week getting kids to school and then activities 6hrs later was a challenge.

Sending pain free vibes:goodvibes and pixie dust to allpixiedust:
 
Thank you so for the warm welcome :lovestruc

Carrie, I am so sorry. I can't imagine how difficult this is for you. :hug:

I am not good yet at the quoting yet sorry.

I have had multiple tests and a few mri's . I changed Doc's at one point because I thought I was being treated poorly. She has checked ( I believe ) for other causes.

I am on topamax and deseryl for the migraines, I am on keppra for the seizures and lyrica. I am also on flexeril as needed but I try not to take it.

I am so useless right now. I work and have three kids 17, 14, 10. When I come home all I want is to sleep or watch tv in "my spot" so at least im in the "awake"

Thanks for being here:wizard:
 
lilpig said:
Thank you so for the warm welcome :lovestruc

Carrie, I am so sorry. I can't imagine how difficult this is for you. :hug:

I am not good yet at the quoting yet sorry.

I have had multiple tests and a few mri's . I changed Doc's at one point because I thought I was being treated poorly. She has checked ( I believe ) for other causes.

I am on topamax and deseryl for the migraines, I am on keppra for the seizures and lyrica. I am also on flexeril as needed but I try not to take it.

I am so useless right now. I work and have three kids 17, 14, 10. When I come home all I want is to sleep or watch tv in "my spot" so at least im in the "awake"

Thanks for being here:wizard:

lilpig

Don't worry about you mistakes here. I do my best to fix mistakes in preview but don't go back to fix them here once I post. It takes too much time and energy to do that and everyone here gets it and just laughs it off. I've actually got flamed on other threads for mistakes...like they don't have anything better to do.

Do you have seizures or just use the drugs for migraines? Any side effects?

Well here I am trying to keep my resolution. on my phone so no creative smilies :(. Got kids/hubby off to school now off to bed. Last few weeks I've been sooooo tired. Up an hr then in bed for 40min then up 40 min back to bed and sleeping in coma type sleep for 3-4hrs. :( Get them all off but not much else. I can fight off migraines and pain but In 18 yrs never figured out how to outsmart fatigue. I fall asleep sitting up. Lilpig, a few years back I was at a girl scout camp at local museum. I was sitting on top of a table and the next thing I knew I was asleep sitting up with nothing supporting my back! Yep just sleeping in middle of table LOL. So you are not alone in extreme fatigue.

Hope everyone had good weekend.

Sending pain free vibes and pixie dust to all!
 
Hi! I'm Ashley! I'm 25 and I was diagnosed with fibro by my rheumatologist last Friday. I was diagnosed with Lupus almost a year ago. She has given me Flexaril to take before going to bed. Does anyone have any experience with this?

I'm glad I found this thread!
 
ashmarie06 said:
Hi! I'm Ashley! I'm 25 and I was diagnosed with fibro by my rheumatologist last Friday. I was diagnosed with Lupus almost a year ago. She has given me Flexaril to take before going to bed. Does anyone have any experience with this?

I'm glad I found this thread!

Hi Ashley: WELCOME!

I'm a little confused by diagnosis. Over the years Lupus was a rule out diagnosis because many of it symptoms were similar and by definition you would have fibro symptoms. where fibro is having symptoms without other reason like ms/lupus/lyme. Maybe the drs are now diagnosing FM simply by symptoms. I know my DH's rheumy diagnosed him with lyme induced fm maybe more and more Drs are doing this. Either way crazy symptoms are the same.

As far as Flexeril I have been on it for years. It really knocks me out so I usually cut it in half and make sure DH is able to get up with kids etc. Its my emergency muscle relaxer. I usually take ativan for muscle pain as it is less exhasting and a shorter term effect. which of course means pain comes back faster too :(. My advice is take it slow on flexeril til you know how it effects you. If you feel foggy next day even if 24 hrs after taking pay attention and be sure its Lupus/FM not side effect of Flexeril.

Hope this helps!
 
Sorry for the confusion! I was diagnosed with lupus last year, that is believed to have stemmed from a bad bad case of mono in 2006. I have been seeing a rheumy since then. Last Friday I went in because I'm flaring, and after doing some exams she believes that I also have the fm. This came as a total shock to me, but it does seem to make sense with my symptoms.

I feel like I have lost control of my body the last year. Even I don't know what is going on with it. :/


Thanks for the info about the flexiril. She gave it to me because I'm constantly exhausted. I could fall asleep and sleep 20 hours and go right back to sleep. She thinks that this is because I never get into a deep sleep, and that this could be causing more joint pain due to my muscles and joints not recovering at night? Who knows. I need to get my prescription filled tonight, maybe I will just stick with a 1/2 of one.
 
ashmarie06 said:
Sorry for the confusion! I was diagnosed with lupus last year, that is believed to have stemmed from a bad bad case of mono in 2006. I have been seeing a rheumy since then. Last Friday I went in because I'm flaring, and after doing some exams she believes that I also have the fm. This came as a total shock to me, but it does seem to make sense with my symptoms.

I feel like I have lost control of my body the last year. Even I don't know what is going on with it. :/

Thanks for the info about the flexiril. She gave it to me because I'm constantly exhausted. I could fall asleep and sleep 20 hours and go right back to sleep. She thinks that this is because I never get into a deep sleep, and that this could be causing more joint pain due to my muscles and joints not recovering at night? Who knows. I need to get my prescription filled tonight, maybe I will just stick with a 1/2 of one.

Ashley,

I was not confused by your statement but by the Drs assessment. I think the Drs have just changed how they are diagnosing Fm. This happens in the med and psych field both of which I worked in before getting sick.

As far as the flexeril helping with fatigue I have never known anyone that used it for that UNLESS exhaustion was due to severe muscle spasms causing sleep loss. Extreme sleepiness is one of those incredible unexplainable symptoms of FM. I actually am diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue and FM. The first several years I averaged 16-20hrs of sleep a day! Now I have bouts where that happens but not many. The key for me was stopping the meds (I tried more than 20) and going to supplements. Flax oil for fatigue (they thought I was crazy 15 yrs ago now most Drs prescribe it for something) vitamin D, B12 and several other things. If you havent had your D levels checked you should many of us are D deficient. I have also used melatonin to help when my sleep is off. sometimes this helps too. I hear that its in dark cherry juice so you can try that before bedtime or you can take the supplement. Whatever meds/suppliments you take be careful and take small doses and go up slowly. Many of us here are sensitive to the craziest of things. I took flaxseed oil 2x a day for 6 months before i noticed a difference.

the biggest thing that help my energy is managing my time/stress. I explain it to my kids like this. Everyday I wake up with so many energy dollars. Sometimes 10 sometimes 2 :(. Every time I do even the smallest of things like picking up junk off the floor I use dollars so If I waste them on fighting then I cant watch a movie later that night. Everything you do, talking on phone, chores, etc has a price. The trick with FM is learning to assess upon waking how many dollars you have and pacing how you spend them. Do less than you think you can or you will inevitably do too much and have less the next day. I cannot fight the fatigue...it is a sure fire way to get worse. It took me two years to even come close to getting the fatigue thing down. Its hard not to do what you want when you want but with fatigue its vital. I kept a journal the first few years so I could assess my meds, supplements and symptoms because I had all the chronic fatigue symptoms and FM symptoms at once. I constantly had heart attack and stroke like symptoms, was in er for evals off all types. My husband could not touch me in any way not a hug or handholding and I left my home only 5 times in a year. All this at 27! My body was seriously out of control. When I stopped fighting, stopped looking for a medical fix, began meditation, visualization, relaxation techniques etc I did much better. I went into remission while pregnant and all the things I learned helped me keep some assemblance of a life ever since. Its a very tricky balance but I drive again, get my kids to school and activities and sometime get the chores done LOL. I miss working terribly but for me I must maintain control of the balance and demands of a job would put me back in bed :( Everyone one here has a different experience with meds etc but if you type in fatigue in the search of this thread it is one of the universal things we have trouble managing.

Well I think I will shut up now! LOL you can now see why I have that saying near my user name ;)
 
Hello ashmarie06! I am also on Flexeril I find that I only take it when I have a lot of "spine"and my ticking seems out of control. ( I have muscle spasm in my legs and face...well almost every where but they are the worst spots)

I do have migraines but ..most of the time I do not have pain I have other symptoms like flashing lights, vision issues, speech problems and confusion. I do get pain I can't really explain it.

My confusion though varies, its funny but not.. :lmao: I have "normal" confusion now that I just have come to terms with. People say I have a look on my face that says "HUH?!" I just say its my thinking face. Then I have my migraine confusion and that looks more like y I hide from the world when I am like that. (Thankfully it doesnt happen that much.) Then have the I don't know what I am doing..how to use a key or putting things away.

I am on keppra for nocturnal seizures (sleep ones) and it does have the bonus of helping with migraines.

It is awesome to have people to talk to. I know I should take supplements but I dont know what lol.

Do you guys have food and other item sensitivities? I do! It seems like sometimes I know and then POOF!!!! something bothers me. I mostly have problems with food and smells. This "round" I am on right now (do you go between worse and betterish? I heard flare mentioned) I should have known was coming because I kept having issues with food.

Okay sorry to talk your ears off...Talk to you soon!!! Did I mention I am grateful!:cool1:
 












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